council mods

[elf]

oh and just to mention
my council mods have got photo,s in different mags.
no feature yet.
got to add a few more council mods to get feature.ha ha

[bmwe30mtech]

oh and just to mention
my council mods have got photo,s in different mags.
no feature yet.
got to add a few more council mods to get feature.ha ha

'council mods' are great imho. i have kept my car fairly un-council because i dont like the image that goes with council mods, but big ass crome alloys and lowered to the floor cars rule! Black windows look great also!

[dazleeds]

ok i,ll own to one definative council mod on my car

my headrests have ///M stitched into them
oh and i have the m on the check light too nur nur

do i get a mag feature

now wheres me cap and hoody im off to mc ds for some burgers and donuts

[Splondike]

whats the worst then chaps, its a bit council seems to be a common comment on this forum

Great thread spook, I will just open up a tinny and sit back I think

I think most of the council wrongness has been covered... how about -80mm lowering that does nothing for the looks, handling or ability to negotiate speed bumps

[elf]

na draw the line on black out windows
not quite sure about image of council mods comment.
dont want to be associated with any type
i do things to my car because i want to and i like what i do.
if people like it good
if they dont.i dont care.

[dazleeds]

all jokes aside

as has been said it would be a boring world if all our cars looked the same

[fuzzy]

5" cut back tailpipe on a tiny exhaust system that sounds like a chainsaw cutting through a wasps nest when doing 20mph.

[bmwe30mtech]

na draw the line on black out windows
not quite sure about image of council mods comment.

Fair enough. If you like the standard window look...all good.
Image of council mods? I used to get chavs and slags admiring my chav alloys and pure black lights etc. Even got the odd wistle. All good in moderation but everyday it got a bit old .

[maxfield]

Everyone does everything to their own taste. bmwm30tech the wheels are a bit chav but at least it aint the same as almost every other M3 with style 5s altho i do like the style 5s.

[bmwe30mtech]

Everyone does everything to their own taste. bmwm30tech the wheels are a bit chav but at least it aint the same as almost every other M3 with style 5s altho i do like the style 5s.

yer i agree. They look great in my opinion. So does your whole m3, nothing wrong with chav parts on them, its all reversable anyway

[ste]

M3 mirrors
17" Alpina replicas
Eyebrow spoilers
Monitors in headrests
Chrome or alloy gearknobs, handbrake handles and pedals
Seatbelt harness pads
Angel eyes
Chrome door handles
Fake split rims
Mtech II rear spoilers on non-genuine Series 2 Sports
Even worse fake Mtech II spoilers
Even worse still, fake Mtech II spoilers with brake lights
Number plates with flags on
M-coloured anything. (Stripes on cam covers, handbrake and gear gaitors)
Any colour other than black handbrake and gearlever gaitors (unless cream etc to match full cream seats etc)
Anything neon - inside the car, under the car, in the boot, washer jets etc..
Visible sound systems - they are there to be heard not seen.
Large tail pipes.
Tints that are noticably darker than factory.
Any M badge not factory fitted (That includes dealer fit M badges).
Any Schnitzer, Alpina, Hartge etc badge on a non-genuine car.
Painted brake drums
Lexus Lights
95% of non-factory alloy wheels
All non-genuine BMW replica wheels
Stainless 'overbraid' on hoses - looks like it's been knitted by your granny
White wheels (except for certain white or motorsport inspired cars)
All aftermarket badges that replace the round BMW roundels on bonnet and boot (M, Schnitzer etc..)
Coloured carpet mats that aren't the same colour as the carpet (i.e. Blue mats on a black carpet in a red car.)
Carpet mats with checker plate or drilled aluminium sections.
Steering wheels that have silver metal on them (in a post 70s car)
Stick on carbon fibre film
Wooden dashes in anything after 1970s
More exhaust pipes than the car left the factory with
Non factory indicators in side mirrors
TV headunits
'Sports' seats that are bigger/ heavier than standard
'DTM' tailpipes
Embroidery on seats (especially M badges)
Alloy tax disc holders
Aluminium mesh in bumpers
Aluminium door sill protectors, especially M ones on non M cars

[anton]

hi there,
someone asked me what an OAK is...

well.. i suppose british english is very close to our(south african) english,

A joe soap, a bloke, AKA some oak

Greetz
Anton

[pacerpete]

Ste , you f*cken hero !!, that list just about covers all known 'council crimes', i reckon the mods should make it sticky as a guide for newbies to prevent them mutilating their innocent chariots, we have enough here already ! .
P.S any more than a 30mm drop also constitutes a 'council crime'

[andyp]

i agree with most of what has been said apart from the angel eyes, and i mean real ones.

