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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:13 pm

what springs and shocks will provide me up to 40mm drop alround and are better then Mtech ones from the IS???

also not too expensive please
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:18 pm

if you go on www.motorsportworld.co.uk/com there loads on here and seem to be slightly cheaper than anywhere else. i think the basic spax kit is Ԛ£250 might be cheaper. also i hear eurocarparts are quite cheap. it also depends what you want from your suspension. i dont know about the mtech kit im sure someone will be able to fill you in on this.
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:29 pm

dark_sounds wrote:what springs and shocks will provide me up to 40mm drop alround and are better then Mtech ones from the IS???

also not too expensive please
http://www.c3bmw.co.uk/
is pretty near you - near crystal palace in annerley.

Ԛ“H & RԚâ€a sport kits offer a 15 Ԛ—a20mm lowering from standard set up.
Reduce lateral roll, diminish spring compression during acceleration and are excellent when combined with Ԛ“BILSTEINԚâ€a sport dampers.

Ԛ£570 all in rough price (?)

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although the zone prices take some beating!!
everyone raves about the H&R Cup Kit - 60/40 but 60 is maybe too low for you. for decent shocks and springs there is little to compare in terms of price especially when you consider that (apparently) it uses bilstein shocks - which on their own cost loads...

how about c3 H&R springs and their best shocks - probabaly BOGE?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:38 pm

H&R springs are (apparently) harder than APEX springs - and they were pretty hard in my opinion...

How much are looking to spend??
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:40 pm

not as much as youve put lol meh
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:41 pm

The Bilstien E30 M3 shocks are very good but not cheap at about Ԛ£120ish a side from C3, but you only get what you pay for. As far as my experience goes Boge springs are crap (on the 4th set now due to them calapsing on the rears), and I can't help thinking their shocks probably aren't that much better. On the other hand I have only heard Good things about the H&R cup kit so maybe this is the way to go? (Not sure which shocks these use?)

Am I right in thinking that Bilstien have a lifetime guaranty on them?

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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:43 pm

As andy says bilstein sports dampers are the way to go, about 90 quid a corner i think but lifetime warranty, compatible with any spring, and self reset on bump of something like that

simon swears buy them!

and ian haynes uses them and look at his motor!

as for springs mate HnR are the way to go!
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:50 pm

Am I right in thinking that Bilstien have a lifetime guaranty on them?

Andy[/quote]

I have heard this too M5Pilot is the more qualified man to answer this question I think.

BOGE were standard shocks on some BMWs so I doubt they are terrible quality
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:09 pm

90 quid a corner, right a corner a month,, and eventually ill have some shocks,, then i need the springs lol

how do the mtech springs and shocks fair? the ones already in there,, they not bad eh?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:10 pm

toby wrote: BOGE were standard shocks on some BMWs so I doubt they are terrible quality
Exactly my point :) Have you ever driven a standard E30 with any power to it? The 2.8 feels like like a shed on wheels with the standard suspension :lol:

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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:33 pm

dark_sounds wrote:90 quid a corner, right a corner a month,, and eventually ill have some shocks,, then i need the springs lol

how do the mtech springs and shocks fair? the ones already in there,, they not bad eh?
buying the shocks all at once from teh zone shop will save a considerable amount...

Agreed Andy BOGE aren't the greatest but mr dark-sounds is going for cheap and he's only got the 318is so not huge speeds involved (no disrespect ali mate!)
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:39 pm

lol non taken, tbh i think the suspension business all a bit expensive for now,,, maybe during summer wheni get a job

cheers for the input anyway :)
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:49 pm

dark_sounds wrote:lol non taken, tbh i think the suspension business all a bit expensive for now,,, maybe during summer wheni get a job

cheers for the input anyway :)
what about H&R anti roll bar Ԛ£250 and leave shocks/springs until shocks leek/ need changing?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:04 pm

lol even 250 is alot at this time,, argh
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:59 pm

Sounds like a good plan, unless your current ones are that shagg*d :) Far better to get the best you can, rather than but cr*p and have to live with it. Bilstiens will make you smile every time you drive it :D


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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:08 pm

toby wrote:Agreed Andy BOGE aren't the greatest but mr dark-sounds is going for cheap and he's only got the 318is so not huge speeds involved (no disrespect ali mate!)
But an iS is all about carrying speed through the corners, cause it doesnt have much power (and also better turn in than the 6pots)

Gotta keep up the momentum

Who made the shocks on the 318is out of interest bilstien?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:57 pm

Lordschleife wrote:
Who made the shocks on the 318is out of interest bilstien?
Boge mate im 99%
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:12 pm

Yeah just looked on real oem - says BOGE GAS
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:14 pm

boge gas are m-tech shocks

the shocks they are talking about are bilstein sport sprints

u would be better off with the normal sports, just get the shorter ones.

