Number plate anti-camera spray

[NIX]

Anyone know whether the stuff you can buy to spray on number plates to stop speed cameras working out whats on your number plate, actually works??

Cheers!

Nick

[massive]

Ive heard they dont work

[dazleeds]

yeah i heard they were useless too

cameras are far too good now nowdays to be fooled by sprays
plus i think the old bill will nick ya if they notice it on plate

get a tvr and do 186 past one that works

[paulg390]

I can confirm this as I bought a can of the stuff commonly for sale at shows etc, got it home, sprayed my plate 5 or 6 times as per the instructions and some more. Then I took a picture with my camera with a flash at gatso type angles and I could read the plate easily ! Complete waste of money !
So spend your money on a GPS detector instead, imho... this weeks Autoexpress has some recommended for under a ton.

[AndyTouring]

Indeed they don't work & sorry but frankly you'd have to believe in fairies to think they would.

A further deterrent. My brother who's a traffic cop says most cops would do you on principle if they caught you trying such a scam on the basis of "why should you be above the law?" At least a GPS locator will warn you of the camera/black spot & allow you to stay within the law

Why not just accept that there's a reason for the camera & speed limit (whether or not you agree with it) & slow down? (Says the man with 3 points )

[Quaser]

tesco's have one for £69.97!

gps version too!!!

Q

[Morat]

Move to North Yorkshire! No speed cameras at all, and lots of lovely back roads

[NIX]

Thanks guys, it was actually my boss who was interested to know whether it worked, and I told him I knew just the place where I could find out/or atleast get some valuable opinions on this so thanks very much!

However, he did show me a pic of his porsche 996 911 (just one of his cars!) which had come from the factory with some sort of sheen over the number plate, and in fact the photo did not show any numbers or figures, just a yellow plate, with some very faint white outlines of where the numbers and figures should be in black.

Nick

[AndyTouring]

996 911? tell him he'll be fine & to go for it!

[Davenotouring]

My brother who's a traffic cop says most cops would do you on principle if they caught you trying such a scam on the basis of "why should you be above the law?"

Shame they (sorry most of them) don't live by the same principle.

[ian332isport]

My brother who's a traffic cop says most cops would do you on principle if they caught you trying such a scam on the basis of "why should you be above the law?"

Shame they (sorry most of them) don't live by the same principle.

My thoughts exactly

Nevermind, just tell them you just got the car and where 'gaining familiarity with the vehicle'. Seems to be a perfectly valid reason for a copper to drive at 159mph on the M54 and get away with it so should be okay for the rest of us as well

[AndyTouring]

My brother who's a traffic cop says most cops would do you on principle if they caught you trying such a scam on the basis of "why should you be above the law?"

Shame they (sorry most of them) don't live by the same principle.

Too true but that's human nature for you.

Brother says nicking speeders is just too easy. He preferred to nick chavs without tax & insurance. He would generally just give speeders a bollicking unless they were stroppy or really taking the piss with the speed limit.

On a philosophical note, since police officers are drawn from our society any moral failings they may have is a reflection on our society as a whole.

[WerkdE30]

speed cameras are for government revenue they have absolutely no affect on road tolls. here they reduced the speed by 10 kmhs in side streets then started putting cameras there where they didnt before and removed the camera buffer of 10kms. they didnt used to go off until u went ten k's over the limit. ADR's state that a brand new roadworthy speedo can have be up to 10kmh's higher or lower than actual speed. but they will fine you for being 3 kmh over??? and now we have private contractors. fat peices of shit who sit in theyr car all day reading the paper and drinking coffee. ... this is what we call a "job" now days.... i call this sitting on ya fat ass and leaching off the common working man.

oh yeah u can get number plate covers that do actually work im told.
The spray on shit is bogus tho.


"He would generally just give speeders a bollicking unless they were stroppy"

The "Bill" sound a lot more reasonable than our lot.