[FBF]

can someone start a non council thread? id like to see whats good moddage.. i like eyebrows and black grills

[jmc330i]

Name one standard E30 Bmw that has been featured in a magazine.

Taking the term 'council' to mean visual changes to a car - (see the list provided by Ste) and that proper performance mods are not council, page 38-44 of PBMW Oct 06. Also known as Ants standard looking 325i turbo

his chariots are so council ,it's rumoured that some fit scouse council flange want them for a video !. O.K , so i'm jealous ,but whats wrong with my 635 ?, i even bought a new battery for it

[anton]

howsit,
we must make a thread that hopefully becomes sticky,
This thread should list all decent brands/makes of stuff...

like list 1 or 2 decent quality OEM quality clear/angel eye projector lights,tail lights etc..

generally, u get what u pay for...

This council thing is hilarious, we also have like "council estates" here,
basically piece of land with low-cost/mostly no-cost housing on it.

im gonna start talking that things look "council". and no-one will have a CLUE what im on about.. that is talk it here...

my girlfriend has JUST flown to the UK to work for a few months....
i mentioned to her that u apparently also get dodgy areas in london etc..
she didnt want to believe me... now i can tell her.. lol

those that come to cape town south africa also intially get a very rosy picture... ask IAN323SPORT, he's been..

but i suppose us that live here, know of the dodgy places etc..

the big picture i suppose is that all countries have their issues...

oh wait... lets not get into politics..

onto more council mods.. muhahahha

cheers
anton

[ste]

can someone start a non council thread? id like to see whats good moddage.. i like eyebrows and black grills

Modifications you can't buy on eBay.

Things that make the car better to drive.

Things that aren't obvious - i.e. 99% of people wouldn't even spot them.

Things that don't look like they came out of a Christmas cracker.

More never means more. Less is always more.

Rare new old stock parts. That's why an Alpina centre vent computer in its original packet is cool, it's why Schnitzer aero mirrors are cool, it's why unused Hartge backboxes are cool... How many other people have them, how many can you buy on eBay with your pocket money?

A perfect modified e30 should look like it could have come straight out of the factory like that, yet is 'enhanced'. Nothing is added to make a statement or turn the heads of the unwashed, yet it might be packing 350bhp, Ԛ£5k paint, rolling on bespoke wheels, fully adjustable suspension and the driver's sitting on 3 cows worth of hide. You can pull up next to a muppet in their Evo 8 with Lexus lights and see him recede in your mirror from the lights and leave him thinking his arse has been handed to him by a standard car.

Basically, for inspiration look at cleaned.be as a starting point and go from there. (Admittedly there is a lot of council on there too.)

[ste]

Taking the term 'council' to mean visual changes to a car - (see the list provided by Ste) and that proper performance mods are not council, page 38-44 of PBMW Oct 06. Also known as Ants standard looking 325i turbo

Spot on. Ant's car is so correct my correctometer is currently in the shop for repairs.

[anton]

pictures of ants car please.... i get confused sometimes people call me ant too sometimes.

cheers
anton

[anton]

guys, i can help out in a certain section

ive been competing in IASCA sound quality competitions for a few years. my 1988 mazda 323 based pickup placed 3rd at the national finals last year.

i like high quality reference quality sound in my vehicles. the e30 is getting a big install soon with the following equipment:

nakamichi cd400
jl audio e4300 amplifier
jl audio 10w1v2 subwoofer
high quality stinger 1farad capacitor
kef coda 7 5.25inch mid woofers and tweeters with kef crossovers built into custom kickpanels

i wil start a dedicated thread to the install when i get there. must first finish the re-spray of the pickup,
its being done in BMW E90 SPARKLING GRAPHITE color! will look tit when done.

will post photos etc..

but, i'd like to give something to e30zone, and that is when i start competing with the E30 (325i 4dr minter)
i'd like to post help/tips on howto build a car audio system that will make you want to ditch your midi/maxi hifi at home for nad/mission/celestion/arcam equipment...only to be able to hear sounds at home u hear in the car

greetz
Anton

[anton]

oh yes, one more thing..

a sound quality vehicle is not one that can be heard booming a mile away "council style"

its a vehicle that has been well sound-proofed dampened,

my pickup when playing loud, about 125db's inside, outside it sounds quieter than most standard radios sound
in factory installs when they are loud.

a good sq(sound quality) system typically produces 125 - 130db's of spl with a single 10inch woofer in an optimised enclosure.

believe it or not.. thats loud enough to damage your hearing when exposed for too long. so in other words its LOUD ENOUGH. most of the time it'll get listened to at normal listening level.

there are only 2 major-ish design challenges i have with the E30.

