This true story will make you weep... E30 M3 3.2 Conversion

[MFree]

I think you need to give your body parts to dips!

what so now you are both saying ive not dedicated enough of myself to this project already - you think I should start selling my internal organs for medical research to fund this mofo???



bah!!!


(LOL - I presume dips is a painter? Where is he?) [/quote]

[Kos]

he's a mate of mine rob

[bootyman]

You dont have no mates Kos

Like i said, i've run out of things to say about this project, but if the painter has been paid and hes done a bad job then it's simple. Redo it or give the money back. If he doesn't i will supply you with the salt and pepper to eat his granchildren

[MFree]

ben - The thing about all these threats is that they never come to anything, the guy did a great job on the car but hadnt done these other remaining bits when he started getting stroppy about the fact i was late in paying him for the job, so when i went there and paid him in full in cash, it left him without incentive to finish the remaining panels nicely, what i should have done is to pay him 80% of the money and hold back the other 20% until the job was completed... so again it IS my fault!

I know what you mean about running out of things to say, when i took the panels down to the car at CPC (Birds) i was talking to Phil about the rest of the job in a kind of consolatory way as we had been looking at the front of Kos's car where its rotten and said "well at least John welded the floor where it had rusted through" and Phil said "err... no he didnt.. look at that hole"! and I just flapped my arms and shrugged my shoulders like i alomst expected it after everything thats happened...

So i shook his hand and left!

BTW I have to apologise to Glenn for claiming this thread was the most viewed... his is by miles!

MFree

[Jon_Bmw]

what i should have done is to pay him 80% of the money and hold back the other 20% until the job was completed... so again it IS my fault!

Well i can tell you this now, its not your fault, its the lazy ass scumbag who has taken the money off you for a job and then not completed it to a satasfactory/agreed standard. But its the way scummers are in this world, as soon as they have the money they arn't interested.

In regards to the project as a whole I have respect for you pumping more money in to get it finished, please don't ever sell it, you'll only regret it for the rest of your life. From the way I understand it, its basically a brand new car and apart from service items and wear and tear you'll never have to do anything else to it...apart from enjoy it.

As all have said on here good luck in getting it totally finished so that you can enjoy it

[Herrity]

It's amazing how he's stayed out of prison for so long, I've read the story and I'd be up for at least half a dozen charges of murder one by the 1st page !

[MFree]

John_BMW - thanks for the vote of confidence! yeah its amazing isnt it? .

Herrity - well, my view is that it wont do any good to get revenge in that way, unless there is a chance of gaining something back just from the threat! Which is unusual right?

Anyway, lets focus on the positives from here on in, Im letting my mate Dan deal with chasing up the bad debts! Its much more his thing and he's much more capable of doing it having done that for a dodgy living for a while!

I would like to know what tyres Ian uses on his 332i as Kos is kindly sourcing a set for my Schnitzers which are 9 or 9.5 inch wide all round... I dont know which they are. As on the one hand i want that 'go kart' look on the tyres where they go in from the rims but I dont want to compromise the handling just for the look! I was thinking 235/40 or 245/40 on the rear and 225/40 on the front... I dont want to be undertyred on the front u see, thats my only concern, with the extra weight and all...

MFree...

[ian332isport]

I would like to know what tyres Ian uses on his 332i

I'm currently running 215/40/17 Goodyear GSD3's.

[glenn]

BTW I have to apologise to Glenn for claiming this thread was the most viewed... his is by miles!

no need for apologies mate,
if anything, your the one who should of been apologiesed to, by all the assholes that have fu**ed you over.
if this was my project, i think i'd have ate my young by now.

[MFree]

Ian im amazed they are wide enough!? I mean the E36 M3 your motor came out of used 235's right? Mind you I guess your car is much lighter than the original... And you dont find you are getting excessive wheelspin (obviously you can induce it but...) or excessive understeer with all that weight transmitting throgh those skinny tires???

hmmm...

