Do i need a cat?

Need technical Q/A then you're in the right place

Moderator: martauto

bennyboy
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: West Sussex

Post Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:45 pm

Recently i swapped my M40 (with cat) for a M42 (with no cat). My car is
j-reg but im not too sure if it needs a cat. dont think that j-reg does but my car was built in dec'92 according to the RAC website.
Anyway, if it comes to it, i may need to put a cat on for the MOT. if i do this i need the lamda probe aswell? will an ecu on a cat car be different to a one that is of a car without?

P.S. Still need a coil mount if anyone can help!!!
Image
16V IS engine!!!
dazleeds
old skool raver
old skool raver
Posts: 12883
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Empire Building @

Post Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:49 pm

im preety sure everything 92 and on musthave a cat

well for the mot anyway winkeye
www.oldskoolfantasy.co.uk
in the shit,the one to blame,yeh its all my fault ;)
bennyboy
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 218
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: West Sussex

Post Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:19 pm

it was registered march '92. however, When it was MOTed last year by a friend the station wrote '91 on the ticket. i used to be an MOT assistant and im 99% sure that it can go through on a normal emissions test if they agree on '91.
Image
16V IS engine!!!
Chris-W
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 7219
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: South Cheshire

Post Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:48 pm

I believe it's a non-cat test for anything up to end July '92.
User avatar
ausbmwboy
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 31
Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:50 am

YES!

Get a cat.
I love mine.
its so fluffy and it keeps me warm in winter. :D
User avatar
Alistair
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 95
Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Dursley

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:53 pm

what about a cat m42 into the space of a non cat m40,
will I need the cat?
dobbie82
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4125
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Dolgellau, Wales (NOT A TRADER,broken a car,got lots of bits)

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:55 pm

ausbmwboy wrote:YES!

Get a cat.
I love mine.
its so fluffy and it keeps me warm in winter. :D

Damn you beat me to it! suprised stevetigger didnt jump in ther first though!
e30 related ebay auctions + shop(MY Stuff for Sale), http://tinyurl.com/64aufr
My Feedback on the e30zone: http://tinyurl.com/dobbie82feedback
DaveD
E30Zone Wiki Specialist
Posts: 5129
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:59 pm

i found this

Emissions testing for petrol engines appears complex but once the date of first use and the vehicle type has been established then it's really quite simple.

Passenger cars:

* First used before 1/8/1975 - Visual test only. Failure for excess idle speed, dense blue or black smoke for 5 seconds at idle or during acceleration up to 2500rpm or half engine max speed whichever lowest.
* First used between 1/8/75 and 31/7/86 - meter test CO <=4.5%, HC<=1200ppm.
* First used between 1/8/86 and 31/7/92 - meter test CO<=3.5%, HC<=1200ppm.
*

First used between 1/8/92 and 31/7/94 - advanced emission test (CAT) if its running on petrol when presented, to the vehicle specific limits usually around CO<=0.3%, HC<=200ppm and Lambda 0.97 - 1.03. Remember from 1st August 2001 a basic emission test will be carried out initially.
dazleeds
old skool raver
old skool raver
Posts: 12883
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Empire Building @

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:02 pm

dobbie82 wrote:
ausbmwboy wrote:YES!

Get a cat.
I love mine.
its so fluffy and it keeps me warm in winter. :D

Damn you beat me to it! suprised stevetigger didnt jump in ther first though!
Damn good at finishing the milk, chasing rodents oh and driving insane with sticks/string and lazer pointers winkeye

so i hear 8O
www.oldskoolfantasy.co.uk
in the shit,the one to blame,yeh its all my fault ;)
jmc330i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 6621
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Somerset

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:02 pm

The date for the Cat is August '92 onwards.
Although my Oct '92 Cav SRi passed MOTs without the Cat fitted (it fell off due to rust, so was replaced by a straight pipe) as longs as it passes the emissions test, it should be ok.

Your J reg car will not need a Cat as it will of been registered before August '92.
James
'91 325i Sport
'93 318i touring 16v
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49360
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:24 pm

There is no requirement for any car to have a cat. The requirement is for it to meet certain emission requirements after Aug 1992 registrations, that are much stricter than those for pre Aug 92 registrations.
Any car running on petrol is going to be hard pushed to meet the later requirements unless it is fitted with a working cat.
A car running on LPG will easily meet the later requirements without using a cat, and, I think, but I'm not sure, that a later car fitted with a pre Aug 92 engine, is exempt.
DaveD
E30Zone Wiki Specialist
Posts: 5129
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Sheffield

Post Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:45 pm

[quott I'm not sure, that a later car fitted with a pre Aug 92 engine, is exempt.[/quote]


according to the website you are correct but it stresses that you have to give cast iron evidence and that the rules are as to the age of the engine
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49360
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Wed Jul 19, 2006 12:36 am

Most manufactuers will give the engine age in writing if you supply them with the engine number.