Some 335i questions

[gareth]

why wilwood over WMS? WMS kit sales pass a commision onto the E30zone...

I am not saying wilwood over WMS but I would go for the wilwoods simply because they are a proven set up and used all over the world.

It may be a good idea if WMS put there kits up against other kits in a test and it was covered in a mag then people could see how good they are.

I may need uprated brakes soon and will be thinking about the WMS kit if they fit under my mims.

the WMS stuff is being fast proven by a lot of cars and having seen a lot of the UK wilwood kits (put together by rally design, the sole UK importer of wilwood) i can say i'd be far happier with WMS!!! the wilwood calipers are fine (comparable quality as the WMS ones) but some of the rally design bracketry designs etc have shocked me!!!

incidentally, the wilwoods have a vulnerable external fluid crossover pipe but the current 280mm E30 kit uses a caliper with internal fluid passages.

[DRIFTBOY]

my manifold was hitting the steering linkage

See lots of room. there is more then it looks.

Mine looks a bit like that - I thought it would be fine.

It's when you turn left hard that the trouble starts!

I'm thinking of going for the WMS brake kit too.
Every time I've used Rally Designs they have cocked up and messed me about. I refuse to use them now!

Theo -
I thought you might have missed the end of the first page!
Just let me know when you want to have a butchers and I'll make sure I'm about and the car isn't in bits everywhere!

[gareth]

same here theo though at present mine is technically off the road but can be moved up and down the drive if required not more than a bare minimum though as the drive is very short!

my steering clearance looks about the same. i only get rubbing if i corner very hard to the left while hitting a bump or braking. it's generally fine

[Theo]

I suppose the chances of finding a 6 branch that will fit in the engine bay are slim, other than the £800+ BTB one?
Just been having a read about the WMS kit, sounds very good, will definately be interested in a kit.

[DRIFTBOY]

I've thought about 6-branch manifolds too.
I'm not paying £800+ for one though!

I've thought about trying to make one but I fear I'll be there for a month and probably make a right mess of it!

[gareth]

make on like tobys? only one on downpipe then!

[Theo]

Fabricating a manifold is way beyond my capabilities, will have to look into the matter of tubular manifolds more..

Going off at a bit of a tangent here, but theres a dBilas 280 degree cam on ebay.de for 319euros brand new, sounds like a good price? This project may get expensive!

http://cgi.ebay.de/DBilas-Nockenwelle-2 ... dZViewItem

[DRIFTBOY]

theres a dBilas 280 degree cam on ebay.de for 319euros brand new, sounds like a good price? This project may get expensive!

http://cgi.ebay.de/DBilas-Nockenwelle-2 ... dZViewItem

Never heard of them, sounds good though!
It's probably recommended that you also use new valve springs and retainers.
I can recommend a good bloke who does head work on these engines too!
Then you'd be as well to get a zone chip in the ecu too.

And my project got VERY expensive!
And it's still getting expensiver as I upgrade / replace things!

[DRIFTBOY]

make on like tobys? only one on downpipe then!

Only if I ever do take the turbo plunge!

I think constructing a 6-branch is probably out of my range of ability too!

[gareth]

it wouldn't be so bad if there was some space to play with!

[jonb]

theo

what position you going for? the furthest back yes?

it all depends on the position but the steering coupling always runs close to the manifold flange. i did 2 conversions a couple of years back, i had to grind some metal off the edge of the flange which is in gareths picture.

the e30 has the provisions for the e28 rad(as if it was supposed to go in there), you can buy the e28 rad fixings from the dealer. i used an e28 535i rad. one of the platforms for the e30 rad had to be grinded off, because the 28 rad is so wide.

[SPADGE]

I had to grind a little off one of my exhaust manifold flanges as well but only about 5mm.

[DRIFTBOY]

it all depends on the position but the steering coupling always runs close to the manifold flange. i did 2 conversions a couple of years back, i had to grind some metal off the edge of the flange which is in gareths picture.

I'm using position 3 (furthest back) and I ground down my manifold flange, but I still can't go round left hand corners as fast as I want to!

[Theo]

Hi Jon,

Think the engine mounts are position 3, but Ed has made them so the engine sits slightly further towards the nearside to give extra clearance for the steering coupling. Also trying to finmd some poly engine mounts, but not found anything yet.

You'll be glad to hear the 3.5 is going in a chrome turd...

EDIT - just realised I can use M20 poly mounts, was searching for M30 specic ones.

