URGENT-Sunroof Problem!! Now Worse!!

[Pal318is]

Guys,

Yesterday I tried to fit in my Electric sunroof, I have all the bits required, but for some reason, it's not working properly??
When trying to open and close the sunroof, (which was working fine with the winder mechanism) it's jamming and not opening properly now at all, it just seems like it jamming somewhere and I can't see where..the motor is just working, but it's only moving the actual sunroof a inch at a time and then stops when it's jammed. I had to force the sunroof shut with my hands lastnight as it would not shut otherwise, as well as that the lining on the sunroof is now catching somwhere too and it almost looks like it's not sitting right now??
Is there a certain way this needs to be done?? Does the sunroof need to be shut when I fit the motor? Is that why it's out of place now?? It was working fine beforehand...please help, I never envisaged this to be this difficult

Please Help..

Pal

[Pal318is]

Anyone

[Brianmoooore]

Sunroof must be fully closed when you fit the motor to the plate, with the motor also in the fully closed position (set by plugging the motor in and setting it with the switch.)
If the roof is jamming, then it's a matter of working out what you've done wrong, and I can't answer that from here.
Did you change the whole mech, or just fit a motor to the manual set up?

[Pal318is]

Fitted the whole mecahism - plate, motor, loom.
I did fit with the sunroof open, which I didn't realise would be a probelm
How do you know the motor is in the fully closed psotion?

Thanks Brian

Pal

[Brianmoooore]

Fitted the whole mecahism - plate, motor, loom.
I did fit with the sunroof open, which I didn't realise would be a probelm
How do you know the motor is in the fully closed psotion?

Thanks Brian

Pal

You do actually fit the roof with it open. I set both sides to same position (IIRC, there are holes each side somewhere where you can place pins to make sure each side is the same), then fit the motor temporarily and use it to fully close the roof.
I then remove the motor and use the switch to set it to the fully closed position. Do this by pushing one of the buttons and letting the motor run till it stops. Press the same button again. If the motor starts again, that was the fully closed position, so push the other button to return it.
If the motor didn't start again when you pushed the same button, push the other button untill it stops. That is the fully closed position.
Refit the motor and try the mechanism without the panel.
Move to fully tilted and bolt on the roof panel.
Move to one third slid back, and refit the lower panel.

[Pal318is]

Fitted the whole mecahism - plate, motor, loom.
I did fit with the sunroof open, which I didn't realise would be a probelm
How do you know the motor is in the fully closed psotion?

Thanks Brian

Pal

You do actually fit the roof with it open. I set both sides to same position (IIRC, there are holes each side somewhere where you can place pins to make sure each side is the same), then fit the motor temporarily and use it to fully close the roof.
I then remove the motor and use the switch to set it to the fully closed position. Do this by pushing one of the buttons and letting the motor run till it stops. Press the same button again. If the motor starts again, that was the fully closed position, so push the other button to return it.
If the motor didn't start again when you pushed the same button, push the other button untill it stops. That is the fully closed position.
Refit the motor and try the mechanism without the panel.
Move to fully tilted and bolt on the roof panel.
Move to one third slid back, and refit the lower panel.

Thanks Brian

Tried this again lastnight and made it even worse by using screws too long and in turn putting 2 nice dinks in the roof, from the inside, as the screws were to long I tried using the screws from the original sunroof, but these are too short, any ideas on what length/type they should be??

I'm having the most trouble actually fitting the motor itself as the holes just don't want to match how they should, I can only get 2 screws in at a time, which is not enough and in turn the motor is turning but not moving the actual sunroof. Tried everything can anyone suggest how it may go on??

Thanks

Pal

[Brianmoooore]

If you're having trouble getting all three screws in, it sounds like you're only fitting the front half of the motor plate, and not the whole mechanism as you said above.
Is this correct?
If so, then a) The motor does NOT quite fit the manual backplate. Nearly, but not quite> This can be overcome by drilling the holes in the motor itself slightly oversize.
b) The LH motor bolt needs a spacer and longer screw to avoid crushing the guide tubes.

[Pal318is]

If you're having trouble getting all three screws in, it sounds like you're only fitting the front half of the motor plate, and not the whole mechanism as you said above.
Is this correct?
If so, then a) The motor does NOT quite fit the manual backplate. Nearly, but not quite> This can be overcome by drilling the holes in the motor itself slightly oversize.
b) The LH motor bolt needs a spacer and longer screw to avoid crushing the guide tubes.

I have fitted the plate using 5 screws to hold in place, then tried to screw in the motor, I have been able to get 2 screws in but not the 3rd. When looking at the holes that the screws go into from below, I look likes that the mechanism that the guides go into is on the piss, hence not matching up with the motor? Is this correct..I've tried to move it, so that it's in line with the motor, but it's proving to be very difficult.
So the Left Hand motor bolt needs to be longer then with a spacer? Sorry for sounding thick, but what type of spacer do you meen?

Thanks Again Brian

Pal

[Brianmoooore]

Are you trying to fit a electric front (gold coloured) plate to a manual (black coloured) back plate? (Think I may have got those colours the wrong way around)
If so, it does not fit. The back plate for the electric mechanism is slightly different to that for a manual.
This can be overcome by 1) drilling the mounting holes in the actual motor slightly larger, and 2) Fitting a small spacer on the left hand screw and using a longer screw.
The electric rear plate has a rivnut fitted between the two guide tubes on the left, but the manual backplate has the thread in the plate itself.
The spacer is the thickness of the rivnut, and allows the motor shaft to fit perpendicular to the backplates.

[Pal318is]

Are you trying to fit a electric front (gold coloured) plate to a manual (black coloured) back plate? (Think I may have got those colours the wrong way around)
If so, it does not fit. The back plate for the electric mechanism is slightly different to that for a manual.
This can be overcome by 1) drilling the mounting holes in the actual motor slightly larger, and 2) Fitting a small spacer on the left hand screw and using a longer screw.
The electric rear plate has a rivnut fitted between the two guide tubes on the left, but the manual backplate has the thread in the plate itself.
The spacer is the thickness of the rivnut, and allows the motor shaft to fit perpendicular to the backplates.

Definately an Electric Sunroof panel mate, I got it from a mate at my local dealers. I think i've sussed it. Got the correct size bolts, which I didn't have before, also looking at my motor, part of it looks a little bent, so this maybe why the bugger wasn't screwing in. (i'm hoping)

Thanks Buddy

Pal