Zoner ripping me off

[ed325i]

what shall I do ?
Look here >> http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 893#643893

[jon_pure_british]

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[ed325i]

It in the parts for sale under seller surj.

[munky30]

He's not ripping you off. Starting this topic isnt going to make him any more inclined to fill out the form now is it?!

Just be reasonable and ask him to fill out the form, and when he gets the settlement, send you the cheque. Its not his fault, its royal mails.

Accusing him of ripping you off isnt going to help!

[ed325i]

Well if he dont send my money back he is ripping me off. Its not royal mails fault or my fault if he cant tape up a box. He said hes not going to send payment

[munky30]

you said a form needed to be filled out. He said go for it. You said it needs to be him that fills it out... he hasnt replied yet.

How do you know he wont make the claim now he realises it needs to be him that does it?

[munky30]

Why should he send you the money before he has been reimbursed for the loss? He sent the part, royal mail lost it. Why should he put himself out of pocket because of an error they have made. If he is a reasonable person (which if it was me, and you were saying all this, I personally wouldnt be) then he will fill out the claim, and once he has the money returned to him from the royal mail, he will send you the cheque. You cant just demand it back now.

If the tape has 'come off' it is more likely to be some thieving scumbag in a mail depot somewhere thats to blame. Hence royal mail having a claim procedure.

[ed325i]

FUCK THIS PLACE

[fuzzy]

Why should he send you the money before he has been reimbursed for the loss? He sent the part, royal mail lost it. Why should he put himself out of pocket because of an error they have made. If he is a reasonable person (which if it was me, and you were saying all this, I personally wouldnt be) then he will fill out the claim, and once he has the money returned to him from the royal mail, he will send you the cheque. You cant just demand it back now.

If the tape has 'come off' it is more likely to be some thieving scumbag in a mail depot somewhere thats to blame. Hence royal mail having a claim procedure.

i dont know the story but this sounds reasonable to me. and your bang on about the tape 'coming off'.

[munky30]

**** this place

Why? Because someone has offered you sensible advice on what to do in the situation?

Yeah f*cking hell, what a c*nt I am.

Sometimes sh*t happens. You'll have to wait a bit until he gets the money back, such is life. Shouting and ranting about it and throwing accusations around wont get you anywhere.

[ed325i]

Why should he send you the money before he has been reimbursed for the loss? He sent the part, royal mail lost it. Why should he put himself out of pocket because of an error they have made. If he is a reasonable person (which if it was me, and you were saying all this, I personally wouldnt be) then he will fill out the claim, and once he has the money returned to him from the royal mail, he will send you the cheque. You cant just demand it back now.

If the tape has 'come off' it is more likely to be some thieving scumbag in a mail depot somewhere thats to blame. Hence royal mail having a claim procedure.

This will be ok if he does it but is saying he wont.

[munky30]

he hasnt said anything yet!! Or are you talking via pm?

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Where does postal insurance step in here. Surely the postal receipt will show post code and weight?

[munky30]

from what I can see you're still asking him to pay you the money back and then make the claim... that, imho is never going to happen. If you ask him to make the claim and then send you the money, its a lot more likely to happen!

Sorry, I'm not trying to be a c**t but you cant just demand money back when its no fault of his. Its a sh*t situation but you will just have to wait until he makes the claim. Unless he is a complete prick, he will make the claim and send you the money. All this isnt helping the situation though, if it was me I would be asking nicely and reasonably for him to make the claim, not ranting at him and accusing him of things.

[ed325i]

I am not having ago at any body on this tread, I have got 3 kids and money is very tight and this dont help. The car is off the road until this is sorted out.
If the money is sent back to me he will not be out of pocket as he will get the money back from royal mail I cant I have tryed.

[Theo]

Postal insurance is only valid for items up to £32 I think...

[munky30]

Where does postal insurance step in here. Surely the postal receipt will show post code and weight?

