obc retrofit problem

Need technical Q/A then you're in the right place

Moderator: martauto

eamo
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 465
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Offaly, Ireland

Post Sat May 27, 2006 5:22 pm

i am retrofitting the 13 button obc into my 320 which i bought the complete kit from here.

with the yellow connector in the back of the speedo, the 2 green connectors in the obc control box and the green connector in the obc itself, i should see uhr on the screen when i turm on the ignition - right?

well no - i get nothing ! any ideas??

have i to install a sperate relay or something in the fuse box??

cheers
smithy318i
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5797
Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Tyne & Wear

Post Sat May 27, 2006 5:30 pm

it should work as soon as you plug the display unit into the instrument cluster.

you might need to check with a multimeter to see if it is getting power.
Image
ed325i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4146
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Sat May 27, 2006 5:34 pm

It could be that its working but the back light is not working so you cant see the display ??

ED
Cabrio
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1031
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Sat May 27, 2006 5:44 pm

Is all the circuit complete...indicator arm...wire plugged into power supply under pass dash...how many spare wires do you have...

As mentioned the backlight could be out but likely you have not plugged all wires into correct location
dodgem
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 212
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Trowbridge, Wiltshire

Post Sat May 27, 2006 6:36 pm

There's only 2 connectors you need to get in, and those are the yellow one into the back of the instrument cluster, and the green one into the back of the obc. With them in place it should work, and if it doesn't then my bet is on the backlight having gone (shine a torch at the screen or wait for the sun to shine on it :roll: whilst the ignition is on). If you can see some lettering that way then it's the backlight, if not then the unit is kapput or the loom has a broken wire in it between cluster and obc.

Simon
ed325i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4146
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Sat May 27, 2006 6:45 pm

A new bulb is only £21.50 from BMW 8O

ED
appletree
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3479
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:00 pm
Location: Retford

Post Sat May 27, 2006 9:36 pm

I got told you could by the bulb for 70p from maplins and solder it in your self.
eamo
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 465
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Offaly, Ireland

Post Sat May 27, 2006 9:43 pm

before i bought the kit i ordered as a precaution the bulb for the back of the obc and the bulbs with the white tray that slides into the side of the obc.

I have now just replaced those 2 items and still no joy.

im confused!!

what fuses/relays control the obc?? maybe its one of them??
eamo
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 465
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Offaly, Ireland

Post Sat May 27, 2006 9:56 pm

just checked fuses 10,12,21,23,27

all are fine.

still confuddled!!
kam-325i
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 4851
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: TELFORD !!!! (Shropshire) Stevetigger Land !!!

Post Sat May 27, 2006 10:11 pm

What about the single wire that goes into the dist block behind the glove box, and the earth near the block ?
Pete don't care about colour, He would shag a rainbow if he could find the end of it....
Image
eamo
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 465
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Offaly, Ireland

Post Sat May 27, 2006 10:24 pm

even though you dont need to connect them i did anyway and still nothing
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49360
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Sat May 27, 2006 11:14 pm

The only wiring an OBC needs for most functions to work is the connection to the OBC itself (obviously), and the yellow plug to be plugged into the cluster.
User avatar
AndrewL
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 158
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:00 pm

Post Sat May 27, 2006 11:35 pm

If you are sure the OBC is a working one (are you?) the only thing you need is the harness to the cluster and the brown wire earth connection to the earthing post behind the glovebox (or anywhere really).

You should be able to test the OBC backlights with a coupla wires and a battery.

BTW, does your post imply you have a spare tray for the OBC backlight? I am looking for one and would offer to rewire and supply you with guaranteed working backlights if you have a spare tray you can let me have/sell me.

Andy Lee
User avatar
AndrewL
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 158
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:00 pm

Post Sat May 27, 2006 11:39 pm

PS somebody did have a problem with one of the pins on the cluster plug getting displaced and not making proper contact (although unless you are very unlucky that only oughta kill only one display function).

Try pulling the plug and checking all the pins are in place and evenly lined up. Maybe spray a little contact fluid.

Andy
Cabrio
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1031
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:00 pm

Post Sun May 28, 2006 11:11 am

If you have fitted the plug to the back of the clocks and the module is installed above ecu and plug is in back of obc...then rest of loom is attached as indicted all wires under passenger dash inc earth, fuses all checked nothing left but test obc to see if plug is getting power..then you know if the unit has a potential fault..without seeing what you have done or not done with wiring hard to offer definitive advice