E30 M3 number 2. 04/09/22 Engine build.

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8O Bloody hell, Barry! What a story and what a find.
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Interesting story behind the car. Good thing it doesnt have a zeemax type bodykit!
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elan wrote:Interesting story behind the car. Good thing it doesnt have a zeemax type bodykit!
Indeed! Maybe the M3 inspired his wide arch vision for styling?
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Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:20 am

Interesting history, I see why you want to keep the plate now.
Is the aircon line wrapped in something, or just severely rotten ? Haven't seen an M3 with yellow caps on the TB's for a while too ! Looking forward to hearing more about the engine and what needs doing after a long period off the road.
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The air con pipe is wrapped some anti condensation tape which is normally wrapped arround the expansion valve near the evaporator. The pipe that it is wrapped arround is on the low pressure side so is cold and condensates in use but it's the first E30 I've seen wrapped with it. It will be coming off and the pipe underneath still looks to have that gold passivate finish.

With regards to the mechanicals, as said earlier on the car was mot'd which I assume was done to prepare it for selling and when I initially checked the car over i found that the fuel pump, fuel hoses, filter, injectors and brake hoses have been replaced.

All the suspension inc bushes at the front is now new from the work I did and at the rear only the diff, axle and trailing arm bushes remain but these are ok with no play so usuable for now but will obviously be done in the future when the rear is stripped and powder coated.

I have done an oil change with Castrol 10w60 and a genuine filter, the plugs were also new at the time of the fuel system parts so I've not had a huge amount to do from such a long period out of use.
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Awesome :cool:
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You inspired me to find the previous owner of mine for some stories... turns out he's 106 years old if he's still alive :(
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Nice work Barry, I need to start doing some digging with the C2 history, oh yeah and actually get it back on the road!!
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Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:17 pm

Nice car,particularly with an original black leather interior now.

I do love an interesting history!

Was this interior from a 50k mile M3, originally,out of interest Barry?
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Thanks guys. I have no idea what car the interior came from Ash.
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:28 pm

quite the story, how lucky you are Barold
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ooh, thats nice! i think a few were surprised when the last m3 was sold, but this is deffo an upgrade. nice history as well....i (we all) wanna know how much you got it for but am too polite to ask, hope it was a steal mate! :D

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Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:53 pm

As with many things in life, right time right place!

I only found out the story on the car last week and I've had it a couple of months now.
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Great story, a really interesting read.

Looking forward to more updates and pics

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Looking good Barry, I look forward to seeing this in person some time
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Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:35 pm

About time you posted this Barry!! - i was so looking forward to the big reveal...

She's a beauty... thank god i have one too.. they are just awesome cars!

Looking forward to your updates!
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Thanks for the comments guys!

A recent pic of it parked up at work.

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With the knowledge that the engine had been rebuilt and upgraded by BBR it was time to do some investigation as to what had exactly been done.

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Firstly i removed the DME to find the correct bosch number but in black not the usual green or red and no VIN number label. Possibly a replacement?

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Opening the DME up revealed that the eprom chip has been changed but I'm unable to identify it. I suspect its one of BBR's own chips as they built the engine and i know they offered chips for various cars.

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Next up a compression test resulted in a healthy 210 PSI across all four cylinders.

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Popping the cam cover off revealed a very clean cam box area of the engine which is always a good sign. I also checked the cam box and cylinder head parts numbers and the are just standard early 200bhp spec parts.

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And the money shot!

A pair of early schrick cams which tallys up with what the original owner said about the engine built "with cams etc" by BBR! :D
I'm not sure what spec they are yet as the markings do not relate to anything I've seen in the schrick catalogue and i did not have the correct tool with me at the time to measure lift but i hope to get this done before the end of the week.
Valve clearances were checked and all were within spec implying a well maintained engine.

I have a run on the dyno at Surrey rolling road booked for saturday morning so we shall see what we have!