[mrLEE30]

ha thats nothing, when i drive from Khobar to Riyadh , which is a straight road accross Saudi Arabia, 450km there is a speed check about half way. the radar system there is unique, he sits in his car and watches you drive past, if he is awake he calls his buddies who are sitting a couple of km down the road where they stop you and inform you what speed you were going at! great system, totally fool proof, no sprays, covers ect can fool it. even with my cruise control at 120kmh i was ticketed at 165kmh. spot on!

however the fine paying system is flawed, you can pay him on the spot about 20quid but you dont get a receipt

loverly job!

mrlee

[bmwe30mtech]

Hi, I got some low contrast number plates (the white is dirty, and black isnt definate). They arnt meant to be, they were on ebay listed as 'made from the top quality materials' lol. I also sprayed silicone spray all over them and i dont know if they work but i have done 90 though a camera and not got done . Problem is if they catch the headlights of a police car , i already get enough attention from cops as it is driving ym car and at my age.

[AndyTouring]

i have done 90 though a camera and not got done . Problem is if they catch the headlights of a police car , i already get enough attention from cops as it is driving ym car and at my age.

The objective of speed cameras is to force drivers to slow down to the speed limit. That speed limit is set for a reason, an accident black spot, a hidden junction whatever. Whether or not you agree with the speed limit is immaterial. It's not speed but inappropriate speed that's the danger.

The problem occurs when some young tosser thinks his driving skills are so high he can ignore such limits (like doing 90mph past them). Spraying his no. plates only underlines his arrogance.

Statistically in the time it's taken to write this post one under 25 arsehole has found he isn't as talented as he thought. With luck he's only killed himself, but it could have been your wife/girlfriend etc. that he's taken out on the way.

If you want to go fast do it on a closed track. Risking other peoples safety isn't big or clever.

[bmwe30mtech]

i have done 90 though a camera and not got done . Problem is if they catch the headlights of a police car , i already get enough attention from cops as it is driving ym car and at my age.

The objective of speed cameras is to force drivers to slow down to the speed limit. That speed limit is set for a reason, an accident black spot, a hidden junction whatever. Whether or not you agree with the speed limit is immaterial. It's not speed but inappropriate speed that's the danger.

The problem occurs when some young tosser thinks his driving skills are so high he can ignore such limits (like doing 90mph past them). Spraying his no. plates only underlines his arrogance.

Statistically in the time it's taken to write this post one under 25 arsehole has found he isn't as talented as he thought. With luck he's only killed himself, but it could have been your wife/girlfriend etc. that he's taken out on the way.

If you want to go fast do it on a closed track. Risking other peoples safety isn't big or clever.

Point well made, people driving dangerously especially with others arround pisses me off, if people want to risk their lives thats up to them, but others lives is not something they should risk. Get your facts right before going off at me like that ok? It was a totally empty road in the early hours, 2 lane road, and nobody was arround. You telling me you never done 90? E30 speedos over read by about 10% anyway, so it was about 80 in reality. As for the spray, i was doing the area arround the back of my plate, and it got over the plate and i never took it off. Ok so far? So as for dangerous driving i dont do it, i am sensible, and not a t*sser as you have implied above.

Just clearing up that im not a 't*sser' or dangerous driver who tries to be 'big or clever'.

Paul

[bmwe30mtech]

996 911? tell him he'll be fine & to go for it!

Does this mean he is 'above the law'? Because he drives a porsche?

Thats not very moral or fair. I have seen some bad porsche drivers arround.

[bmwe30mtech]

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On a philosophical note, since police officers are drawn from our society any moral failings they may have is a reflection on our society as a whole. [/quote]

I dont think that is justifiable. Surely they are not a entirly reflective sample of society, and furthmore they undergo training to beomce police officers. We dont say when a doctor (for example) makes a mistake 'this is a reflection of our society as a whole', just because they have been drawn from society? People undergo training for specific jobs, so as to loose any bias picked up from their society, and learn how to do that job properly, it would be otherwise unfair, and illogical.

