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martauto
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It all started like this....
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Now I have linked the two pipes together after the old motor and pump were taken out , and had very little change.
Lets get this straight, the pipe from the back of the head goes to the top of the heater and the other goes to the bottom??
If so then the top hose was hot and the lower was not.
Help please !!
Mart.
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=259110
Now I have linked the two pipes together after the old motor and pump were taken out , and had very little change.
Lets get this straight, the pipe from the back of the head goes to the top of the heater and the other goes to the bottom??
If so then the top hose was hot and the lower was not.
Help please !!
Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
Just got too old.
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jmc330i
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The pipe from back of the head goes to the bottom heater pipe.
James
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'93 318i touring 16v
'91 325i Sport
'93 318i touring 16v
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martauto
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I will check right now .jmc330i wrote:The pipe from back of the head goes to the bottom heater pipe.
Mart.
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martauto
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Well mine dose not , it goes to the top. !!
When somebody changed it from injection to a webber do you think they got it wrong?
The two pipes are in really good shape as in the last two to three years old.
Mart.
When somebody changed it from injection to a webber do you think they got it wrong?
The two pipes are in really good shape as in the last two to three years old.
Mart.
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jmc330i
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Just realised this is an M10 and I've not worked on these, but I can't see it being different from other BMW engines.
If work has been done that involves those pipes, it's entirely possible they have been refitted the wrong way around. This results in little to no heat from the heater (especially at revs higher than idle) and usually a 'thudding' noise from the heater valve at higher revs as water is being forced the wrong way through the valve.
If work has been done that involves those pipes, it's entirely possible they have been refitted the wrong way around. This results in little to no heat from the heater (especially at revs higher than idle) and usually a 'thudding' noise from the heater valve at higher revs as water is being forced the wrong way through the valve.
James
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'93 318i touring 16v
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Brianmoooore
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They are often refitted the wrong way around, because that's the way they look like they should be - not crossed over.
The pipe from the back of the head goes to the bottom stub on the bulkhead on all BMWs.
The pipe from the back of the head goes to the bottom stub on the bulkhead on all BMWs.
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martauto
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Thanks guys. lets hope this is the problem.
Mart.
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martauto
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Well that didn't work either.
I ran her up to temperature for a good 30 mins and no heat from the heater.
Any ideas please?
Mart.
I ran her up to temperature for a good 30 mins and no heat from the heater.
Any ideas please?
Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
Just got too old.
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Brianmoooore
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Pipes off again, and connect a garden hose to the bottom stub pipe, to check that water will flow through the matrix freely. There's an electric valve on the side of the heater box that can be forced shut if water is flowing the wrong way, and may have stuck.
When you refit the heater hoses, you should do so with coolant flowing from the pipes, so that no air is trapped.
When you refit the heater hoses, you should do so with coolant flowing from the pipes, so that no air is trapped.
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martauto
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Do you have a fuse number and location for the electric valve please?
Mart.
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DHFiS
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The valve is to the right of the glove box. To get to it you will need to take out the center console, the glove box and two pieces of trim. I found it worth taking the passenger seat out to make access easier.
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The electric valve is protected by the only conventional fuse on an E30 that isn't in the fusebox. The fuse is in an inline fuse holder in the wire to the valve, BUT the valve is open when no power is applied. Applying power to it closes the valve.
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martauto
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OK so what is the purpose of the valve and if no power /blown fuse would it allow the flow of coolant ?
Mart.
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Brianmoooore
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The purpose of the valve is simply to completely cut off the warmth from the heater when the temperature knob is set to fully cold. As soon as the knob is moved a few degrees, power to the valve is removed.
With no power, the valve should allow the full flow of coolant.
With no power, the valve should allow the full flow of coolant.
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martauto
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Cheers Brian, are they readily available ?
Mart.
Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
Just got too old.
