BMW 325 E30 vs Maserati Biturbo

[78dude]

So what do you guys like?

[Turbo-Brown]

Personally I'd love a Bi-Turbo, think they look wicked even though the engine's are inherantly flawed.

Never really looked at them side by side, but the Mazza's not all that different to the E30

[e30bmlover]

your asking in the wrong place mate. e30 325is every time. the last picture you have put up is legendary. shes looking like sterling silver.

[DRIFTBOY]

I dread to think how much spare parts are for the Maserati! And I bet you'd need a lot of them to keep it going.
And I've not seen many in my local scrapyards lately!
Good looking car though.

[Gwynleym10]

I think when I visited pacerpete he had both in his garden... I love older flawed italian cars!

[E30BeemerLad]

the biturbo does have appeal for me, but i think that's just because I like oddball cars.

The E30 would be a more rewarding and less frustrating or costly ownership experience. I had a V6 Alfa 164 and it was a pretty good motorway chariot, but also a frustrating car to own with the usual italian foibles. Somehow you always find a place in your heart to forgive it, well upto a point.

Mine went for £50 in the end and was still a handsome and capable car, just needed work doing which was gonna be expensive. With old alfas you just seem to throw them away and buy another rather than repair them

[e30bmlover]

the biturbo does have appeal for me, but i think that's just because I like oddball cars.

The E30 would be a more rewarding and less frustrating or costly ownership experience. I had a V6 Alfa 164 and it was a pretty good motorway chariot, but also a frustrating car to own with the usual italian foibles. Somehow you always find a place in your heart to forgive it, well upto a point.

Mine went for £50 in the end and was still a handsome and capable car, just needed work doing which was gonna be expensive. With old alfas you just seem to throw them away and buy another rather than repair them

loveing the sport in the background!!!!

[E30BeemerLad]

aye, that was Betty, the £500 shitter
I do miss that car

Edit: not a sport though

[bmpaul]

325 all day long- but the masar is a good looking motor!!

[H35-IAN]

im sure pacer pete has one of them mazerattis!

[78dude]

A Biturbo in good shape is a car who can eat your M3 E30 for lunch if....... its......working....???
Remember the V6 with twin turbo is a watch from swiss. I used to have a 164 3.0 V6 "F"reg two years ago and the whole car give me a huge smile on my face, but for god sake, I took it to the garage every month because of all the problems I had. And one day it came a "click" in my brain who sayd now it is enoughe!

Prestanda, design and artwork the Maserati win, but the E30 kills the Biturbo every where else....

[pacerpete]

I have a later Ghibli, it is a very serious chariot that will slaughter a M3 everywhere, it looks great,has a gorgeous ott interior and makes me smile everytime i look at it or drive it. Unfortunately it has been a while, it is resting at the moment,with electrical dramas...........

[stuartgallafant]

E30 everytime!!! does anyone else think the bi-turbo's rear lights look similar to the pre '88 lights?

[Wiggy]

I love the Ghibli Cup's.....Those arches and 306 bhp from a 2 litre.

I often find myself checking the classified for one but I suppose they are brutally unreliable and cost a fortune to service (someone tell me different so I can start saving )

[E30BeemerLad]

aah, the Cartier clock in the dash, mmmmmmmmm

Ghibli is pure sex, saw one at an Evo track day at Snetterton a couple of years ago and it almost looked 355 quick down the pit straight.

[Geeman]

Pete... this Ghibli you have in your 'yard'... is it a keeper or are you looking for a potential victim? Stupid question really... you're always looking for victims!

[E30BeemerLad]

steady on Giles, you offloaded that 7 yet?

[Geeman]

Lee... it's on the Trader now. Two old boys been to take it for a spin... nothing concrete. New tyres ordered and fitted early next week.

No real intrest though.

Pondering what to get to replace it though... no spare cash is very frustrating!

[AC_S]

E30BeemerLad loving the 164,i can finally forgive u for buying a soarer.
learned to drive at the age of 13 in my old mans 164 T.Spark.
cried the day he sold it, even if it was in s**t as a result
of my brother running out of talent on returning to his lane
after a high speed 5 car pass out!!!!!!!!!

[hubble]

The maserati are seriously quick cars. sub 6 seconds if I'm right, but a troubled motor car too. Anyone knowing about these cars will tell you to have a understanding bank manager to hand....

[78dude]

Its no doubt in the world that the Beemer E30 is a F**ing good car who have give alot of joy for petrol heads. In another tread they are talking about the MB190 Evo/Cosworth vs M3 E30
One car I always will give alot of respect is the Alfa 75 who is cheap as crisp and is a good car from what can say is the Itlaian "BMW". Main problem is the lack of quality with rust and the gearbox who always gives you problem on the 2nd gear. And the very cheap Interior who looks like the cheapest funiture you can buy in IKEA
But god how cool its looks, and have the same family as the E30 as a driving machine.

[pacerpete]

I have to agree, an alfa 75 V6 is a great fun car to drive but i could never own a car that looks so ugly and has such a flimsy joke shop interior , when you next see one (usually in a breakers) check out the handbrake and the positioning of the window switches ! . In fairness though i have never seen a rusty one !

[Gwynleym10]

Yea I don't think 75's rust!

wonder if you could fit a 156 or even 145 interior into one...

[Speedtouch]

Like the look and exotic rarity of the Biturbo, and would love to try one - you see some advertised surprisingly cheap but I guess that's for a reason. I was following a red one on the M25 once, and it was pissing petrol onto the road, the driver sailing along oblivious! I was saddened to see Jeremy Clarkson deliberately smash one up on Top Gear (he dropped it from a crane!) but he reckoned it was total crap. I guess you have to be a dedicated enthusiast to own one and fettle it regularly. Beemer scores on its reliability and ease of repairs/parts availability. I'm loving mine

[M5pilot]

There is an Alfa 155 V6 in my area, the guy canes it everywhere.

The noise is...... Automotive Porn.

Would I buy one? errr......dunno.

Sal

[Fushion_Julz]

I used to have Alfas....all the ones I had were the twin-cam 4cyls...75 doesn't rust (I had a twin-spark 2.0), but the interior is shite (can't change CD/cassette in 5th, for example) and the car is much heavier, but bigger in the back expecially, than a 4dr E30.

But the GTV 2.0 twin cams that used the same motor, on carbs and without the twin spark heads, (130bhp) are fantastic motors...The later ones feel quality inside and the balance/weight distribution is better than anything past a Porsche 944/968
They aren't that slow, either...But rust like crazy!
GTV6 is seriously fast, but has absoloutly no boot space (cos the fuel tank is in the boot/hatch to make way for a bigger exhaust back box under the car)...

These were mine:

[E30BeemerLad]

love the GTV6, remember that one Roger Moore drives on Octopussy? Sounds great and some awesome hooligan behaviour.

The V6 lump is one of the main reasons I bought the 164, thought I have to own at least one Alfa V6 in my lifetime