[dark_sounds]

AndyTouring, i can assure you, for your peace of mind, that paul is not a dangerous driver,,, he shits himself at the idea of cock action

on a more serious note, he did not state whether it was in a 30 zone or not, just merely 90 mph. on a motorway?? dual carrage way?? this is not overly excessive.

i think u will find it very hard indeed to find someone who sticks to the limit constantly, or does not indeed give the occasional boot around.

otherwise we will all be driving 316 for daily use.....

think you came on a bit hard, thats all.. i do no doubt agree with you with respects to dangerious driving, your points are well made, and indeeed no way understated,, just give him a break ;)

[bmwe30mtech]

Cheers Ali, it was on the M25 on the way home from ace that i didnt notice the camera in time.

Paul

[AndyTouring]

Get your facts right before going off at me like that ok? It was a totally empty road in the early hours, 2 lane road, and nobody was arround. You telling me you never done 90? E30 speedos over read by about 10% anyway, so it was about 80 in reality.

What facts? You've only just stated it was a two lane road. Totally empty? How do you know what was round the next bend? Was it lit? Why do think there was a speed camera there? A junction or a dip in the road perhaps. Speed camera locations aren't just random. I expect your indicated "90mph" was probably nearer to 80mph which, with the 10% error was probably why the camera didn't flash.

90mph on a sparsely populated motorway during the day is not the same as 90mph at night on a two lane road with E30 headlights! What range do they have? At that speed you wouldn't have time to even register something in front of you before you hit it. Part of the (2 lane) A1 near me has had to have slip roads & an under pass added because people kept crashing into cars joining from a junction. As I said, appropriate speed. Still think you aren't dangerous?

As for the spray, i was doing the area arround the back of my plate, and it got over the plate and i never took it off. Ok so far?

That wasn't what you said or implied. You said,"I also sprayed silicone spray all over them and i dont know if they work". The only meaning that can be deduced from that statement was a deliberate attempt to disguise your registration.

As for the Porsche post, I intended it to mean let the bugger think he's immune & watch the camera flash. I apologise for not being clearer.

I stand by my remarks about speed cameras. They are there for a reason but it would serve the public better if those reasons were made clear rather than just stick a camera there for no apparent purpose.
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[bmwe30mtech]

Get your facts right before going off at me like that ok? It was a totally empty road in the early hours, 2 lane road, and nobody was arround. You telling me you never done 90? E30 speedos over read by about 10% anyway, so it was about 80 in reality.

What facts? You've only just stated it was a two lane road. Totally empty? How do you know what was round the next bend? Was it lit? Why do think there was a speed camera there? A junction or a dip in the road perhaps. Speed camera locations aren't just random. I expect your indicated "90mph" was probably nearer to 80mph which, with the 10% error was probably why the camera didn't flash.

90mph on a sparsely populated motorway during the day is not the same as 90mph at night on a two lane road with E30 headlights! What range do they have? At that speed you wouldn't have time to even register something in front of you before you hit it. Part of the (2 lane) A1 near me has had to have slip roads & an under pass added because people kept crashing into cars joining from a junction. As I said, appropriate speed. Still think you aren't dangerous?

As for the spray, i was doing the area arround the back of my plate, and it got over the plate and i never took it off. Ok so far?

That wasn't what you said or implied. You said,"I also sprayed silicone spray all over them and i dont know if they work". The only meaning that can be deduced from that statement was a deliberate attempt to disguise your registration.

As for the Porsche post, I intended it to mean let the bugger think he's immune & watch the camera flash. I apologise for not being clearer.

