M30 Turbo update thread ****RUNNING

[gareth]

damn this thing is looking good!

i reckon you should start a "how much power will it have" sweepstake thread!

[lentec]

flanges haven't stayed 100% true unfortunately but hopefully the gasket will sort this out... worst case have to machine it flat which won't be the end of the world.

Mate if they are not 100% flat they will leak! save wasting a gasket and get it machined first. I welded my 6 branch on an old head they all lifted and i have to run 2 gaskets with asembly paste between them.

Looking

[Turbo-Brown]

Yeah, it shouldn't be difficult for a machine shop to skim that, there's lots of meat for them to hold onto

That manifold looks wicked too Toby!

How much boost you say you were gonna run ?

[buster]

looking good there toby.
If you want that skimming flat i can do it for you if you pay the postage,mind you it maybe cheaper to find somewhere local than to post it here !

[Toby_Unna]

cool.

only thing is, do you reckon it's worth putting it on the car for a bit and running a few heat cycles through it first, before getting it machined?

don't wanna have to do it twice

Buster, cheers for the offer - on a rather tight schedule so hopefully get it done locally.

[WillG]

it depends how far its out, one i had with 1mm out at each end pulled flat fine, it wasnt warped much but it was a 1 piece stainless flange, yours are individual and its mild steel so should probly pull flat easier. The heat will release the stresses that warped it aswell so it might be easier to possibly waste a gasket and try it but it depends what its gona cost to skim it and how bad it is

[Toby_Unna]

the end two flanges have moved out slightly, the other four are perfect. may have a go at rewelding those two...

on a better note - just insured it from next week for £444 for a year!

[ollielsd]

dude what is up with your welder lol

[glenn]

on a better note - just insured it from next week for £444 for a year!

that's excellent toby

[DieselMeister]

£444? Bloody hell.

Fully comp?

Reputable insurer?

Voluntary excess less than £200?

Sheesh. Not much more than what I pay for my completely bone stock 325 Sport. And I have nearly ten years no claims, less than 6 points and an advanced driving test pass.

I hate you

[Toby_Unna]

classic policy from firebond. first company i tried!

tpft, all mods declared (with the usual sucking of breath lol), 3000 miles per year and requires me to have a second car. i'm nearly 25 with clean licence (1 sp30 5 years ago).

best thing is though, being classic all they ask is no recent claims, doesn't actually use my 7 yrs NCB. so i can use that to insure the 205diesel for about 20 quid a year with tesco

[WillG]

dude what is up with your welder lol

Im pretty sure he is using gasless cos you can see all the flux like with mma (stick) its never pretty with that stuff he can always sand it down and paint it black if it bothers him i guess, also he probly using a cheap mask with wrong filter so cant see shit which is why the runs are short.

Toby did you weld round the inside where the studs/bolts are?, in pics on outside it isnt welded there or is that just becuase it isnt finished yet.

[Ant]

Argon in the top pic hints at gas

but kudos to Toby, regardless of any opinions on the welding this is entirely his own work.

I hate Mig, does the job but soooo messy, still prefer gas with a no 2 nozzle , better still Tig but I'm a few bags shrt of one @ the mo

[DanThe]

prefer gas with a no 2 nozzle

You must be an old skool welder then Ant

Argon/Co2 mix is the best for MIG welding mild steel
Argon is for Ally

[Toby_Unna]

Will, it's actually a fairly powerful gas mig welder. hate gasless. and yes although there is some welding on the inside of the primaries, they aren't finished.

looks messy in the pics, bit better in reality. however there's decent heat penetration on all welds and i'll be surprised if it breaks. i couldn't give a f*ck what it looks like, have you seen the rest of the car!!

it's made out of a girder and a scaffold tube so it ain't going to be pretty...

Ant, how you fixed next week.

[Toby_Unna]

prefer gas with a no 2 nozzle

You must be an old skool welder then Ant

Argon/Co2 mix is the best for MIG welding mild steel
Argon is for Ally

haven't used the the argon yet, it's apparently what i'm to use when i weld the stainless exhaust up

[Turbo-Brown]

Chap at my local welding supplies centre said give it a go with the BOC argoshield on stainless because most of the time it works out fine. Other than the silencer splitting open, which I think is down to my bad design, it seems to be alright (so far)

[lentec]

I use CHUB CO2 on stainless never had a problem with a weak joint

[Ant]

@ Len, inspired mate, still makes me smile

for Mig I use C02/Argon mix, best overall gas, badly want a Tig though, spent 4.5 yrs working 10 hours a day tigging stuff @ my old firm, would be bloody useful now

[Toby_Unna]

I use CHUB CO2 on stainless never had a problem with a weak joint

quality

few internal pics from yesterday - having a quick break from it as it's too bloody hot outside!

divider part welded



smoothing section added



nearly there...



just doing odds and sods today - finishing the wastegate-downpipe section, put the inlet side back together etc.

[Toby_Unna]

manifold sorted, cut one stub off and rewelded it carefully, now all six are nice and flat to within maybe 1/2 mm, result. exhaust all welded, so just need to bolt all this to the car now...

megasquirt's reading 240rpm when cranking, and it's giving a good spark too which is a good sign.

[bigdek]

get this bad boy fired up m8

[e30_Turbo]

Mines cranks about 230/240 too Toby!

I take it you've gone for MS fully then? no moronic wrongness!

Mark.

[Toby_Unna]

the motronic isn't going near it Mark! i've chopped out the VR sensor wires to mate with the MS, so that loom is beyond it now.

will get the exhaust side built up tomorrow and give it a whirl.

[Andy335Touring]

Cool ! Getting close now !

[gareth]

damn, this is going to be a fearsome machine!!!!!

[Toby_Unna]

well bugger me...

first turn of the key and it bloody runs

needs a little throttle to idle, but revs beautifully and sounds great. dead smooth, dead loud!

can't believe it

will get a vid up soon

[Geeman]

Woo hoo!

Fancy a quick visitor on Saturday...?

[e30_Turbo]

Well done Toby!! easy wasn't it?? lol


*** For all those who care, Toby was a freakin wreck when he called me a min ago, he's proper chuffed! ***

As we all are for you mate!!

Well done Mate!

Mark.

[maxfield]

Sweet get some videos up

[lentec]

Well done mate.
Get some vids up toby

[ed325i]

ED

[Toby_Unna]

cheers all!

still in shock a bit

Giles... going out about 2pm sat til late... anytime before then would be fine!

[Geeman]

In Loughborough for 10.30, so PM me your address and I'll pop down...

[Ziggy]

In Loughborough for 10.30, so PM me your address and I'll pop down...

Can I come too???