Manny pacquiao vs Floyd mayweather is FINALLY on!!

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This video shows just how fast he really was. The way he out boxed Trevor Berbick and Michael Spinks proved just how good he was. You could always see the fear in his opponents eyes before the fight was to start.

Would like to meet Tyson someday, a very misunderstood character imo.
That's one of my favourite video's of him. The fear he created was insane, considering he walked into the ring often comfortably outweighed and standing less than 5'10!
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Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:57 pm

A friend of mine managed to learn peek-a-boo and it always made me jealous seeing him shadow box.

I tried the style myself a few times only to give up but it was half arsed training... You really do have to give it your all. Peek-a-boo is ideal technique for us short people but hard to master lol.
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87mtech27 wrote:A friend of mine managed to learn peek-a-boo and it always made me jealous seeing him shadow box.

I tried the style myself a few times only to give up but it was half arsed training... You really do have to give it your all. Peek-a-boo is ideal technique for us short people but hard to master lol.
To be fair, there's very few places that taught it well enough for you to build your entire armoury around it. You not only had to be short and powerful, but the key to bring it all together was speed. Tyson has said many times his style was only meant for a young fighter.
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:35 am

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Tyson may not be the greatest of all time over his career, but I can't think of another fighter (before or since) that could've lived with him when Rooney was around.
Kevin Rooney was the last person to truly care about Tyson, that leech Don King as usual destroyed another great boxer.
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Tyson was a freak and a phenom.... To be Heavyweight Champion of the world at the tender age of 20 is quite simply stunning....

The average heavyweight doesnt usually peak until he is approaching 30 or even past it.... very few are even pro at 19 or 20... but to be champion and to then unify the division all whilst being under 6 ft in height and 20 years of age shows how developed he was physically at such a young age.... Trouble was emotionally and mentally he was still a little kid...

Longevity will always count against him in the "all time great" arguments and the fact that even if Rooney and Cus did stick around a while longer, it just looks like he would have burnt out early due to being pushed so much and achieving so much whilst being so young....
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:57 pm

His peak was abruptly cut short by external factors rather than his decline in the ring, yes I agree he would have been burnt out by the time he hit 30 as his training would have taken its toll on him but he could have easily reigned till he was 25-26. And surely it's the duration of reign rather than at what age they peak that matters when defining all time greats? We can only speculate on the 'IF' scenarios.

What we can safely say is he might not be THE greatest or even top 10 greatest but he definitely was a very good and entertaining boxer, after him the heavyweight devision hasn't been the same.

Unfortunately he wasn't mentally developed enough, Givens duo caused unstable home environment and more importantly imprisonment for false rape charges halted his peak.
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:33 pm

Hes in My top 10 and not many boxing experts would not have him in theres :D
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:57 pm

87mtech27 wrote:His peak was abruptly cut short by external factors rather than his decline in the ring, yes I agree he would have been burnt out by the time he hit 30 as his training would have taken its toll on him but he could have easily reigned till he was 25-26. And surely it's the duration of reign rather than at what age they peak that matters when defining all time greats? We can only speculate on the 'IF' scenarios.

What we can safely say is he might not be THE greatest or even top 10 greatest but he definitely was a very good and entertaining boxer, after him the heavyweight devision hasn't been the same.

Unfortunately he wasn't mentally developed enough, Givens duo caused unstable home environment and more importantly imprisonment for false rape charges halted his peak.


A boxer that was not mentally 'developed', that would be a first ! :)
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ImysE30 wrote:Possibility of Khan vs Bradley on the undercard 8)
Im really not an Amir "Khant" fan tbh lol

Bradley is not a very hard puncher, he is quick, but i can see another night of kahn jumping in..giving a 1-2 possibly 3 then jumping out again and racking up another points decision..iffff he doesnt get ko'd by a counter punch which he doesnt see winkeye

Khan is still Young mind, ive never been his greatest fan but he's getting better and better, bigger and bigger too, hes becoming an immese fighter who's not yet peaked , lighting quick and can take a dig now a lot better than he could ,maybe hel fight the winner of pac man and mayweather,but he's a very risky opponent for either, the longer time goes on the more it will favour him to beat mayweather (IF he beats pacman) that's probably a fight mayyweather or pacman would want to avoid, if Khan keeps on the path he's going he could really rule the roost
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:11 pm

Special K will hopefully see Kahn off!
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:18 pm

Low_E30 wrote:Tyson was a freak and a phenom.... To be Heavyweight Champion of the world at the tender age of 20 is quite simply stunning....