I stand by my remarks about speed cameras. They are there for a reason but it would serve the public better if those reasons were made clear rather than just stick a camera there for no apparent purpose.
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Maybe facts is the wrong word, i appologise, but you are jumping to conclusions. There were no tight bends in the road, it was the M25, so this does not have sharp corners on it, and yes it is lit, so i could see a long way ahead. Do you enjoy making this such an issue? Clearly you have had a bad experience or something at some time, and i appreciate that will leave you warey, and eager to point out potentioal problems to others that you may have encountered yourself driving. We are all inheritanly dangerous, so yes, i am, i never said im totally safe, i stated im not excessivly dangerous. And i wasnt driving down the A1, so what does that matter?

As for the plates, it does sound like i did spray it on purpose, this is unintened, i was spraying my tech 2 kit to make it look shiney, and the plates got done also, then reading this i later deduced that the spray must have worked, not that that was the intention, but merely an outcome.

Thanks for your concern about my driving home from ace, appreciated.

Paul

[AndyTouring]

Point taken Ali. But I responded to what was actually posted. If I was hard it was because of the (perceived) tone of the post. A cousin of mine was killed at an early age when a "boy racer" with more ambition than talent lost it on a corner so I have little time for some of the bravado that crops up from time to time on this forum.

I'll admit I'm no angel (having 3 points for coasting down hill @ 38mph in a 30 limit) but I've managed to have an accident free driving career for 32 year (come October). Yes, I speed but with regard to the conditions. Stirling Moss once defined dangerous speed as 40mph in a 35mph corner!

[bmwe30mtech]

Point taken Ali. But I responded to what was actually posted. If I was hard it was because of the (perceived) tone of the post. A cousin of mine was killed at an early age when a "boy racer" with more ambition than talent lost it on a corner so I have little time for some of the bravado that crops up from time to time on this forum.

I'll admit I'm no angel (having 3 points for coasting down hill @ 38mph in a 30 limit) but I've managed to have an accident free driving career for 32 year (come October). Yes, I speed but with regard to the conditions. Stirling Moss once defined dangerous speed as 40mph in a 35mph corner!

Point taken Andy, and appreciated. Im just not a boy racer. One of my friends cousins was permanently put in a wheel chair due to somebody elses stupid driving. It is sad, and i agree there are too many chavs with little talent and big egos out there.

Paul

[bmwe30mtech]

I have little time for some of the bravado that crops up from time to time on this forum.

That description does not fit me, nor is it my intention for my posts to come across that way.

[mrLEE30]

why is it that people get so annoyed when another zoner lets them know their thoughts on their excessive speed on public roads?

i had a simliar responce on another thread regarding high speeds and public roads when i indicated that the person concerned was in the wrong.

my opinion is there is no safe time to drive fast on public roads, but true that some times are less unsafe than others, and yes i do break the speed limit at i time and place that i consider less unsafe, my main concern is not what you can control but what you cannot control, that is others and even at 2 am on the M25 you may encounter a drunk idiot dirinv with no lights on etc etc etc.

You may be interested to know that i have been a trackday instructor for two years now, and a regular raceer of Caterhams here in Bahrain. Not trying to be a clever dick here or bragg about my driving skills, in fact quite to opposite, i have been on track days with others who think they can drive, and with a carpark full of M3 CSL, 911, lambos, ferraris you name it, and I would have to belive them, but when it comes to driving on a track i have only had a handful of good drivers, and they would not even touch the driving skills of my fellow (amateur) circuit racers. the rest are a complete disaster waiting to happen. these drivers are the 90% that you may come accross.

so in a round about way my point is this, you are never as good a driver as you think, so when someone else lets you know that they think speeding is wrong on the public road dont react negatively, they break the speed limit as did you, take their comments in a positive light it just may save your life one day when doing 90mph and you decide to slow down for a second when you remember Andytourings comments.

my soap box whine over, anyone in the middle east (Bahrain) who fancies a go on an F1 track let me know, i will arrange it. but no speeding in the pit lane!

mrlee

[d6dph]

Going back to the original post, is it not classed as fraud. You are knowingly going to put a product on the vehicle to evade prosecution?

