Help!! Which Engine to transplant (Now a Poll!!)

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Which do I go for??

E36 M3 Engine?
7
23%
E34 M5 Engine?
4
13%
Go over to the "DARK" side and let Ant work his magic with turbo'd M20?
14
45%
Make her a nice little 2.7?
3
10%
Make her a nice little 2.7?
3
10%
 
Total votes: 31
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Post Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:18 pm

Hi Lads,

I'm collecting my new 325 cab on Saturday and i'm looking at doing an engine swap in her over the next few weeks.

I've been asking Ant for some advice but I just want to get some varying opinions on what you think would be best, and this is certainly the place for that!!! :D

I'm looking at bringing the HP up to about 230 - 250 or more if available at a reasonable price and I want to know the best way of going about this.

I'd love to put an M5 engine in ( S38B38??) but the more realistic option is to put in an E36 M3 engine in instead.

I'd prefer to keep it naturally aspirated but may opt to turbo it so let me know your suggestions

Thanks,
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Post Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:27 pm

2.7/2.8 , hot cam,TB's Aftermarket ECU and some Tb's :twisted:

Evo lump is the obvious swop.

what about non-bmw engines ? rice swop is an option.

Choices choices, should be a good thread :thumb:
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Post Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:32 pm

supra turbo winkeye
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Post Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:35 pm

No mate it's gotta be a BMW lump!

There's just something about seeing the "M POWER" under the bonnet that makes my wotsits tingle!! winkeye :twisted:
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Post Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:57 pm

Good luck with whatever you choose stevo_sideways. There's a few choices that others have already done. It is hard to tell - from the different engines, approaches to installation, tools and skill involved and required - what the best choice would be. I suppose the 'what you fancy doing' factor is a good guide to making the choice. This is what others have done and finally felt vindicated by in the end.

I know you said you'd prefer to keep it naturally aspirated... but... wouldn't have considered a turbo myself until I drove a few of Ant's turbo conversions. I'd have one. M20 turbo seems so much beefier than other turbo cars - which are often 4 pots. It drives like a big engine. And has lots of torque.

If a turbo is definitely not on the list then the E36 M3 engine would be a cool choice. A few others have obviously done it but it looks tricky and can takes ages to source all the right bits and do all the little mods required.

Another obvious choice 328i E36 M52 2.8 engine. Easier to get hold of, cheaper than the M3 and would deliver the bhp you mention especially with mods.

Considered keeping the existing engine? I love the M20 engine and, although the high top BHP figures potential of engine swaps are attractive, it is rarely possible to use much of that peak power on the road (although you do have a lot of open road over there in Ireland which would be silly of me to ignore). A high torque set up is often more useable. This would be great for the Green Hills of Ireland. I'd go with Ant's suggestion of keeping the. M20 and 2.7/2.8 conversion, hot cam,TB's Aftermarket ECU and also maybe a six branch manifold. This engine set up delivers loads of torque and would be a nippy little beast.

Looking forward to photos of what you do over the next few weeks then winkeye
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Post Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:17 am

Cheers for the input mate,

I'm not planning on doing this myself as unfortunately as I don't have the time with work or for that matter the ability which is probably more of a problem!! :D

I was thinking of bringin it over to your side of the pond and Ant seems like a good choice.

I've been thinking more about this tonight and it's either gonna be M Powered from an E36 or E34 or I'll follow Ants weapon of choice and rebuild and turbo the M20.

Still open to other ideas though!!
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Post Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:48 pm

Bump'd due to late night post
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Post Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:47 pm

I to dont know what engine to go for :?
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Post Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:41 pm

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Post Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:57 pm

You're right Toby so i've decided to put it to a poll!! winkeye winkeye
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Post Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:02 pm

2.7 turbo :twisted:
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Post Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:06 pm

Turbo for the simple fact that when you get bored turn up the boost.

But the S38 would be a nice conversion
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Post Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:39 am

I voted 2.7 as it is a complete engine rebuild, everything that can wear is replaced and it is a very usable car. It also makes good use of the M20.

I saw oz's 2.7 build that Ant did and it was a beasty.

The combination of 2.7 and turbo (which I saw an almost finished version of yesterday at Ant's) is worth considering.

There is also the 2.8 conversion for the M20. It has been said by someone who completed this that it's a nicer conversion to do than the 2.7. Why not let your E30 join that rare club and get the high capacity M20?
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Post Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:17 pm

I'll vote for the E36 M3 engine as it's the one I'm doing so is obviously the only choice!

Have you thought about the possibility of a Jap engine also?

I toyed with the idea of using either a Nissan SR20DET (200sx) engine or even a Ford Duratec 2.3 tuned to around M3 power (easy peasy). I beleive there are one or two supra engine conversions on here which is a nice engine. Jap turbo engines are pretty good as they normally have the exhaust on the other side (original cars are also RHD unlike original BMW cars) and you only have to make a downpipe rather than a manifold.

I like the idea of a 'different' engine swap. You'd have to get a manifold/downpipe, engine mounts, gearbox mounts and a prop asorted out though. Just an idea.

Jai

[edit] Doh! Just noticed you want a BMW engine... In that case the M52 is a great swap for the cash but if you're feeling flush, go for the E36 3.0 M3 engine thats in the for sale section. I love them (though I have a 3.2 cos it turned up at the time)
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