V12 meets E30 Touring

[dips346]

Hiya
Have you had a kamshaft and lifter problem with your engine at all.

oh yes 1 was worn they is photos here somewhere

[Sanchez]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Yaninnya]

fitting a V12 to a E34 would be relatively straightforward? i've pulled a E32 735i apart for my M30 conversion and noticed how similar everything is to my wifes E34 525i sport and i now have an urge to try for a E34 550i sport, using a E32 750i donor...

I know that you posted a long time ago, but just now I read your question.
E32 and E34 are mechanicaly near the twins. It shoud be one of the easyest swaps in BMW range. It looks that original engine mounts, rad with all hoses, near whole exhaust, complete loom and many, many more can be fitted in E34 without any mods.
Jan

[fuzzy]

it was going to be a S38B38 into an e30,
i'll be putting my S62B50 into my M3 shell, until someone wants another project doing

what does that mean in plain english?

[maxfield]

S38B38 = 3.8 E34 M5 engine

S62B50 = M5 V8 I do believe

[stevetigger]

S38B38 = 3.8 E34 M5 engine

S62B50 = M5 V8 I do believe

I remember about a year ago you didn't know this kinda info, The zone is one big learning zone!

[bigpimpin]

fitting a V12 to a E34 would be relatively straightforward? i've pulled a E32 735i apart for my M30 conversion and noticed how similar everything is to my wifes E34 525i sport and i now have an urge to try for a E34 550i sport, using a E32 750i donor...

I know that you posted a long time ago, but just now I read your question.
E32 and E34 are mechanicaly near the twins. It shoud be one of the easyest swaps in BMW range. It looks that original engine mounts, rad with all hoses, near whole exhaust, complete loom and many, many more can be fitted in E34 without any mods.
Jan

This sounds interesting(although not E30!)......anyone got any info on this?
This would be quite a cheap conversion here as the old 7's and 5's are dirt cheap now.
Just had a quick look at the back of TBMW. The 5 litre V12 doesnt seem to have much more grunt that the E34 V8's but I bet the exhaust note would be awesome!

[Yaninnya]

The 5 litre V12 doesnt seem to have much more grunt that the E34 V8's but I bet the exhaust note would be awesome!

It is the matter of torque - over 300Nm at 1200 rpm...

[Gunni]

to be specific it´s over 50hp at 1200rpm

and if 300nm @ 2400rpm thats 100hp ;)

[Bat-Fink]

WOW! What a car?

[Yaninnya]

to be specific it´s over 50hp at 1200rpm

and if 300nm @ 2400rpm thats 100hp ;)

To be specific it is 355 Nm at 1000 rpm, 385 Nm at 2000 rpm, 415 Nm at 3000 rpm, 448 Nm at 4000 rpm, 420 Nm at 5000 rpm and 330 Nm at 6000 rpm (red line) as is saying official BMW biuletin 11 01 87 (2080) from December '87.
Jan

[dips346]

trust me when you put your foot down in 3rd rolling its like 1st in a 2.7

[Kos]

i have driven this car, and second whay dips said

planting your foot to the floor in 4th gear at 40 mph it is like lunching a 2.5 in first !!

tourque delivary is mental in a light weight e30 !!

[bigpimpin]

Dips, Is the 2 tone tourer in your sig pic the one with the V12?

What size are those RC's at the rear?

Cheers

[dips346]

Dips, Is the 2 tone tourer in your sig pic the one with the V12?

What size are those RC's at the rear?

Cheers

no mate the 2 tone was my old 2.5 turbo know my mate owns it,we just finished it the rear are 9.5x17
the v12 will one day get finished need to finish the super charger one next

[dark_sounds]

oh dips you crazy fooker,,,, quad turbo plans?

[dips346]

oh dips you crazy fooker,,,, quad turbo plans?

can be done but its the money just a proper twin turbo you looking at £20k

[bigpimpin]

Dips, Is the 2 tone tourer in your sig pic the one with the V12?

What size are those RC's at the rear?