Any bets/guesses? :)
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it pulled strong the other night with the M5, I needed all the revs to get past!
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:07 pm

Sounds good then Barry. Sometimes you never know what is bullshit from sellers and what is the truth. The normal one I hear is "got cams" in a single cam engine. :cry:

Thanks for that tool part number the other day. That number went straight in and arrived the next day. Fortunately I have got shim kit (£200 +?) as it was lying around at work, totally unused! You can guess what job I have coming up!

My guess is 218bhp.
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Looks good! :cool:
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What a great transformation, looks alot better.
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Transformation looks complete and soooo much better look now all the chav tat has been junked.
As for power, 211bhp. We do win a prize for the closest guess, right ?
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BMG wrote: We do win a prize for the closest guess, right ?
I thought we won the car?

205BHP

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BenHar wrote:
BMG wrote: We do win a prize for the closest guess, right ?
I thought we won the car?

205BHP

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BEN WINS! :)

But not the car!

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So yesterdays trip down to SRR resulted in a not to shabby 203 bhp, 170 odd lbft and most importantly ok AFR's. I was happy with anything over 200bhp and as i have a track day and ring trip looming i wanted to know the AFR's were good.

Ive noticed the oil level has been dropping and engine oil was spotting on the ground plus the coolant level has dropped a touch since I've been using it everyday for the last few weeks so today was time to start to tackle these issues.

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Upper and lower sump gaskets clearly leaking and also the water pump shaft seal leaking.

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The oily mess removed to be cleaned up.
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Looks like you need to pay ol' Jon down at MJK a visit :wink:
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No time for that!

Besides, IF i go all out peado on the car then ill do it in on hit.
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Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:01 am

Take advantage of the fact the sump is off and fit an horizontal baffle (a la Gr.A) (not the verticals) specially if you're driving around a track.

If you can't find any in UK let me know, I have a couple in stock
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Unfortunately i did not have time to order a baffle this time round but i will be sure to have one fitted before the next track time.

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Sump parts cleaned up before being fitted.

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New vs old water pump.

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Some brake upgrades were needed as well so some Pagid RS29's, new front discs, goodridge braided hoses and bled through with ATE type 200 fluid saw to that.

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As you can see the rear axle beam bushes were totally shot and upon removal the date stamp was 6 so one can assume they were the original 1986 ones!

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Out with the old and in with some new Lemforder ones.

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The diff oil was in a sorry state! :o No untoward noises though and seems to lock up ok. Some fresh castor SAF-XJ went in.

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Four wheel alignment done at a mates garage after......

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... four new Yokohama Neova AD08R tyres

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A lucky find on a 5 series forum were these Recaro SRD's for a bargain price. I wanted some more supportive seats as the standard ones are useless on track and even hard road use to be honest and it also means i can keep the original ones nice with minimal use.
I will get these trimmed in black leather to match at some point.

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A couple of pairs of theses were ordered from Germany, correct Recaro E30 brackets to mount the SRD's.

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Just enough time the night before the track day to get the drivers one bolted in with a 4 point harness i had.
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Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:25 am

Nice work Barry.
M3 looks great. :cool:
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Looking good Barry I have the silimar evo 8 SRD style ones fitted in mine and was rightly or wrongly told that although they have harness holes in that harnesses should not be fitted to them as in an accident as you are thrown forward they can recline forward or backwards which will change the tension on the harness which will not give you any support / on the rebound or on the way forward if you where in an accident or crashed it into an amco.

As I say only what I was told so happy to be advised otherwise. :D
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appletree wrote:Looking good Barry I have the silimar evo 8 SRD style ones fitted in mine and was rightly or wrongly told that although they have harness holes in that harnesses should not be fitted to them as in an accident as you are thrown forward they can recline forward or backwards which will change the tension on the harness which will not give you any support / on the rebound or on the way forward if you where in an accident or crashed it into an amco.

As I say only what I was told so happy to be advised otherwise. :D
Thanks!

Yes I have also heard that theory about harness and recliners but the recaro SRD/speed is designed to work with a 4 point harness as long as the harness is mounted in accordance with the manufactures guidelines.

https://www.recaro-automotive.com/en/pr ... speed.html

Also, the on the older SRD's, you had the option of an extra hole in the base of the seat so a 5 point harness could be used.
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