Ant's chips

[Wilson325i]

not long ago (30mins) took a drive down to ants place and he fitted a chip to my tech 1, and all i have to say is ooooooh yeah if you dnt have one go get one. boy does she go .BBTB here i come.lol

P.S ant what a nice guy, also told me quit a lot about my car, also told me a little trick/secret that you can do to your m20 that most people have no fcuking clue about

i wont tell (ask him yourself), i will let the man take the credit for it, but it is worth it and it costs nothing to do. and he also has some work to do to my car

[Widge]

Oh go on, not even a little clue what the trick is?????
Oh go on you know you want to. I promise I can keep a secret Go on send me a PM
Sounds like the sort of thing I would do, free!!!!
The best price really.
I've got a zone chip and a BBTB and I can say they are two of the best parts I have ever bought, have transformed the car, I think an M30 AFM is the next step.

[dazleeds]

did someone say trick and free in the same sentence

c,mon ant
reveal yourself

and spread the word on this little trick of yours

[Theo]

Right think ive got to get one of these chips, after yet another glowing reference! Especailly if there is a free trick that come with it!!

[Ant]

My pleasure Wilson

got me out from under that POS E38 too, bonus !

[Widge]

Cummon ant what's this trick, I'm expecting somthing good from you, none of this AFM spring bending stuff................
You know you want to tell us.

[Ant]

OK, I'll give you a clue, most will have done this little mod already I hope.

The trick is related to air density, involves no wiring mods or anything like that.

1st prize goes too..........

[Widge]

..........................................cold air induction??????????????

[oguz327]

Is it turning one of the screws in the ECU box so many clicks?

Havnt done it my self but heard about it

[oguz327]

not long ago (30mins) took a drive down to ants place and he fitted a chip to my tech 1, and all i have to say is ooooooh yeah if you dnt have one go get one. boy does she go .BBTB here i come.lol

P.S ant what a nice guy, also told me quit a lot about my car, also told me a little trick/secret that you can do to your m20 that most people have no fcuking clue about

i wont tell (ask him yourself), i will let the man take the credit for it, but it is worth it and it costs nothing to do. and he also has some work to do to my car

Glad you got the chip sorted dude, i was well pleased with mine.
Along with a BBTB mine flys now, it a great mod, anyone who hasnt got one should get and order one

[Ant]

..........................................cold air induction??????????????

Close, very very close.

[Simon]

..........................................cold air induction??????????????

Close, very very close.

Pack the airbox full of ice cubes!!

[Widge]

Well it can't be fooling the ECU like those cheap chips that just make it over fuel, that's too crap for an Ant fix, it's not removing the water heating from the TB is it? Cos that would make the TB run at the same temp as the engine and the air would be less dense, etc etc...Oh I get it, a Bloody GREAT BIG TURBO That'll make the air denser

[Ant]

it's not removing the water heating from the TB is it? Cos that would make the TB run at the same temp as the engine and the air would be less dense

you got it, easy wasn't it

removing the hot plate feeds does reduce intake air temps and result in a cooler denser mix being drawn, I've tested this with an IAT in the intake runners, worth the 10 minutes tweaking all day long

Even with a massive interccoler you'd be hard pushed to get the intake temp on a turbo'd ride down to ambient, believe me I've tried

[toby]

This has no adverse effects then?

[Widge]

Wot cold start injector?



I thought so Ant, my BBTB came without the relevant pipes, so I'm sure that helped it make the car feel much faster! Good cheap mod. What's the disadvantage though? Takes longer to get up to operating temp? Bad idea presumibly if you live in siberia The germans you have to love them they cover every eventuality

[d6dph]

Any chance on doing a little write up on whats required to do this Ant? please

[Widge]

TB MOD

1. Remove water pipes from TB.
2. Join Pipes with a suitable piece of non ferrous pipe of the correct diamiter with jubilee clips.
3. block holes on TB with bungs stolen from the chemistry block heald in with chewing gum or similar.
4. Never change gear till the red line is reached.

[d6dph]

damn, time to go and pull a school girl.

**pulls up in the e30**

"hello luv, can i see your bungs"

"DAD, nasty old man is chatting me up"

[oguz327]

Awsome, did this make much difference on an M20?

[dazleeds]

ok re the non ferrous

whats the internal diameter of the pipe ??

im up for trying a free mod

[Widge]

damn, time to go and pull a school girl.

**pulls up in the e30**

"hello luv, can i see your bungs"

"DAD, nasty old man is chatting me up"

FPMSL
ROFL

Made me laugh this much!

[Widge]

The pipe is about the size of one of those pipes that comes out of the throttle body....................

About the same size as the oil dip stick pipe, I just happened to have one to hand at the time and it got butchered, and I know it's not non ferrous, it has been replaced with a bit of aluminium tent pole.

[d6dph]

damn, time to go and pull a school girl.

**pulls up in the e30**

"hello luv, can i see your bungs"

"DAD, nasty old man is chatting me up"

FPMSL
ROFL

Made me laugh this much!

Yeah i laughed, Her dad didnt.

Going back to the subject in hand.
1) the bungs, are they just to stop any crap getting into those holes? can i use wiring grommets?

2) id it important to get a thin walled connector? I have a box of Gates hose connectors at work but they are a little thick, is this going to cause any problems?

[Widge]

Use the hoze connectors they'll be fine.
And the holes don't really need bungine or anything. You can just unscrew the whole bit where the hoses go in and get rid of it.
I may stand corrected though as mine came ready done.

[Wilson325i]

haha! so it has been revealed (sp) wow, good at least i dnt have to try and explain it on here

i rather open the bonnet and show you what has to be done and what goes where.

widge, you are doing a good job of explaining it.

[Ant]

the bungs, are they just to stop any crap getting into those holes?

yep, and tidy it up a bit.

TBH I just leave them there, in all their naked glory

no downside in our climate, temts me into trying those new Ferriday thermal gaskets, Hmmm....... more spanner time

[toby]

Nice one - Widge should get a prize!

I wish I'd known about this a few years ago as I replaced all this stuff for new as it was leaking water.

cheers
toby

[Widge]

Free M/S ................

[stevetigger]

Any good on the M50?

[toby]

Any good on the M50?

http://www.e36coupe.com/products/bbtb/tb.htm

[stevetigger]

Thats the plan anyways, I meant the blocking of the water pipes?

[Lordschleife]

Whoa parallel thread weirdness
http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... ic&t=34289

Ant, WTF is the story with the 318is chips in the zone shop?

[Geeman]

I did this on my 318iS track car too... took out the water heated sandwich plate and re-routed all the water pipes to miss out loads of crap bends too, so it went straight back into the cylinder head. Easy enough job, but taking off the inlet manifold made it so much easier. I was replacing all the air pipes at the same time, so it made sense to kill two birds...

Oh, and I also fitted a BBTB, full stainless, K&N induction with cold air pipe and a chip at the same time. Difference was interesting!

[charlE30]

For anyone considering this little mod Focus sell 10mm straight brass couplers (found in the plumbing section) for £1.79 and use a bit of old hose looped around to bung the holes on the TB

No prizes for guessing what I've just done