anyone had dealings with torque developments

[dmaxfield]

I am starting to feel as i am being ripped off ,I would appreciate any info please
regards dale

[nav786]

never had any dealings with them, but have heard stories of them charging silly prices. i think you will be better speaking to bexleys or birds or someone.

[dmaxfield]

I spoke to nigel today and he is going to work me a price out and get back to me tommorrow i am a bit pissed off as i have not seen my car for 4 months and its beem bumped while its been there

[maxfield]

Thats at bexleys

[player6]

hi m8 bexley did my car there top m8 i would go with them

[dmaxfield]

what did you have done and what did they charge you if you dont mind me asking

cheers dale

[dmaxfield]

your car has just been featured in one of the bmw mags

[Rich_W]

Personally, thats the one thing that irritates me with regards to M3's. Not one of the "specialists" are any good at doing a job properly to 100% satisfaction!

They are all bodgers IMHO! Who claim to be experts in these cars, but are just common or garden crap! Who try to pull the wool over your eyes with that classic line "They all do that, theres nothing we can do about it"

Why do they always say that after relieving you of hundreds of pounds!

Fucks me off something rotten!

[dmaxfield]

I have taken my m3 to a few places and after that i have not let them touch it again

[Kos]

we had a chat about this a while ago when your son mentioned that it was there, i wouldnt trust them. they are a bunch of arrogant wankers who think they know it all about every car. the best people to go to are the ones who race them, ie nigel mosley, bexley, maybe geoff steel racing. i'm using some one called phill crouch. he work out of BIRDS garage in uxbridge, they do all the uk Hartge conversions. a few people on this forum know of him and he is a very smart and inteligent man.
pm sent mate

[stevetigger]

nigel mosley

I found that he knows his stuff but can be very expensive, His workshop is ten minutes down the road from me!

http://www.moseleymotorsport.com/

Knows all about M3's and he hires out M3 racecars

[maxfield]

Kos could you send the PM to me aswell my dad not be on for a while and is not very good on here.

[maxfield]

My dads gone for bexleys they've quooted pretty much half the price than torwue developments. Going to take 6 weeks to build the engine up and in that time the car will also be sprayed

[Kos]

did your dad speak to phil ??
what exactly have they fucked up on his car then?? i know about the bumper, but they are a shambolic outfit. saw some more of their bastardised work today, and more horror stories.

[maxfield]

He might of done not to sure sent the message this morning.They hit the bumper but they did pay for it. They made the manifold twist or something because the got it so hot (glowing red). My dad says they lost money on the mapping and engine managment they are trying to rip him off

[Kos]

i yold ya the manifold glowing red was a bag sign!!! thay charge silloy labour rates but are crap. not even a specialist for M3's

i think phil knows your dad, he used to look afted his car before i belive, phils words were "get the car the fuck out of TD, they will kill it"

[maxfield]

yeah they are jap crap speacialists altho i do like there 800hp supra.

How does he know my dad don't really understand?

[Kos]

phil used to be based in kent/essex i think and he ised to do some serving work on it. is your dad a builder? and he knows about the s4 cabrio.

[maxfield]

Yeah. did he work at hartlake i think it's called.
yeah he's a builder.
he dont have the s4 now got a z4
yu got a pm

[Kos]

sounds right to me, no pm yet

[maxfield]

Has my dad done work for him or something im a bit confused.
You might have a PM now or 3

[dmaxfield]

phil serviced my car and did the timing chain on it but guess what i am happier today now i have decided to give my engine to bexley i have not heard anything bad about them and also nigel runs an m3 so it swayed me to go with him and i am getting the paint work done while i am waiting for engine to be done

[c76jon]

i know of horror stories at bexleys and it was an s14 that was built there

guy who had it done is registered on this site

they had the car for months

[dmaxfield]

they have had my car 4 months and now its just in bits but you no what they say dont get mad get even

[Rich_W]

i know of horror stories at bexleys and it was an s14 that was built there

guy who had it done is registered on this site

they had the car for months

I had a horror story. Well maybe more of a Never darken they're doorstep again, as they clearly prefer to fuck things then claim. "We had no other options"

And I also know they had ******'s car for a very long time! Though I have no idea if hes had any other issues with their work quality.

[Kos]

phil serviced my car and did the timing chain on it but guess what i am happier today now i have decided to give my engine to bexley i have not heard anything bad about them and also nigel runs an m3 so it swayed me to go with him and i am getting the paint work done while i am waiting for engine to be done

why go into the unknown then, if you were happy with phils work why not use him again??
as far as bexley go, i've never been overly impressed with their work, never a wow factor with any of their s14 work. spoken to them a couple of times but was never happy with the feed back i got from them.going back to phil i feel quite happy and trust him, "mfree" who car is with phil now also seems happy considering the bull shit he has been thru, and thats saying somthing. another one of phils customes was there today and he had a horror story about TD, guess what, phils sorting out their mess !!!!

up to you end of the day, but i'd explor all options Ԛ£6000 is still alot of money

good luck

[dmaxfield]

The reason i have not gone back there after i had it servicerd it run like a sick pig and my back bumper was all scratched

[Kos]

was that at hartlake??

not having much luck with that rear bumper of yours!!

[maxfield]

Yeah it was.
He's gone now

[Kos]

something happened there i think, maybe that why phil left??

[maxfield]

I don't know to much about the place but bexleys said they could get pretty close to 250hp at the wheels

[Kos]

I don't know to much about the place but bexleys said they could get pretty close to 250hp at the wheels

how?

[maxfield]

276/284 cams
ported/flowed head
11:5:1 pistons
new manifold
and the nta managment that tdi put on and was supposedly gettin 210 at the wheels

[Kos]

276/284 cams
ported/flowed head
11:5:1 pistons
new manifold
and the nta managment that tdi put on and was supposedly gettin 210 at the wheels

250 at the wheels is hard to get mate, thats over 100hp per litre.

[maxfield]

I dont think they will get 250 at the wheels.thats about 300+ at the flywheel but we will have to wait and see in 6 weeks time