[Herrity]

You have the patience of a saint after reading the last 12 pages, please post some pictures so we can finally drool !

[MFree]

Thanks Fella - I wish I had the karma of a saint as well!

I will post some photos when I get up to see the car again, which Im not gonna do until something has changed with it!

MFree

[Kos]

i use 215/40 on the front with 8.5" rim and 245/35 on a 10" at the back, my only concern with your car is that you have 9" all the way round so the could be too much of a stretch on a car wou will drive hard, i cant find 225/40 17's i dont think any one does them??? so may be a 235/40 up front should be ok ( possible a 225/35/17 exists ??) and maby go a little wider on the back??

[MFree]

Kos - i saw some 225/40 17's yesterday in the kwik-fit when i was getting my puncture we had on the Renault fixed on the way to Phils... i cant remember what they were, i think michelin, but if kwik fit do them im sure others do right?

MFree

[Kos]

i'm on to it, so you deffinately got 9" all round, out of curiosity have your arches been rolled to accomodate wider tyres? mind you, you have got the best suspension money can buy, wich is rock hard and fully hight adjustable!!!

[MFree]

yeah though i dunno when it was done, the arches are seriously rolled... phil was looking at them with me last time i was there...

Sweet

MFree

[Kos]

sorted, 235/40 should be ok then. or just go with what an e36 m3 uses if you want, 225/45 and 245/40

[ian332isport]

Ian im amazed they are wide enough!? I mean the E36 M3 your motor came out of used 235's right? Mind you I guess your car is much lighter than the original... And you dont find you are getting excessive wheelspin (obviously you can induce it but...) or excessive understeer with all that weight transmitting throgh those skinny tires???

hmmm...

Everyone says that, but it really isn't a problem

I was (and still am) amazed at how well it puts the power down. Wheelspin is not an issue unless I want it to be, and understeer doesn't seem to be a problem either. I gave it a good thrash around the Nurburgring last year, and had no problems at all.

Ian.

[bootyman]

Shame you're running 17's. I have some 18 Toyo that would do you nicely. I think it's 2x245/35/18's and 2x285/30/18's. I run 275/30/18 on my 12j rear and 235/35/18 on my 10j fronts, but i'm looking to change the fronts to 225/35/18 as i cant get full lock on my car so parking is a pain cause it looks like you cant drive

[MFree]

Bootyman - those are seriously wide tyres! Now your car HAS to be overtyred, with 285's you could be talking about a ferrari or something right? Mind you 12 inch rims require something like that I would have thought - I dunno how you get those inside the arches mate - thats a SERIOUS dish innit

Later all

MFree

[fuzzy]

i hope for your sanity that it is indeed in safe hands this time,but it sounds like youve got the makings of big delay excuses there already

[MFree]

fuzzy... I sincerely hope you are wrong there... But although i dont want to see yet more delays on the project, as long as its not the kind of open ended delay that has characterised this project while it was with GTS, Russ and Zoom, im not too concerned actually as it just gives me more time to try and find the money to pay for it!!! As if it IS ready in a month its about 80% if things stay the way they are that i will have to sell the car, but the longer it goes the better chance i have of finding the money... you know, lottery, marrying an heiress to a fortune etc etc

Being serious though, I will know 100% by mid march about one of my projects ive pitched for and will know about the other one next week for sure... the work im certain about that i have other than this wont pay me anything till april (i dont get a regular pay packet, its all in lumps as i work for myself) so unless its delayed by a month thats not much help!

I guess i could always go for fractional ownership and ask 51 other Zone members to stump up Ԛ£220 each and they can get to use the car for a week each every year!!!

huh?

MFree...

