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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:30 pm

I've just joined the Holset club!!

I have purchased a H1C from a truck, I know you lot will love that!
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(fit by cummins to 6bta 5.9l cummins )

But which external WG to use? 38mm sounds good, but will it be big enough?

Thanks, Mark
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:03 pm

OH YES!!

my WG's 50mm which i'm told should be big enough

what style exhaust inlet flange does that thing use?
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:06 pm

Toby_Unna wrote:OH YES!!

my WG's 50mm which i'm told should be big enough

what style exhaust inlet flange does that thing use?
T3, which is handy :D

And what type WG and where from and how much???? please :cool:
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:24 pm

You boost junkie, I hope that was from a BMW truck! Anyway good luck mate, it looks just a bit smaller that a dustbin in the photo, do you think it'll fit!
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:41 pm

you nutter :cool: r u gonna have it running in time for LPS mate i might come up and watch if thats alright mate
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:04 pm

Mark, a cheap nasty one from the states. will dig out a pic when i find one, (think there's one in the 1st few pages of my thread) but it's from SSautochrome, cost about $150 shipped and came with flanges, atmo dump pipe, and about 6 different boost springs
sounds a bit cheap to me. but the quality seems ok and it should get me going.

T3 :cool:
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:43 pm

I love the title, STAGE 2, reminds me of looking at jdturbochargings site all those years ago(well about a year and a half).

It is going to be a beast, when i saw Gcorky advertising this, i thought, hmm thats perfect, but i have just comitted to buy a 200sx so couldn't justify the labour or the extra parts needed. How much did you part for one of these lovely holset items if you don't mind me asking.

So is this turbo the one thats going to let you pull 15psi all the way to redline in fifth :eek: :twisted:
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:23 pm

That looks good its just like a HX35, what size turbine housing does it have?

Heres my baby

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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:14 pm

now will u r a 30tech regular arnt ya !!!hic is predessesor to hx35 according to that site.so prob will look familiar. 8)
should of took a piccy of my t3 hybrid next to this ,does look dwarfed!!!!

dodge ram used this powerplant too!
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:18 pm

:lol: I dropped Will a PM the pther day via e30tech, told him we need some input from a "royal elite" club member :cool:

Will, cheers for the info you sent me BTW :wink:
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Post Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:12 pm

ant wrote::lol: I dropped Will a PM the pther day via e30tech, told him we need some input from a "royal elite" club member :cool:

Will, cheers for the info you sent me BTW :wink:
Hey np, you found one yet?, 16cm housing on fozzys, very nice.

gcorky: yeah i check e30tech everyday for iXer's posts, love reading what he has to say.
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:32 am

Just bought the WG, TIAL 38mm, LOVELY!!

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Not cheap but should do the job!!

Bring on next week!! :woohoo:
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:35 am

good effort!

found that pic of mine...

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i'm sure i'll regret buying it sooner or later. large and cheap is never a good combo :roll:
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:36 am

What is your target boost Fozzy? Or will it just go up and up, and how many BHP do you recon your going to get?
Whaen will you be satisfied!!!!???
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:05 pm

Toby, bring it along on Tuesday mate, looks like I'll be there aswell!!

Widge, yanks are telling me I should see around 350rwhp with this turbo, so 400+ at the crank, but as you say, if it holds together it can obviously hold more!!! LOL!!

Top target 20psi, mine is seeing 15psi now and loves it, so with a bigger blower and less effort I should be making much much more!!

Mark.
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:26 pm

He he you crazy mofo!!! :cool:
Hmmmmm wot's insurance like, is it difficult to find somone who doesn't just go "sorry 325i Turbo isn't on the computer sir".
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:37 pm

Mark, really? that's quality!

wish i could bring the rest of the car too :cry:

anyway i'm going out to fit that wastegate and get frostbite :eek:
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:46 pm

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heres t3hybrid next to h1c holset .will sort tommorrow fozzy.
set of mean green 42lbs of ford lightnight truck ok?
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:56 pm

Cheers Graham!

I see what you mean now, it's HUGE ASS!!

