Who has done this conversion

[Dee]

Hi all

I have just bought an M3 E36 EVO engine and gear box the hole lot for my E30.

Whos done the conversion and what is needed for me to do this
any help would be pukka

[tylerma]

Hiya mate I know zoom motorsport do the conversion

http://www.zoommotorsport.co.uk/test.htm

hope this helps

[AndyG]

did you get the wiring loom, ignition key and ignition barrel as well? As these are required to allow the ECU to make the car run. (or so I am led to believe)

[Jhonno]

yeah the 3.2 evo lump has the EWS on it

needs the key and all the other gubbins associated

[glenn]

that age of car had the EWS system, so you will need the key, and the ews box, its coded to that brain.
you can get another key from the stealers, but they will need the chassis number from the car that the brain came out of.

[Dee]

I will check it out on the barrel key and ECU as i have not bought it out right yet.

Can you not get the ECU wiped? and run of you original key thats in my 325

[Jhonno]

nope cant wipe it

[vroooom_ptssssh]

Another way around it would be to run aftermarket management!

[Dee]

So its basicly no good with out the igniton barrel then.
How about the M5 engine as i can get either one

[vroooom_ptssssh]

nope, doesnt seem like it, unless u can:

A - get the vin number of the car it came out of to get a new key from BMW

or

B - use aftermarket management to eliminate the bmw management and the need for the key ;)

[glenn]

you dont need the ignition barrel,
cars equiped with ews will have a transponder covering the outside of the barrel, so you will need that part of the loom,
any transponder will do, thats just reading the frequency of the key,
but the key needs to match the frequency set in the brain.
i think the stealers can reset all of it but i think they ask for you to bring them the whole car(you'll have to check on that).

[Jhonno]

yeah the key needs to match the brain.. no ignition barrel involved

Can get a key if you know the chassis number of the car it came from..

Aftermarket managment is virtually impossible due to the vanos = Ԛ£Ã”šÃ‚£Ãƒ”šÃ‚£Ãƒ”šÃ‚£Ãƒ”šÃ‚£

[Dee]

So what if i went for the M5 engine instead would this still be the same problem????

[Paul325i]

Dude talk to ian332i, he did the complete conversion on his own and knows the ins and outs of it all.

[glenn]

i looked into after market engine management for my project car,
because there's four vanos unit's,
i was told
"you'd better apply for a lottery grant"
as it would need two management units in piggy back, one unit isn't powerful enough.

[jmc330i]

Ive got the 3.0ltr M3 engine, but it is a late one so has EWS.

Basically, as said, you need the ECU, EWS module and the ignition key(s) all from the same car. The 'aerial' and loom can be from a different EWS equiped M3 or bought new from the $tealers.

If the ECU is from a different car to the EWS module then the engine will not run. They cannot be recoded to work with each other.

If you have the ECU/EWS from the same car there is a chance they will need to be re-aligned if they havent had any power for a while, the $tealers can do this.

[M5pilot]

Which M5 engine are we talking about here? e28 3.5, e34 3.6, e34 3.8?

None of them have EWS. However the conversion is a litte bit harder. More realistic power though as the 3.6's are known to always put out 315bhp+.

[Karan]

damn all this talk of m5s.... i feel like taking mine out for a drive (gotta love the 3rd gear on that thing!) but i cant cos its in pieces!

u have to do ure research well on both conversions and tot up the costs as it really really does add up especially when u start adding goodies like suspension, brakes etc.....

Karan

[glenn]

tell me about it !!!

[Dee]

I have spoken to John at Zoom motorsport and he is going to do the work for me and will supply another ECU/EWS he has done this a few times and is happy to do it