[bootyman]

Dude i use to run 305 Goodyear F1's My mate is putting the finishing touches on his E36 widearch cab and that's running 325 tyres at the rear

Dude the only advise i can give re your car if you want it finished quicker is to go there everyday or ring them 10 times a day until they get fed up with you, then they'll want to do it just to get rid of you

[MFree]

funnily enough Bootyman. when i last saw Phil on monday I was trying to sell him the benefits of having an Online Customer Intranet for the website I want him to commission from me (as i have the whole structure built already for John but which is now not needed) as it allows customers to login and see the progress of their project, its a very useful tool as when he quotes for a job it means he can provide a series of stages or milestones for the project and then when each development milestone is reached he takes a few photos of the relevant part(s) and writes a paragraph report/summary and posts that up, like a blog for each project, that means that it saves him having to constantly talk to customers and customers feel reassured that progress is going according to the quoted plan... then when finished he has a whole account of each project which is then highly useful to show prospective customers in an 'Previous Projects' section as it shows not only the quality and amount of work carried out but that the work is structured and goes according to an agreed plan rather than the usual "hand over Ԛ£x now and give me the rest when the jobs done" kind of affair...

Even though the reason this project was allowed to go so pear shaped with GTS and others was that I didnt stay on top of it enough and question what they were doing as i was too trusting on the whole, I also tend to be of the opinion that hassling the person just winds them up and makes them more likely to rush the job or do it poorly...

Remember also that Phil is *totally* aware of what ive been through already and how sensitive i am to being fobbed off and the project continually delayed! It's happened to me at every stage! He does have ALOT of work on right now however and I thought his initial completion date of the middle of March was very optimistic, but as Ive said above/before, the more time it takes (within reason) the better chance I have of raising the cash myself without having to sell it to pay for the work (or rather pay the person back who lends me the dosh to finish it!!)
The bottom line is that I do trust Phil, he has Kos's and Pete's cars and I trust them too and I don't think either of them, being as shrewd as they are, would be using him to do the work on their cars if they had any doubts about it!!! So im not at all concerned...

At the moment!

MFree...

[dn808e]

so after all these trials and years spent on this project who is in your opinion worth to see and give the car to sort out?

[bootyman]

Dude i've been following this story right from the 1st post and every fcuker that has had you car you've said the same things about and then they've bent you over and got the KY jelly out. There is no such thing as trust or mate when it comes to business dude. You pay the dollar and a man does the work. You have every right to ring him 500 times a day if you want (It's called customer service) If he gets fed up and rushes the job, then you simply dont pay him at the end (Another reason why you should never pay all monies upfront until you're satisfied with the work done. I learned that one the hard way to the tune of Ԛ£3k for my engine)

Your car at the end of the day, but if i went through what you've been through, i'd refuse to believe i was black when i looked in the mirror unless God himself came down and cinfirmed it

[M5pilot]

I agree witht Bootyman on this - trust and mate should not come into this at all.

If you do that it automatically relaxes the mind of thsoe doing the work thinking that your going to be very reasonable about delays because your now a "mate". Yuor car then gets pushed back over cars whos owners are very pushy or just serious about getting their car sorted.

When I get building work for example done from a good friend of mine I dont give a flying fcuk if he is my mate, if the job aint done or it falls behind Im on the phone or I wont pay him.

I personally wish this thread didnt exist and you didnt have these problems but I would highly suggest you take a different attitude this time.

Call them atleast every 2 days, if they have email and read it - send an email. Dont have long conversations, just ask them if everything is going ok and thats it. Phil will know how serious you are and will want the car done and out.

Sorry if this sounds like I'm telling you what to do but I think you might actually get this done if you have the right approach.

Get post it pads and stick them on your doors, mirrors, walls saying:

I AM A FUCKING IMPATIENT BLOKE WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING MY CAR BACK

I AM MR ANAL WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUALITY OF WORKMANSHIP

KY JELLY NO MORE!