WARP SPEEP HERE I COME!! :lol:
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:07 pm

injectors sound ok???
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:09 pm

gcorky wrote:injectors sound ok???
Spot on, exactley what Ant & I run dude :cool:
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:19 pm

great fozzy ,im quite exited for ya!!! 8O
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:41 pm

You turbo guys are using the MS to control spark as well yeah?
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:20 pm

Widge wrote:You turbo guys are using the MS to control spark as well yeah?
Thats next, have to order the daughter board as I have V2.2, racecars MS is V3, so has all the right bits to start with.

At the mo I'm using the std spark map. which isn't great but also not that bad either, sparks are to be completed before I try for anymore than 10psi. Hardware first, then BIG BOOST!! :thumb:

Wasn't such an issue with the small turbo, it is now tho :lol:
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Post Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:34 pm

mine will run ms and spark :D
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:25 am

Wastegate's here, HUGE fecker too, although it has two vacum fittings??

Also got the instructions for Tial dump valve, but none for the wastegate :cry:

Two flanges, two gaskets, two fittings and some bolts and it seems at a cheaper price too!!

Just waiting to ambush the parcel force delivery man now, please come soon :D

This may actually come together pretty quick now, fingers crossed 8)
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:33 pm

Hey Mark,

Are you going to have this thing done by the LPS day???

Hope you have enough exhaust gas to spin that turbo up. Those oil burner turbos have a pretty big exhaust housings.

If you need a hand with anything give me a shout.

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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:37 pm

RowdyBurns wrote:Hey Mark,

Are you going to have this thing done by the LPS day???

Hope you have enough exhaust gas to spin that turbo up. Those oil burner turbos have a pretty big exhaust housings.

If you need a hand with anything give me a shout.

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It should be all done by then, just see how it goes for now, lots still to do!

Turbo wise, no worries dude, all under control :D
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:47 pm

damn you mark, you've got me looking on ebay.com for Holsets now :cry:
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:56 pm

nice one Mark
when are you fitting it dude
cant wait to see it when its done

next time you are at Lakeside dude
ay chance of a passenger ride in yours winkeye
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:11 pm

tylerma wrote:nice one Mark
when are you fitting it dude
cant wait to see it when its done

next time you are at Lakeside dude
ay chance of a passenger ride in yours winkeye
Hopefully later this week, just waiting on the tubby to arrive, I seem to have all the other bits now, so just a few hours welding, grinding, blood and sweat to do.

Passenger ride would be cool dude, but this time it should be nearer 400 at the rear wheels, not the 300ish I had a lakeside or the stupid 350 odd (16psi) I was pulling on the way there :twisted: :twisted: It started this whole stage 2 off to be fair..... another great ide4a by me, not :D
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:54 pm

Just out of interest, do you run with your FPR disconnected Mark?

Be interesting to see what the fueling does with the elevated inlet pressures with it disconnected.

Think with my whimpy boost it's not gonna be such a problem but over a bar of boost must have quite an effect?
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:01 pm

Turbo-Brown wrote:Just out of interest, do you run with your FPR disconnected Mark?

Be interesting to see what the fueling does with the elevated inlet pressures with it disconnected.

Think with my whimpy boost it's not gonna be such a problem but over a bar of boost must have quite an effect?
FPR was disconnected on install day.

As I understand it ( please correct me if wrong ) if I had it plugged in I would cut fuel off on boost, is that right?

Having not had it connected I've never thought about it.

I still have the RRFPR in the shed, was thinking of using that without the vacum attached and set to 4bar when the holset goes on, seems a waste having it sat in the shed really.

Hows yours??? turned it up yet? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:07 pm

The standard FPR should keep the fuel pressure at 3bar (or whatever) above the manifold pressure, so on high vacuum at -1bar, it'll be 2bar absolute.

With 1bar boost pressure, it'll be 4bar.

Problem is that with it disconnected, if you were to run say 3bar of boost (high, but we know what you're like :lol: ) then no fuel would come out of the injectors :(
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Post Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:57 pm

Mark

your RRFPR - where from/how much.

the MS Guru tells me i'll need 4 bar of fuel with my 30lb injectors.

i know i don't need the RR bit, but i do need an adjustable one.
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