Dbilas throttle body's

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:08 pm

Hi
Has any one tried bdilas throttle body's . Can get throttle body cams and chip for £1000

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:27 pm

what engine ?

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:36 pm

M40 18i 8 v

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:06 pm

is this a wind up

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:14 pm

magpie wrote:is this a wind up

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:17 pm

No. I know what people think about these engines. Some like some hate .just want to keep this engine to see what I can do and get out of her. Don't want to do another engine swap

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:33 pm

Dale used them, but hasn't been on here for about 10 years though.

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:52 pm

Siggo wrote:No. I know what people think about these engines. Some like some hate .just want to keep this engine to see what I can do and get out of her. Don't want to do another engine swap

boost it then

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:53 pm

someone on here had a green boosted m40 cab

Post Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:01 pm

Doing that as well

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:41 am

I would suggest you do a lot more reading, you will find you plans do not make sense.

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:56 am

Siggo wrote:No. I know what people think about these engines. Some like some hate .just want to keep this engine to see what I can do and get out of her. Don't want to do another engine swap

Dbilas TB will not add a single pony to any engine.

Personally I'd still buy them, rare morsel and eye candy.

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:01 pm

Boosted and throttle bodies? Save yourself a lot of hassle for no gains and leave the stock inlet on

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:38 pm

Ok that's a big no for that then

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:44 pm

Siggo wrote:Ok that's a big no for that then

Are you fookin' insane? At £1k they are a bargain, get them bought and sell them on.

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:52 pm

ross_jsy wrote:Boosted and throttle bodies? Save yourself a lot of hassle for no gains and leave the stock inlet on

wasn't it toby unna who used a turbo & TB's on his m30?? on here & in PPC mag??

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:05 pm

Guys a need people who have tried and tested this . Not going on what they think or heard . I'm Geting different views . I have researched and have read about these giving more power . Are they not similar to they gtr airbox and to what's on m cars

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:23 pm

steve_k wrote:
ross_jsy wrote:Boosted and throttle bodies? Save yourself a lot of hassle for no gains and leave the stock inlet on
wasn't it toby unna who used a turbo & TB's on his m30?? on here & in PPC mag??

No, it was StaleyTurbo

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:09 pm

Rav335uk wrote:
steve_k wrote:
ross_jsy wrote:Boosted and throttle bodies? Save yourself a lot of hassle for no gains and leave the stock inlet on
wasn't it toby unna who used a turbo & TB's on his m30?? on here & in PPC mag??
No, it was StaleyTurbo

He bought the TB set up off of Toby.

Post Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:30 pm

Kedge wrote:
Rav335uk wrote:
steve_k wrote: wasn't it toby unna who used a turbo & TB's on his m30?? on here & in PPC mag??
No, it was StaleyTurbo
He bought the TB set up off of Toby.

thats what i meant, did he ever finish it?? i remember reading about it in PPC a few years ago.

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:47 am

You can make it work, and work well, but the time and money spent would see much bigger better things from using another engine to start with or going for better turbo bits.

1K is enough for rods and pistons for some engines or you could use that cash to ditch the M40 for an M44 and start with a 16v 1.9 engine.

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:22 am

Ok thanks . Would like to keep engine if I can and do the best with it

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:58 pm

steve_k wrote: thats what i meant, did he ever finish it?? i remember reading about it in PPC a few years ago.

He got it up and running, but I don't think it was ever running very well. Stripped the car in the as the shell was crap and he was moving from Leics up to Sheffield.

Staley has got it running, and very well, but then from looking at build pics he's spent a lot of £££££ on it.

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:18 pm

Siggo wrote:Ok thanks . Would like to keep engine if I can and do the best with it

Just concentrate on getting it running spot on, wasting your money trying to add performance to an M40. Once that's done look at chassis mods instead!

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:55 pm

Kedge wrote:
steve_k wrote: thats what i meant, did he ever finish it?? i remember reading about it in PPC a few years ago.
He got it up and running, but I don't think it was ever running very well. Stripped the car in the as the shell was crap and he was moving from Leics up to Sheffield.

Staley has got it running, and very well, but then from looking at build pics he's spent a lot of £££££ on it.

Toby came to a dyno day i organised at Evolve back in 2007 with the turbo'd ITB'd M30 and it made the most power on the day until Karan came with his S38B36 turd right toward the end of the day.

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:15 pm

Interesting, my understanding was they were a white elephant.

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:19 pm

Really don't understand the insistence on keeping the M40. The cost of doing all that work to an M40 isn't going to be significantly less than doing it to, say an M42 or M44 but the end result would be far superior - and dropping an SR20 in could probably be done for less. If I'm spending lots of money I'd want the best possible results for it! If you got two identical quotes to have your drive tarmacced; one from the local travelling contingent and one from a reputable pro; surely you'd choose the pro?

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:57 pm

bss325i wrote:
Kedge wrote:
steve_k wrote: thats what i meant, did he ever finish it?? i remember reading about it in PPC a few years ago.
He got it up and running, but I don't think it was ever running very well. Stripped the car in the as the shell was crap and he was moving from Leics up to Sheffield.

Staley has got it running, and very well, but then from looking at build pics he's spent a lot of £££££ on it.
Toby came to a dyno day i organised at Evolve back in 2007 with the turbo'd ITB'd M30 and it made the most power on the day until Karan came with his S38B36 turd right toward the end of the day.

I know it did make good power, just thought he was never fully happy with how it ran, although I remember Ant did go up and spend a day tuning the MS so might have been a lot better after that. Good effort for something built on the side of the road

bab-91 wrote:Interesting, my understanding was they were a white elephant.

The ITB's were from an M5, proper parts

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:12 pm

Kedge wrote:
bab-91 wrote:Interesting, my understanding was they were a white elephant.
The ITB's were from an M5, proper parts

Ah, sorry, long day, must have missed that.

Still, white elephant or not, I'd still have Dbilas for aesthetics.

Not that ITB'ing is a cheap 'bolt on' to begin with.

Post Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:29 pm

They're not, but I've got RHD Engineering ITBs on the wishlist for mine.

Post Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:00 am

We have a 318i cab and wanted a bit more poke as we found we had to constantly move out of the way of faster traffic on motorways, although smooth and reliable the M40 was, i realised it would be a waste of time trying to get more from it and fitted a complete M42 engine, gearbox & prop. Night & day improvement, excellent reliability, original looking engine bay, 16V & no complications, win win!

Post Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:46 am

Kedge wrote:They're not, but I've got RHD Engineering ITBs on the wishlist for mine.

I shall be watching your IG with interest!

Post Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:54 am

dbilas is good for bling and nothing else. the way their manifolds attach to the head and the chosen runner geometry kills any chance for sucess

Post Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:40 pm

bab-91 wrote:
Kedge wrote:They're not, but I've got RHD Engineering ITBs on the wishlist for mine.

I shall be watching your IG with interest!

You'll have to be bloody patient then

Post Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:40 pm

Motorhole wrote:Really don't understand the insistence on keeping the M40.

Unless restricted by competition regs it does look pointless to start with the M40.

Say the OP fitted the ITBs, reworked the head, fitted custom cam shaft and exhaust, possibly even needing a bigger rad to deal with the extra cooling, then spent hours on the dyno to get everything running perfectly and upped the power output by 25% what would he have?

About what an M42 makes but without the reliability.