Cheers

no mate the 2 tone was my old 2.5 turbo know my mate owns it,we just finished it the rear are 9.5x17
the v12 will one day get finished need to finish the super charger one next

Jeez! What offset are they? Mine are 9" with 20mm offset running 235x40x17's but they rub like hell even after flattening the arch. The guy said he could push out the arch a bit for more clearance but what have you done to get them fitting?

[dips346]

the arch has been flared by 1.5"/2" not sure on the off set,do you find 1 side scrapes or one side sits a bit lower on yours?

[bigpimpin]

Funny you should say that!

The passenger side rear seems to sit lower by around 20-25mm and it rubs more that the drivers side?

I have M3 springs in mine which I think are uprated too but they still might be a little soft for the tourer.

Cheers.

[dips346]

we used mixed rear springs not sure what my mate used at the end,i will find out for as we changed everything first from bushes,shocks,rollbar then the mixed springs worked as it sits even noe.............lol

[yz_250]

did you find it worth wile with the v12 motor .......(planing on transplanting a 540i in my e30)
But dont know if it would be worth it ?

Yz _ 250

[dips346]

one thing i say is,its not cheap at all to do either
the v12 very hard and to do properly you are looking at Ԛ£4000 to Ԛ£7000 to complete this a manual,auto will be more headache
the v8 is not a cheap conversion either as a manual gearbox set up is hard to find and gleen reconks the v8 is more of a job to do but if you dont mind spending the money and time to do it right you will love both engine set ups
too many people have done engine conversion and had so many issus with them as not been done right because of not having the money to complete them properly

[tim-ix]

I just thought that this thread deserves to be back on the front page again.

Does anyone know if anything has happened in the to this car in the last six months? Can't wait to see it finished.

[dips346]

no nothing yet but it will be getting reshelled very soon into a 2 door

[DieselMeister]

I see you're taking influence from the German beast in you avatar

Isn't that one powered by an Alpina lump?

Fab had a red 850Csi a while back. 12 cyls and 380bhp. About right then, heh.

[Grimmjar]

that car aktualy has a Super Charged M73.

[Kos]

that car aktualy has a Super Charged M73.

which car ??

[Grimmjar]

dips346´s Avatar is showing Roberts 350i from germany. first he had a M70 5.0 Alpina with 350 hp than a S70 5.7 CSI engine with 380 hp and at last a M73 5.4 with Super Charger and around 450 hp, i think. cos the Charger is a bit too smal for the engine.

Thomas

[Kos]

only the one supercharger ??

[Grimmjar]

He has a Rotrex C30 if i remember right or was it ASA?... but that "smal" thing is running out of steam in the upper rpm level. A Rotrex C38 should fit a V12 and could produce up to 600 hp. and it is a cheap one

Thomas

[dips346]

He has a Rotrex C30 if i remember right or was it ASA?... but that "smal" thing is running out of steam in the upper rpm level. A Rotrex C38 should fit a V12 and could produce up to 600 hp. and it is a cheap one

Thomas

tell me more as i want to quad turbo it

[Grimmjar]

you could get a C38 for 2000 euro. and with alcohol and no IC you could save lot of room and money. replace the AC with the Rotrex and "finish". but i don´t know if the cylider heads will flow 600hp.

[renegade_e30]

I have to say i read this thread with a lot of interest! - Your a complete genius glenn.

If i may, i do have a couple of questions regarding this project, as i am looking at doing the same myself.

1) I saw your posts regarding the engine mounts, and also the pictures of the engine mounts with the engine in place. Did you fabricate these yourself? Or did you find that using existing mounts from another car in the range gave you the correct fitment required?

2) Is the mounting pretty much the same as with the autobox? Or is the manual box from the 850ci very different? The reason I'm asking is I'll intend to use the autobox, rather than use the manual in the same way you have done. Also, I'm not sure i read about how you finalised the rear driveline set up. What did you do in the end, if you dont mind me asking.

3) In terms of wiring, did all of those hundred odd wires need to be wired in? Would it be easily achieveable using wiring diagrams for both the cars in question and just wiring the engine loom to the E30's car loom.

Hope that you dont mind me asking these questions. Thanks in advance.

I hope you don't mind me asking the questions.

[dips346]

autobox will never fit ,unless you redo the bulkhead and tunnel and you will have a lot more wiring to do ,the mount were fabricated from scratch