It will be covered, and the claim will go through, He is right, the sender has to make the claim not the recipient. But it will be covered. (I used to work for the RM and know people that work in the department that does claims, I know what I'm talking about lol)

[ed325i]

I have had no contact via pm

[munky30]

Postal insurance is only valid for items up to £32 I think...

thats for standard first class. I would imagine this has been sent via parcelforce so will be covered up to £150.

[munky30]

I am not having ago at any body on this tread, I have got 3 kids and money is very tight and this dont help. The car is off the road until this is sorted out.
If the money is sent back to me he will not be out of pocket as he will get the money back from royal mail I cant I have tryed.

I feel for you mate I really do, its a sh*tty situation. I have kids, and a car thats ioff the road costing me a fortune... but life likes to kick you in the balls every now and then. Getting angry about it very rarely helps.

Just ask him to make the claim then send you the money. You will have to wait a bit unfortunately but thats just the way it works. Thats the best advice i can give.

[CHRISP]

It has to be sent special Delivery to be signed for on delivery too be insured .

[datonyb]

guys guys

i sell a lot of things on ebay

a lot of things !
sometimes posting 30 items a week

now heres the killer

the idiotic excuse i call royal mail and parcelfArce

loose things from me left right and centre

in the last month no less than two laptops have been lost!

and im not kidding mate

advise wise

i suggest calm down

and ask for a fone number so you guys acn talk and get it sorted

im sure it will be easier than talking over the forum

as text can be taken wrong

voice calls are easier to go smoothly

[E30Mark]

This has only happened in the last few hours! give the bloke a chance.

If you go in on the offensive, then it's only human nature to attack back, seriously tackle this situation calmly and please don't blame the e30zone for these situations.

[ed325i]

I have sent him a PM asking for his number and I have given him mine.

[ed325i]

please don't blame the e30zone for these situations

I was just wanting help from the zone to sort it out.

[m3ben05]

The guys made like 50 posts, do you seriously think you'l be seeing that 50 odd quid again!

Think yourself lucky you didnt loose much money

[fuzzy]

id say give the guy a chance to sort it first. we were all newbies once.

[munky30]

It has to be sent special Delivery to be signed for on delivery too be insured .

Not so, all first class mail is covered up to £32.

hence why its good to know people in the RM claims department... I've lost count how many 'dvd's' I've lost and claimed for

special delivery is covered up to £150 iirc... I've only ever lost one 'psp' LOL

[datonyb]

It has to be sent special Delivery to be signed for on delivery too be insured .

Not so, all first class mail is covered up to £32.

hence why its good to know people in the RM claims department... I've lost count how many 'dvd's' I've lost and claimed for

special delivery is covered up to £150 iirc... I've only ever lost one 'psp' LOL

500

[munky30]

dammit... I should have said it was a box of 3 psp's!

[ed325i]

money could be made on this clutch I payed £60 but he could claim it is worth £160.

[Steve-E30]

Down to the seller to claim off the post office as he has proof of posting , Had to do it a few times on ebay , Royal mail suck big balls btw
Can i also ask how much it cost to post a clutch as proof it was in there as its bizarre someone would nick it
You 2 need to chat off the forum and sort this as flaming people will get you nowhere mate and everyone will join in

[CHRISP]

It has to be sent special Delivery to be signed for on delivery too be insured .

Not so, all first class mail is covered up to £32.

hence why its good to know people in the RM claims department... I've lost count how many 'dvd's' I've lost and claimed for

special delivery is covered up to £150 iirc... I've only ever lost one 'psp' LOL

Hi Simian i think the sum was £60 so that would if to be s/delivery wouldnt you say?

[datonyb]

money could be made on this clutch I payed £60 but he could claim it is worth £160.

he could indeed

especially if you faxed a statement that the box came open and only had a bearing

you see now why
it would probably be better to chat to each other on the fone

its a dam site easier than trying to talk in text form
for both of you two

i hope you guys both sort this out and end up okay

[munky30]

well, I havent looked into it for a while... apparently s/delivery is up to 500!

If it was just sent first class then yeah he's not going to get the whole amount back.

Maybe the £150 is recorded delivery....

But yes... you have a point.. again, I really need to start reading posts before I reply to them!