Have u thought about boge -40 springs from gsf. Soft ride so i'm told

H&R are very good and the ride is if anything a touch better than m-tech. (35-mm)

My alpina is on these now so if u want a look u can see it at Ace Lee
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:17 pm

Mine will also be on 35mm HnR springs buy then too
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:23 pm

318-is wrote:Mine will also be on 35mm HnR springs buy then too
be interested to see how much lower than mine that looks, as mine seems about 10mm lower than std mtech???
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:25 pm

it could be if u have saggy old springs robin! I think my alpina was on m-tech springs, i thought it sat way too high!
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:27 pm

Robisn IS was deffo lower than mine at guildford, but then again mines on 16s his wasnt?

will be interesting to see

O/T you going to ace robin?

simon i take it the 60/40 council drop didnt go on the alpina then?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:30 pm

Simon13 wrote:it could be if u have saggy old springs robin! I think my alpina was on m-tech springs, i thought it sat way too high!
Could well be! Mine was def about 10mm lower than Dans 318is

I think the ride height looks just right though on mine, I dont like em too low. Thats why I want to compare the 35mm drop as I want to replace the springs/shocks at some point in the (distant) future.

If it looks too low for me then I hear bilstein do a 25mm drop spring/shocks kit.
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:31 pm

those springs are still on my old sport along with all the other mods it had lol

i might try them, but rubbing issues on the rear, and that bastard low front spoiler could stop me. I get the feeling i wouldn't get it out of my road cos of the speed humps!
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:32 pm

i heard that 60/40 jeprodises handling? or is it noticably better?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:41 pm

are u being funny now?

better than 35's. But not by alot, i'm not sure the trade off in ride and practicality is worth it. It's only cos your lower to the road, centre of gravity and less body roll inspires more confidence. I'm sure when the car breaks though u would be going silly quick and dying in the process!
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:47 pm

billies with proper springs, H+R / or the ones supplied by ECP in the street/sprint line kits. got them on the 316 and the IS

konis are ok, but a bit oo harsh for the roads??
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:47 pm

:lol:

i think il stick with 35mm then!

Ali any decisions?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:52 pm

don't get me wrong i love the low, look.

35mm drop looks nice/good

60mm phat!

if we had no speed humps, kerbs and good roads which were 100% flat everywhere we could all drive around in low slung, g-unit, gansta cars from the factory.........or move to Holland anyone?
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:54 pm

BLAP BLAP!
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Post Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:56 pm

Hollands full of caravans!

And hump bridges over cannals

And bloody tram tracks if you're stupid enough to try driving in amsterdam!
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Post Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:56 am

Kos wrote:billies with proper springs, H+R / or the ones supplied by ECP in the street/sprint line kits. got them on the 316 and the IS

konis are ok, but a bit oo harsh for the roads??
kos has a good pint here.
"The Bilstein Streetline Suspension Kits Product code: BSK116
Bilstein Streetline Suspension Kit. Lowers by 40mm approx.
The Streetline kit consists of four Original Equipment (OE) Spec Bilstein Gas shock absorbers complete with lowered sports springs. This Entry-Level kit proves very good value for money. Ԛ£207.00 (inc VAT)"
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/ ... ml?id=2966


Can you use the Bilstein Streetline Suspension kit on a touring ??- I'm assuming you can't
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Post Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:30 pm

I am having the Bilstein Sprintline kit fitted to my cab at the moment. Supposedly a 40mm drop all round.

These feature the uprated shortened dampers.

The kit cost cԚ£340. Can't tell you what the car is like yet as it is still at the garage.
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Post Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:52 pm

im getting confused,,, so hnr springs seem to be popping up andi like a good "soft" ride, so thats cool... hnr springs.... what shocks though?? bilstiens?

how much we looking at? dan u not selling ur springs anymore?> winkeye