[dark_sounds]

Andy and Paul ,

lets just leave it,,

To Andy - i fully respect your comments, and understand where your coming from, though can assure paul is not a risk taker, you miss understood him and laid in harsh,, but with the misunderstanding, is justified.

Paul - chill, those who know you will know ur not a prick of a driver. he misunderstood you.

as for considering it fraud, personally i wouldnt do it, just incase, and i dont see the "real" need to.

[bmwe30mtech]

why is it that people get so annoyed when another zoner lets them know their thoughts on their excessive speed on public roads?

not getting at your all all MrLee, a very valied post . I wasnt anoyed at his comments so much as his calling me a tosser!

[NIX]

Right well I hadn't checked this post for a while but there's been some action it seems!!

Glad you guys sorted things out. My personal opinion is much the same as what everyones said here already. I reckon I probably used to be one of those teenage drivers who'd just got his first car and thought he was nigel mansel or michael knight. Then I wrote the car off, by taking a bend too quickly and fixing my beloved mazda 323 'javelin' (oooohh) onto a post. It wasn't a major major crash but either way, fortunately no one was hurt, and was exactly what I needed to tell me too slow down at the cost of nothing but metal.
I have since being paying insurance out of my arse (was 18 going on 19 when I crashed), but have managed to gain 4 years no claims bonus as of a few days ago and have no points (touch wood).

Back to the number plate stuff. Thanks all for your comments, including the views on speeding and that. I told my boss last week what you guys thought and he thought that it was probably unlikely too. He's already got one of those tracker thingys also. However he also told me that he's now thinkin of sellin his 996 and gettin a 997 turbo instead.....

Cheers!

Nick

[mrLEE30]

not getting at your all all MrLee, a very valied post . I wasnt anoyed at his comments so much as his calling me a tosser!

sorry didnt see the name calling! let just all be !!!

i did call the zoner on the post i was referring to a pratt but we are all good buddies now!!

internet forums gotta love em!!

mrlee

[bmwe30mtech]

not getting at your all all MrLee, a very valied post . I wasnt anoyed at his comments so much as his calling me a tosser!

sorry didnt see the name calling! let just all be !!!

i did call the zoner on the post i was referring to a pratt but we are all good buddies now!!

internet forums gotta love em!!

mrlee

[fuzzy]

everyone knows that speeding is dangerous and not big or clever.every one of us has done it at some point.if you say you havent i say your a liar,but it gets on my nerves more when self righteous smug folk jump down the throats of someone posting something regarding speeding as if they themselves are superior in some way to the masses.i do speed at times,but i dont take risks imo.if i get caught i dont complain or try to dodge it,if you cant do the time dont do the crime

[japcarkiller]

i'm gone be the devils advocated here. every crash that i have been involved in i have been going under the speed limit.
1. Hit from behinde on a straight road whilst i waited to turn right. it was day light and i had my indercater on. I was even flashing my break lights.
over 2 years on and my girlsfriend still has neck touble.
the driver of the other car was getting her phone from her foot well when i walk over.was she using her phone instead of looking at the road. She wasn't speeding though.

2. i hit a deer very early in the morning on a straight road whilst doing 50mph. it was mental. clear road taking it easy then whammo. flying deer dead car dieing deer. no speeding involved.

3. my beloved e30 325isport i called her baby. Was T-boned parked at the side of the road. i was in bed at the time.The police believe speed was not an issue.

so its just people that are the problem.ermmmm and deer.
three unspeed related crashes.
a large part of my job is driving and i find the worst offenders are the 40-50mph possy. They never slow down for 30mph speed limits just carry on at 40-50mph .They don't use thier mirrors and just pull out into traffic when it suites them.Causing the car doing 80-90 to hit the back of them.so its a speed related crash. nothing to do with the lack of mirror use or poor judgement of speed.

speed isn't a killer tossers Are. fast or slow its still just tossers.