Toyo T1-S and T1-R advice

[taxidriver]

hello guys

got one for you, ive got a pair of T1-R's and T1-S's, what would you say is the best way to have them on the car...

eg. T1-R pair at front and T1-S at back or vice versa

i want good grip, but also wouldnt mind a bit of slip at the rear...

cheers

[orangecurry]

I doubt whether anyone in the history of the world is in a better position to tell us the answer, than YOU

why don't you try it both ways for a week each time, and then let us know?

[Lordschleife]

If it was me, I'd have the t1-r on the rear

a) they're likely to be newer and you're supposed to put the newest tyres on the rear
b) I think the t1-r looks like it has more channels cut in for water to escape? I may be wrong but if so and it's a better tyre in the wet against eg. aquaplaning then I'd want them on the rear

Of course if the t1-r are far more worn than the t1-s then I'd put them the other way round with the t1-s on the back

Out of interest, how do you rate the tyres overall and compares to each other, particularly in the wet?

[taxidriver]

yeah good point from orange curry...

well i got the t1-s fitted to the rears yesterday and t1-r remain at the front, t1-s are brand new and t1-r are about a month old, first impressions are really good, plenty of grip everywhere, in the dry that is, not had a chance to try in the wet.

I dont really think there is much difference between them, but the t1-s look wider on the rim because of their tread pattern so i think im going to keep them at the rear.

[axletramp]

Hi, don't know if this will help but I had a chat with a Toyo technical rep at the Autosport International show in January. He told me that the T1 R is the newer tyre and uses different technology to the S. The carcass is manufactured in a fully laden profile which is designed to put more tread on the road particularly when cornering. Both tyres were on the stand and the obvious difference is the T1 R has block treads on the outside edge and the tread depth appears to be greater. It was a nice soft compound too. I found all the Toyo guys really helpful, so if you need any further info try: www.toyo.co.uk or e mail: info@toyo.co.uk
Alex

[taxidriver]

thanks alex, might get in touch with them.

lordschleife - in general i rate the t1-rs really well, i had a pair of kumhos on the rear a while ago which were good in the dry but not as good in the rain as these toyos (t1-rs), and because of their soft compound they are really quiet. grip level is pretty awesome in dry and very good in the rain.

im basicaly gonna try the t1-s and t1-r eacy way for a week, ill let you guys know how they compare.

cheers

[oze30]

wouldn't it make sense to put the newr more treaded tyre on the front as that axle does the most?? (Braking/steering)

To me.. having more tread in the ass end will push too much into corners rather than steering. It's easier to counter a tail flick than front end push ( over/understeer.. i forget which is which)

[taxidriver]

all of the tyres are new.

but i know what you mean, i personally prefer oversteer to understeer, but of course the best setups are neutral.