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Post Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:42 pm

Hi boys what do you reckon to this m20 manifold.

Good price, compact design and allows extennal wastegate.

http://www.cartech.net/exhaustparts.htm

is it left hand drive only?
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Post Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:11 pm

Cant really say anything about the design, but it looks like it should work. At 260GBP + shipping (and any other customs costs :evil: ) it doesnt seem too expensive.

Its only really the downpipe thats a problem for RHD cars, so assuming it places the turbo on top and at the front of the engine it should fit a RHD car.
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Post Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:13 pm

I think it should be ok, was trying to look at the bolt pattern to see if the turbo was placed on top?

have sent them an email, regarding 'all in' cost.
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Post Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:41 pm

LHD i reakon its the same as TCD manifold looking at pics, turbo is bottom mount at cylinder 6 right ontop of your steering shaft
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Post Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:04 pm

WillG wrote:turbo is bottom mount at cylinder 6 right ontop of your steering shaft
8O Why would anyone want a turbo mounted down there???
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Post Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:04 am

yeah i know its a bad idea but look at turbocharging dynamics kit and that is the same manifold can only fit small turbos on LHD cars so its no good. Get a ITG manifold
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Post Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:48 pm

How much tax do you have to pay on top of shipping for the ITG manifold?
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:58 pm

oldroydsr4 wrote:I think it should be ok, was trying to look at the bolt pattern to see if the turbo was placed on top?

have sent them an email, regarding 'all in' cost.
Did these guys get back to you? I mailed them too regarding the M30 manifold and havnt heard back. I was thinking about phoning them.
What about flipping the manifold round so that the turbo is at the front and on top. Do think it would be low enough?
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:36 pm

You have to spend a million years* realigning the ports when you flip the manifolds as BMW decided not to space the studs symetrically for some reason :(

(* time claim possibly an exaggeration)
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www.air-in.co.uk free M20 exhaust and inlet flange
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:05 pm

Turbo-Brown wrote:You have to spend a million years* realigning the ports when you flip the manifolds as BMW decided not to space the studs symetrically for some reason :(

(* time claim possibly an exaggeration)
Now I was looking at their M50/S50 manifold....
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Im guessing that again the turbo would be bottom mounted back by cyl 6, but because of the exhaust stud spacing it should flip easy enough :D winkeye
They reckon it "will flow well up to rates equivalent to 600+ bhp", but would a log desgin like that work that well?
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:20 pm

the guys on e30tech seem to use this company

http://666fab.com/main.html

and the import costs of motor parts is

(cost + carriage) x 8% duty x 17.5% vat...plus the carriage company's charges
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:41 pm

666fab.com - isnt that guy registered on here? jonvolk or something like that.

Now their M50/S50 manifolds look much better, still bottom mount though :?

Both the M20 manifolds look very :cool:
More expensive than the other but I bet there is a reason for that.
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:26 pm

one looks like its cast the other is tubular stainless
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:49 pm

DaveD wrote:one looks like its cast the other is tubular stainless
Yeah, the cheaper ones (like in my pic above) will most likely be cast, but will still be functional. The tubular manifolds will be better, but cost more.
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Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:45 pm

Hi , just checked my emails, no reply.
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Post Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:44 pm

If your interested in one of my manifolds (666 fab) let me know your shipping info and I can get you a quote if youd like. I have done quite a few international shipments. :D
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Post Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:22 pm

Hi jon_volk, any chance of a fabricated adapter pipe with external wg for right hand drive cars.

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Post Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:51 pm

oldroydsr4 wrote:Hi jon_volk, any chance of a fabricated adapter pipe with external wg for right hand drive cars.

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Unfortunately no. I dont have access to a right hand drive car and its tight enough right now without having a steering shaft in the way. Just the tubular manifold will fit that setup.
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Post Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:38 pm

jon_volk wrote:
oldroydsr4 wrote:Hi jon_volk, any chance of a fabricated adapter pipe with external wg for right hand drive cars.

cheers
Unfortunately no. I dont have access to a right hand drive car and its tight enough right now without having a steering shaft in the way. Just the tubular manifold will fit that setup.
And how much are these dude?
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Post Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:49 pm

From the website -

$865 = 460GBP + shipping etc.

There is a more expensive one at $1175 = 625GBP which is an equal length manifold, but Im not sure if that would fit RHD or not.

If I was going M20 turbo, I would be very tempted by one of these, but I guess the shipping and UK Customs costs could be the killer :(
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Post Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:56 pm

Might be worth checking PPF aswell, they are about 450 including tax and fit RHD but are not stainless, He said to me they could do stainless but would be quite abit more, more then jon volks inclluding shipping and tax, they do a M/S50 manifold which you might be intrested in if you turbo james
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Post Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:14 pm

WillG wrote:they do a M/S50 manifold which you might be intrested in if you turbo james
Hmmm. Might be worth a try. Are PPF easy enough to get hold of? Im guessing email will be the best way.
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Post Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:19 am

its pure-pf.com I think, sorry if thats not allowed to put up links to shops im not sure
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Post Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:35 am

Can't seem to find manifolds on the website and the conversion rate seems v wrong. $900 for an air filter :mad:
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Post Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:05 pm

1000 krona= Ԛ£73...their website needs some attntion....
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Post Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:02 pm

use XE to convert theirs doesnt work