The average heavyweight doesnt usually peak until he is approaching 30 or even past it.... very few are even pro at 19 or 20... but to be champion and to then unify the division all whilst being under 6 ft in height and 20 years of age

Your right , a total animal, some even under rate his boxing ability , his double hook/uppercut was deverstating , I loved Tyson for his raw explosive power and fear factor , a phenomenon who was unstoppable, entertaining, you never knew what was going to happen

There is a pre/post prison Tyson, it's a shame the circus that surrounded him and all the hangers on etc , the style he had and way he took people apart he definatly has his place in the all time hall of fame , you can only wonder and debate untill the cows come home about what would of happend if a peak 1986 Mike Tyson fought a peak older Lenox Lewis etc , if the fight happened 10 times , the result would not of been the same 10 times , if a 20 year old Mike Tyson fought pretty much any 19 year old other heaavyweight great - he would of took them apart , like you say many got better later , Like Lennox

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Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:22 pm

Urban legend is from time to time they used to feed Lennox Lewis to Tyson as a sparring partner in the 80s when Lennox was residing in Canada and Tyson had him beat all the time.

As for Maybe at her, I think he is one of the best pound for pound boxers ever, not taking anything away from Pacman just think he May has aged better.
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Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:34 pm

As a Big Mike Tyson fan and a Boxing fan in general I really am enjoying this thread! :o:

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I've always liked this tribute to Tyson:
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and back to the topic of the thread here's a good tribute for the Two legends who will be facing each other May 2nd 8)


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Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:57 pm

Low_E30 wrote:Out of the Ali-frazier trilogy, the third was by far the best and most brutal as both fighters were past their best, and both crossed paths at perfectly the right time...
Let's hope these two can give us a similar bout as the last Ali-Frazier match, but somehow I doubt it. Mayweather will like to play it safe because his legacy depends on that 0, so it all depends on Pacman to give us an entertaining show.
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Who ever thought we'd be seeing this for real?!

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Mannys work rate is phenomenal.im convinced this will be his fight
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If he can keep it up, it's going to be a long night for Mayweather. His defence will have to be 110%.

It's being billed as the fight of the century, hope it lives up to that!
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ImysE30 wrote:If he can keep it up, it's going to be a long night for Mayweather. His defence will have to be 110%.

It's being billed as the fight of the century, hope it lives up to that!
I hope it lives up to expectation aswell.
Manny has knock out power.mayweather doesn't.
A slug fest would be nice.
A bit like haggler vs leonard
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ImysE30 wrote:If he can keep it up, it's going to be a long night for Mayweather. His defence will have to be 110%.

It's being billed as the fight of the century, hope it lives up to that!
I hope it lives up to expectation aswell.
Manny has knock out power.mayweather doesn't.
A slug fest would be nice.
A bit like haggler vs leonard
Mayweather has the skill to avoid knock out punches but Manny is open to knock out punches!
I don't think Mayweather will want a slug fest, I think that's the last thing he'll hope, he'll stick to his usual shoulder roll and counter punch.
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ImysE30 wrote:If he can keep it up, it's going to be a long night for Mayweather. His defence will have to be 110%.

It's being billed as the fight of the century, hope it lives up to that!
I hope it lives up to expectation aswell.
Manny has knock out power.mayweather doesn't.
A slug fest would be nice.
A bit like haggler vs leonard
Mayweather has the skill to avoid knock out punches but Manny is open to knock out punches!
I don't think Mayweather will want a slug fest, I think that's the last thing he'll hope, he'll stick to his usual shoulder roll and counter punch.
I make you 100%right. I still say manny just for work rate and power. Manny throws so many punches from all angles. But you are right he is vulnerable and we all know what mayweather will do.he fights the same in every fight.
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ImysE30 wrote:
whiterhino wrote: I hope it lives up to expectation aswell.
Manny has knock out power.mayweather doesn't.
A slug fest would be nice.
A bit like haggler vs leonard
Mayweather has the skill to avoid knock out punches but Manny is open to knock out punches!
I don't think Mayweather will want a slug fest, I think that's the last thing he'll hope, he'll stick to his usual shoulder roll and counter punch.
I make you 100%right. I still say manny just for work rate and power. Manny throws so many punches from all angles. But you are right he is vulnerable and we all know what mayweather will do.he fights the same in every fight.
I'm backing Manny but can just see Mayweather pointing his way to victory. He's a points fighter and will get majority decision IMO.

