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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:17 pm

right i need to get my car sorted out before it gets sent off for body work..

i "failed" ehum... MOT on:
Both front Roll bar link bushes
Both rear subframe bushes
both rear tyres...

tyres dont worry about,,, il leave them to get shreded that little bit more.. there gonna get removed anyway...

now i want the polybushes,, but getting confused as to whats what and what would be any good for me IS.

so could anyone point me in the right direction (size etc)

ie from the zone shop.. if you could post up the links to what ones i need. :) cheers
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:24 pm

ok mate here's the link
http://www.powerflex.co.uk/select_produ ... alog=&cat=
select your car and download the pdf doc and you have a comprehensive diagram

I've emailed it to you to save you the bother mate
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:50 pm

alright, cheers fella! nice one :)

front roll bar links bushes is the same as the front anti roll bar mounting bushes right?? just called somethin different,, im reading it from the MOT guys paper :)
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:11 pm

dark_sounds wrote:alright, cheers fella! nice one :)

front roll bar links bushes is the same as the front anti roll bar mounting bushes right?? just called somethin different,, im reading it from the MOT guys paper :)
Language of car parts is always a bit vague isn't it?
Front roll bar links bushes - would mean the actual little ink bars that connect roll bar to wishbone - called stabilizer bar connecting link in this pic
http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/frntsusp.jpg

mounting bushes are these puppies - I think
http://www.c3bmw.co.uk/StockItem.asp?ca ... m=unassign
and there are two of them and they are positioned as number 2 in the pdf document in the powerflex diagram of the E30 setup
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:24 pm

its the first one,,, front rollbar links bushes.. can you get uprated powerflex ones of these?? or not worth it no point?/

just thinking if im gonna chage htem might as well chnage them proper!
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:28 pm

anti roll bar links - no powerflex equivalent

no point - look at pic mate - they are just tiny little link bars
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:36 pm

oh right, easy to change???
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:49 pm

very easy to change 2 13mm nut and bolts and 1 17mm nut

i wouldn't buy £12 italian jobbies from gsf they are utter shite and wear out in under a year
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:50 pm

cheers, Euro any better?

or dealers? assuming they dont charge too much, they are quite reasonable with this kinda thing right??
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:53 pm

tbh i don't know what the ones from euro's are like or how much they are!

same with main dealer ones, but these will be the best ones if your planning on keeping the car
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:53 pm

dark_sounds wrote:
i "failed" ehum... MOT on:
Both front Roll bar link bushes
Both rear subframe bushes
both rear tyres...
Sorry to hear that, always a few things to sort out at MOT time :cry:
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:15 pm

no worries, this was 3 months ago...

lol ;) friendly MOT man, just now ive got the funds and time to sort things out

doing it myself means taking alot of time normally.

will try and do the rolbar link buses tommorow.

and i hear the rear subframe bushes are a pain in the backside? if so ill give this job to a friendly garage, if not il do it myself.

any ideas?
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Post Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:51 pm

what size are your roll bar bushes?

I have some in stock - genuine & unused
could trade you for your bootlight that I'm hankering after to add some light to the touring interior
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:07 am

the roll bar links bushes?? i duno what size,, 318is??? anyone know?

i only need the rollbar links bushes and rear subframe bushes..
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:17 am

Antiroll bars
The only upgrade within the E30 family is the convertibles' front ARB, it being 21mm diameter compared to 20mm of the 318is, this being a useful 20% stiffer. The M3 uses 19mm on the front (but a different design - although the mounts can be welded onto the struts) and the exact same size on the rear (14.5mm) - so a custom bar is the only option for the back.
taken from
http://www.esatclear.ie/~bpurcell/318is ... suspension

Will check the ones I have but possibly they are smaller.
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:13 am

Simon13 wrote: i wouldn't buy £12 italian jobbies from gsf they are utter shite and wear out in under a year
I'll second that, mine lasted about 7 months/1100 miles :(
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:46 am

dark_sounds wrote:
and i hear the rear subframe bushes are a pain in the backside? if so ill give this job to a friendly garage, if not il do it myself.

any ideas?
They are a pain I have heard (never actually tried to do them myself). Apparently there is a special tool, with it its a three hour job (garage) , without it I was quoted 8 hours :evil:
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:51 am

charlE30 wrote:
Simon13 wrote: i wouldn't buy £12 italian jobbies from gsf they are utter shite and wear out in under a year
I'll second that, mine lasted about 7 months/1100 miles :(
well thats no good, i do close to that a mointh!

right will have to ring up my friendly dealer (oi! stuart!)

hmm, 21mm anti roll bars?? is the compleate anti roll bar easy enough to replace?? if so then its worth considering! if not, im not too bothered about it at the mo! interesting piece toby, didnt know that.

also has anyone got the "special" tool! lol will give it a go myself if i can get hold of the tool!
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:28 pm

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dark_sounds wrote:
and i hear the rear subframe bushes are a pain in the backside? if so ill give this job to a friendly garage, if not il do it myself.

any ideas?
They are a pain I have heard (never actually tried to do them myself). Apparently there is a special tool, with it its a three hour job (garage) , without it I was quoted 8 hours :evil:
I did mine sub frame bushes (with powerflex), they can be a pain in the a**. If you do them yourself allow a day for both sides, use a blowtourch and haksaw to get the old ones out. If you fit poly bushes ie powerflex you don't need any special tools, a bit of M10 threaded bar and two metal plates will do :D both available from your local Focus store.

Give it a go mate, it feels really good when you complete something most people run away from :cool:
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:55 pm

anti roll bar fitting is a sad job!

Your car won't fail the mot if the mounting bushes are worn, only the drop links will make it fail

sub frame bushes are an utter wanker of a job! budget about £150 to get them done

tap up stuartgallafant!
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:58 pm

yeah will do.... hey stuuueeyy!! winkeye

nah failed on rear subframe bushes and front links bushes. not the mounting.

meh hopefully if i get hold of the tool to do it, ill get my friend to do it for me,,, buy one get one free hours labour :mad: so will prob cost a fair bit less :)

heard from a birdiee that you didnt think too highly of the polyflex bushes Si? any reason? and Brianmooore?
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:57 pm

The powerflex rear subframe bushes are awesome after about 500 miles of driving.

Ask the people who have had them in their cars.

The ARB bushes are considerably stiffer than the BMW ones and are well worth the effort.

This is based on having these on my car and feedback from numerous users.
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:46 pm

just wait till they dry out and start to squeek after a year or so
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:48 pm

in all honesty, regardless , i dont drive my car hard enough, i havnt been to a track day (and prob wont) so wont make a huge difference driving to work every other day. think ill just stick to bmw parts.

cheers for the replies anyways:) helped clear a few things
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:51 pm

u won't go far wrong if u do that Mr diddy sounds!
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:54 pm

I didn't hear karan's GUG squeak.

They were on there for quite some time.
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:03 pm

sub frame bushes are locked into place, the other bushes on the car are not
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:12 pm

Simon13 wrote:u won't go far wrong if u do that Mr diddy sounds!
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:16 pm

Simon13 wrote:sub frame bushes are locked into place, the other bushes on the car are not
Therefore your comment was misleading. So the subframe ones are ok then.
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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:29 pm

Jhonno wrote:not again guys.. peace and love
exactly what i was thinking,,, atleast the peace thing anyway,

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Peace with malicious jealous pricks? I've tried on numerous occasions and it hasn't worked.

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Post Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:31 pm

M5pilot wrote:Peace with malicious jealous pricks? I've tried on numerous occasions and it hasn't worked.

Sal
come on dude, no need for that eh? lets just leave it as is