1) to cutout a 12" hole in the rear shelf for the woofer cone in the sub enclosure to fire directly INTO the cabin,secondly my rear-strut bar is on its way. and once that is installed it'll be difficult to build a box around it..

2) i need about 4litres of space for each kickpanel to be optimal, this is going to be imposible to achieve, keeping in mind both kickpanels should be similiar in size, and on the driver side u have the accelerator in the way.

watch for a post in the next couple of weeks

greetz
Anton

[Patm3]

jmc330i: you said the following

Taking the term 'council' to mean visual changes to a car - (see the list provided by Ste) and that proper performance mods are not council, page 38-44 of PBMW Oct 06. Also known as Ants standard looking 325i turbo

Maybe if Ant never had the turbo in his car, it would not have got featured so thats a silly example, but its a good article and an example to show E30 originality and it looks good. (no offence Ant your a nice fella this council thing is just stupid )

And why would i even entertain looking at the list Ste made, have you seen the car in his sig, very original init

[Davenotouring]

Taking the term 'council' to mean visual changes to a car - (see the list provided by Ste) and that proper performance mods are not council, page 38-44 of PBMW Oct 06. Also known as Ants standard looking 325i turbo

Spot on. Ant's car is so correct my correctometer is currently in the shop for repairs.

HAHAHA!! Genuis. Love it.

Council...

Motorsport convertibles because they are trying so hard, they've gone through cool back round to council.

M3 Cabs. Defies the point of having a proper homologation shell? Posers car? Fair enough if that's what it is.

Magical trees.

Any extra chrome.

Not having an LSD is council.

Non-uprated/M-Tech suspension.

Limo tints.

There is more, but ste covered many above!

[Ziggy]

Damn - I need a new tax disc holder. Hadn't really considered it before, but you're undoubtedly right!
& are black mats ok on cream/beige carpets? I'm worried now!

[Davenotouring]

So long as it's not a Richbrook tax disc holder, it's ok!

You should get cream mats really!

[jmc330i]

Maybe if Ant never had the turbo in his car, it would not have got featured so thats a silly example

Not a silly example at all. From a 'looks' point of view (as in the whole council thing) Ants car looks standard and is in a mag feature - well 3 mag features. Ok granted, if it wasnt force fed it probably wouldnt be featured, but the point is it doesnt have all the 'council' bits and is still in a mag.

this council thing is just stupid

Youre not wrong

And why would i even entertain looking at the list Ste made, have you seen the car in his sig, very original init

[DanThe]

Think im gonna have to take the silver paint of my brakes and let them go 'originally' rusty again

[Davenotouring]

At the end of the day, if you like your own car, that's all that matters.

Providing that you accept it won't be to everyones tastes. And the fact that Pacerpete will use his 'ridiculing stick' from 100 paces!

[Ziggy]

So long as it's not a Richbrook tax disc holder, it's ok!

You should get cream mats really!

I've no idea - it was in the car when I got it. Definately shiny though! But where to get a non-chav tax disc holder?! I'd never considered just how important it was...

& I don't like cream mats! Cream seats, but black centre console & dash obviously, so I've got black mats & door handles/pockets to match! It must be the repressed chav within me - I knew I wanted red mats for a reason.

[Ziggy]

At the end of the day, if you like your own car, that's all that matters.

Providing that you accept it won't be to everyones tastes. And the fact that Pacerpete will use his 'ridiculing stick' from 100 paces!

He'd use it from closer, but he doesn't like to walk too far & apparently the ridiculing stick's charger drains the car's battery. Or something.

[anton]

pleas please,
some pictures of ANTS car...

Anton

[ste]

Damn - I need a new tax disc holder. Hadn't really considered it before, but you're undoubtedly right!
& are black mats ok on cream/beige carpets? I'm worried now!

I can recommend Halford's plain black tax disc holders or the magnetic ones they do, but painted black. I'm afraid I have this disease bad. I do so many stupid little things to my cars and nobody would ever notice. I have a magnetic one as the stick on vinyl ones rinkle ever so slightly and sag. I buy the magnetic ones and paint them satin black.

I reckon black mats are always a good thing. It's the best colour for not showing up shoe dirt!

[ste]

pleas please,
some pictures of ANTS car...

Anton

Imagine a clean standard 325i SE with an is lip. That's the whole point of the car.

[oguz327]

Genuine 16 inch Alpina rims