If Mayweather fights like his did against Maidana (first fight), Manny has got a big chance !
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Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:45 pm

Less then a month left peeps!

On another boxing related note did anyone see the kell brook Vs "Joke Joke" dan fight? The way Amir "Kahnt" is ducking him is actually comical now! :roll:


And the Anthony Joshua fight last night? I really cant wait untill they give Joshua a proper opponent so he can be fully tested as i think and hope he will go far!

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It's getting close, exciting times !! :D :D

It's more Brook's promoter Eddie Hearn, what a grade A prick !! It's funny how the 'Champion' is chasing the challenger? Sums up the difference in Khan/Brook.

Brook said after the Porter fight that Khan will now have to wait in the 'Queue' for his shot, must of been a really short one ! :mad: :mad:

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If I'm being honest, I got in to UFC a few years ago, and I've been a lifelong boxing fan, was even going to turn amateur when I was a teen.. but I just cannot watch it anymore without being bored to death!

I used to be the type who would defend boxing as an art and refined, when people would slate Mayweather, Klitchko fights for being dull and too defensive.. but now I'm no longer in denial.. if you watch UFC and get to know all the fighters, it just makes boxing tedious to watch.

Major UFC cards are always amazing in nearly every weight class, and a fight that you can't wait to watch happens multiple times a year.. boxing on the other hand.. it's more like once a decade a fight comes up that you HAVE to watch!
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I don't get how people want amir khan to fight against Kell brook as Kell brook isn't really going anywhere in his boxing career. Amir wants to go on and fight against either mayweather or Pacman (depending on who ever wins) and thereby cement his legacy and a huge bank account too.
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87mtech27 wrote:Kell brook isn't really going anywhere in his boxing career.
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Yeah so he's a belt holder? Why would Mayweather or Pac man want to fight Khan with his glass jaw with a number of losses on his record. Khans the one who's career is going nowhere..

Kell will probably fight whoever the winner is, for a unification of the division. They'll want that before they even think about throwing a bone to lil ol' Amir Khan lol.

Loads of big names for Kell to fight before Khan.. Thurman, Rios, marquez!
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Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:17 am

mtech - Kahn has already cemented his legacy as an overrated average boxer..here is the vid to prove it :chuckle:

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Haha great video! Can't beat a compilation of Khan knock outs.

How this guy got as far as he did with that chin, he should count his lucky stars. Although I suspect he'll be slurring his words when he hits his 40's.
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Cypriotgeeza wrote:mtech - Kahn has already cemented his legacy as an overrated average boxer..here is the vid to prove it :chuckle:

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Ouch :(

Khan vs Brooks would be a good British boxing match but if Khan is defeated/ knocked out by Brook then there goes his chance to go against either Mayweather or Pacman (he is bound to go against one of these two and both of them are soon to retire so he can't be wasting time against other boxers).

If he has to lose he may as well lose to one of the big shots in the states and be minted for life rather than risk it all against brook (although I believe he would beat brook and that they would fight eventually after after he's fought May or Pac).

I think Khan vs Adrian Broner would be a much more entertaining match, but unfortunately it's not likely to happen.
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Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:14 pm

Manny should win this,mayweathers hands are fooked so he can not punch as hard as he could.


Plus i do not want someone who calls himself "floyd money mayweather" and calls his entourage "the money making team" to win anything,its soooo crass!!
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Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:25 pm

He won't have to punch hard macca, hel just fight for a points win keep out pac mans way and do what he does best and avoid the brawl slug fest type of fight that pac man will want

I fear it will be a boring non event , really hope not , suppose it comes down to pac man and his training, preparation, plan abd execution
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