[bootyman]

KY Jelly no more I had all this mate crap when i was doing my blue cab. My so called mate took nearly 2 years to finish and it cost me Ԛ£15k and i sold the car last week for Ԛ£2.5k without even doing 500 miles in it Bajadaan is going through the same thing at the moment. When thar scumbag broke in his car and stole the ICE he scratched the car and this so called mate of his has had the car for the last 2 months and have only managed to strip off the vinyl off his hartop in that time. Like you his too polite to ring and give the guy hell, yet this guy has the time to take 1 day cash jobs on whilst his car just sits there. I told him to ring the guy and agree a deadline. After that money will start being taken off his final payment and 2 weeks after the deadline if the car still isn't done then the car will be taken to someone who can do it and he wont get a penny. Funny how that seems to give people the kick up the backside needed. Now the fcuker is actually doing some work on the car

[buster]

a bit off topic here but a while back in this thread there were pics of a carbon fiber airbox for the e36 m3.

Guess whos got a carbon airbox ?

[MFree]

i have a web connection again!

Kos and I went to visit Phil and the car last week and things are all going fine...

not much has happened but it is happening, trust me!

Buster - whassat about a carbon airbox? I ask because Phil (CPC) told me yesterday that someone in Germany is making a nice CF Airbox specifically for the S50 engine in an E30 engine bay... one with proper trumpets and stuff... i.e *NOT* like the piece of Sh*t I paid John at Zoom Ԛ£500.00 for which was a badly welded aluminium tube with 6 smaller tubes welded into it with neat (not) ridges sticking out inside up to 15mm proud!!! Phil was so appalled by it (not QUITE as appalled as he was about the home-made/bent front brake lines in the car which looked like they had been put in there by someone on 'X-factor - BMW Maintainance' but NEARLY as much!) that he refuses to use it on my car... added to which the last car it was tried on by John suffered a power DROP as a result so its not really the 'bomb' is it!

I think Phil is going to try and get a price on it, the one in this thread was a Hamman job which Ian was comparing with Zooms one as John said he based his on that (which was then compared to it and clearly they are not at all similar...) but what is this one you are referring to Buster???

ANd do you mean you have it to SELL or just have one for your car?

Anyway, Phil is now taking the engine out so he can fit the bulkhehad insulation which no-one previously bothered to even mention to me was missing... and also welding the huge hole in the floor that i was told wasnt there anymore!

I have a long list of bit to get for the car, lots of small things, but other than those its the windscreen, airflow meter (for S50 3.2), exhaust system (not the manifold), front under-bumper parts (I only have the outer moulding) and brake lines and brake discs/pads that I need.

Given the cost of brakes for the M3, even though Kos has made me a very good offer on his existing Tarox items, Im THINKING about trying to stretch to buying a pair of AP Calipers for the front even though i lost a huge amount selling my Brembo ones to Kos a while back... the difference will be about Ԛ£6-700... a fair whack i know, i dont know yet whether they will even fit behind the dished wheels i have.. i need REALLY slim calipers you see. I wonder what are the slimmest ones out there?

More later...

MFree



Its all gonna be good...

MFree

[buster]

Nah not to sell m8.I bought it off german ebay but its not designed for the e30 body shell.I had to shorten the trumpets as it was still too big.
Before i shortened them it looked exactly the same as a hammon one,its made converting an e30 for an s50 engine a lot easier as i had to chop the original alloy plenum to fit it.

heres some pics :







cheers
andy

[jonb]

M free

i think your wanted by someone on another thread. something about monies being owed.

ever heard the one about the black pot and kettle?

[MaaasterBates]

Which thread? Go on. spill the beans!!

[Andy335Touring]

Which thread? Go on. spill the beans!!

http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... ic&t=27381

[MFree]

yeah... thats right. its Ԛ£75.00 and I sent the cheque already so I dont get what the problem is...

Anyway... I'll PM Justin again and find out whats going on...

And FYI i dont see the connection between owing Ԛ£75.00 and being ripped off for numerous thousends numerous times... and also you could PM me instead of doing this in this thread dont you think that would be more appropriate?

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Buster - I didnt know you had also done the same S50 conversion that i have... did you do the work on your car yourself?? if not who did YOU get to do it??

Phil at CPC mentioned a German airbox like this he wants to try out. Let me know how yours works please - did you try the original one before? how do they compare??

Cheers

MFree...