[Andy335Touring]

Also trying to finmd some poly engine mounts, but not found anything yet.

I think you will struggle to find some in this country, have a look around here

http://www.bmw2002.com/

[gareth]

i've hear that ireland engineering in the states do poly engine mounts... http://www.bmw2002.com/

[Andy335Touring]

Also trying to finmd some poly engine mounts, but not found anything yet.

I think you will struggle to find some in this country, have a look around here

http://www.bmw2002.com/

Gareth ^^^^^^

[gareth]

you swine, i was searching for that link while you were bust beating me to it!!!

theo, i may be up for sharing postage if you order some of those

[Theo]

Yeah just looking now, $90 seems very fair, was just looking at the spooxmotorsport solid mounts and they are £90 for a pair... Would definately be interested in sharing post with you....

Ireland Engineering seem to do some interesting bits for the E30, thanks for the link....both of you!

[gareth]

have you seen the M20 3.1 stoker kits?

[SPADGE]

I would also be interested in some of those mounts but can't see a price for shipping on there?

[Theo]

Yeah, bit tasty, but only just noticed the M30 engine upgrades...stage 2 turbo

They also do a 284 cam (regrind) for only $190 dollars, may have to send an email to find out about postage.

[DRIFTBOY]

theo, i may be up for sharing postage if you order some of those

Me too!

[Gunni]

I´m trying to get powerflex to make us bushings from poly,
I´ll report back when I get a reply

[Theo]

I have emailed Ireland engineering with regard to postage on a pair of mounts, and also a price should a greater number be purchased. I also asked about camshaft shipping costs.

Random question, but - does the M30 not have an oil cooler, or a provision for one?

[DRIFTBOY]

- does the M30 not have an oil cooler, or a provision for one?

I have a feeling it was an option / upgrade on E34 but not too sure.

I think E28 M535i has an oil filter housing with fittings to attach an oil cooler. Not sure if a 325i one can be plumbed into it easily, probably needs some pipes making up. ?

[Theo]

I'll have a look into that, as I have spare 325i oil coolers lying about.

[Theo]

The following links shows there was an oil cooler available, I think some simple modifications of the pipe work would make it easy enough to connect up, but the size of the e28 rad will probably be a problem.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=17&fg=05

[Gunni]

I´m trying to get powerflex to make us bushings from poly,
I´ll report back when I get a reply

I´m making good progress with powerflex,
I´ll update more when something happens,
I´m trying to get them to put them up into regular production

[Andyboy]

Why not elongate the engine mount holes in the crossmember 10mm so the engine sits away from the coupling? 10mm won't make a toss of difference to the way the engine sits in (it won't be noticeable looking at it) but wil ensure the manifold doesn't touch the coupling. I think E28 M5 mounts are also offset and move the engine across by 10mm.

[Theo]

I think this is exactly what Ed has done with the engine mounts Andy, and as I'm using a mk1 gti brake servo there shouldn't be any problems with clearance on the inlet manifold.

Gunni, I'l' be interested to hear any news on powerflex, hopefully I can get a price for shipping from Ireland engineering on their poly mounts.

[Gunni]

I just sent them the required specs for M20 mounts, wich also work for M30 engines,

I´m waiting for a answer,

[DRIFTBOY]

Why not elongate the engine mount holes in the crossmember 10mm so the engine sits away from the coupling? 10mm won't make a toss of difference to the way the engine sits in (it won't be noticeable looking at it) but wil ensure the manifold doesn't touch the coupling. I think E28 M5 mounts are also offset and move the engine across by 10mm.

Could be worth a try but on the other side it gets very tight with heater hoses and the brake servo!

[ed325i]

For the oil cooler a e30 m3 one has the pipes in the right place.
I had the ireland engineering poly mounts on it with poly gearbox mounts the only thing with them is it sounds like the engine is sitting next to you.
If you go for the poly mounts that engine is not going to move.

[Andy335Touring]

For the oil cooler a e30 m3 one has the pipes in the right place.

The pipes might still be a problem using the E34/2 M30 oil filter housing as the pipes fasten on to a different area of the housing and they use different fixings.

e34's only got oil coolers from 90/91 onwards and may have been only been fitted to the Sport ???

I think the best set up might be to use E34 oil filter housing/pipes/oil rad, then all you've got to worry about is making some brackets up to hold the rad.

The other alternative is to have some pipes made up to suit which ever oil filter housing/oil rad you want to use ?

M3





E34 M30



M3 rad and pipes with an E28 M30 housing looks promising ????