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Should his conviction stop him from playing as a professional

Yes- Clubs are correct in not signing him to play as a professional
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No - He served his time and should be allowed to carry on in his profession
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Kos wrote:Pony, he was on 20k a week

He'd be lucky if he got £1000 a week now.

So the bloke has no real other options to earn a very high income ?
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diable wrote:I don't like football players and the way they behave but there are enough girls out there that make a B line for them. Why do you think Natasha Giggs and Katie price where "popular"
How many guys has Katie price banged ?
What about Natalie giggs ?
Katie Price ANA Jordon many years ago was in the spotlight a lot, not the type of girl your mother would approve of.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/galleries/53 ... day/167750

Back in the day Jordan was fit

How many blokes has she banged ????
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:09 am

pony wrote:
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pony wrote: How many guys has Katie price banged ?
What about Natalie giggs ?
Katie Price ANA Jordon many years ago was in the spotlight a lot, not the type of girl your mother would approve of.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/galleries/53 ... day/167750

Back in the day Jordan was fit

How many blokes has she banged ????
don't worry about the blokes, but she's probably banged more women than you have :wink:
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diable wrote:
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diable wrote: The trouble is that is the same attitude that a lot of moronic footballers have of women, why do you do the same you have a Mother maybe sisters or a daughter, jeeez
:roll:

Here he is, Guardianista poacher turned gamekeeper. :roll:
The only orgasm you gave to a woman was your own over page 3 of the Sun.

8O :roll:
Christ almighty that's a sorry effort, even for you............ :D :roll:
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Kos wrote:
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diable wrote: Katie Price ANA Jordon many years ago was in the spotlight a lot, not the type of girl your mother would approve of.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/galleries/53 ... day/167750

Back in the day Jordan was fit

How many blokes has she banged ????
don't worry about the blokes, but she's probably banged more women than you have :wink:

I doubt it ! :-)
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:19 am

Human societies operate on a tacit moral code and this usually defines its laws ”“ paedophilia is a prime example of what is not acceptable, along with rape and murder.

In earlier times, anyone breaking these codes/laws would be shunned, or even put to death. We no longer live in such draconian times, but regrettably, society and its moral code is in decline, and certainly has been, markedly, over the last 30 years, which allows rapists, murderers and paedo’s to commit their crimes, do their time and then be allowed back into mainstream society, all in the name of rehabilitation.

Evan’s is a convicted rapist. Unfortunately, the fact that he is a footballer and works in an industry fuelled by obscene amounts of money (in the name of entertainment) and our celebrity culture (through easy exposure) allows him to be seen by many as the victim.
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pony wrote: Back in the day Jordan was fit
Jordan was NEVER fit.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:29 pm

Gert_8 wrote:Human societies operate on a tacit moral code and this usually defines its laws ”“ paedophilia is a prime example of what is not acceptable, along with rape and murder.

In earlier times, anyone breaking these codes/laws would be shunned, or even put to death. We no longer live in such draconian times, but regrettably, society and its moral code is in decline, and certainly has been, markedly, over the last 30 years, which allows rapists, murderers and paedo’s to commit their crimes, do their time and then be allowed back into mainstream society, all in the name of rehabilitation.

Evan’s is a convicted rapist. Unfortunately, the fact that he is a footballer and works in an industry fuelled by obscene amounts of money (in the name of entertainment) and our celebrity culture (through easy exposure) allows him to be seen by many as the victim.
Very true. Revolting creatures like Evans, John Terry and Joey Barton are the norm and about the only celebrity footballer who seems to behave and have something about him is David Beckham who appears to be a genuinely decent bloke.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:31 pm

What about when Mohammed (peace be upon him) had sex with a 9 year old girl ? Paedophile ?
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pony wrote:What about when Mohammed (peace be upon him) had sex with a 9 year old girl ? Paedophile ?
Let's not get into the recent Rotherham saga Soni. :D
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pony wrote:What about when Mohammed (peace be upon him) had sex with a 9 year old girl ? Paedophile ?
Let's not get into the recent Rotherham saga Soni. :D

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Kos wrote:
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pony wrote:What about when Mohammed (peace be upon him) had sex with a 9 year old girl ? Paedophile ?
Let's not get into the recent Rotherham saga Soni. :D

Good shout :thumb:
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:46 pm

Not only should he never play professionally, he should be made to give at least half of his fortune to the victim.

I voted Yes.
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Gert_8 wrote:Human societies operate on a tacit moral code and this usually defines its laws ”“ paedophilia is a prime example of what is not acceptable, along with rape and murder.

In earlier times, anyone breaking these codes/laws would be shunned, or even put to death. We no longer live in such draconian times, but regrettably, society and its moral code is in decline
This is somewhat true, with the proviso that many of the things we regard as morally unacceptable weren't necessarily regarded in the same way in the past. Yes, punishments were more brutal, but if anything our moral standards have been on a steep upward incline for the past five hundred years.

In the middle ages, rape was often not a criminal offence, and the guilty party was generally just required to pay compensation to the girl's father or husband, as he'd interfered with their property without permission. You paid about the same as for injuring someone's cow. In Germany in the 16th and 17th century, they had a really strong legal focus on the sick, twisted crime of oral sex which was considered the pinnacle of depraved immorality and was punishable by death. In contrast. sodomy, which had previously been the go-to sexual deviation for keen hangmen, became legally and socially acceptable in that region. Going back a bit further the Greeks and Romans viewed buggering a few pre-pubescent boys as a very civilized way to pass an afternoon with your mates...

Given the culture that prevailed at the time, I doubt very much if Ched Evans would have been convicted of this even 30 years ago, let alone 50 or 100....
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:21 pm

30 years ago the woman would have been laughed out of the police station
50 years ago she wouldnt have dared tell anyone
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snakebrain wrote: Going back a bit further the Greeks and Romans viewed buggering a few pre-pubescent boys as a very civilized way to pass an afternoon with your mates...

At least that answers the question of 'how to entertain Kos in Northern Ireland' :eek:
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snakebrain wrote: Going back a bit further the Greeks and Romans viewed buggering a few pre-pubescent boys as a very civilized way to pass an afternoon with your mates...
At least that answers the question of 'how to entertain Kos in Northern Ireland' :eek:
First time I've seen Kos and civilized in the same sentence. :D
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:12 am

So it continues

He was offered a contract abroad but he told he can not leave the UK

Oldham are considering offering him a contract and it is all kicking off again
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Simon Corney wrote:I know this is an argument people don't like but if he was an electrician and came out of jail he is entitled to work again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30678251

:roll: I'm not sure I would trust a former footballer with electricity.



Just a thought after reading that, hypothetically, if he his appeal is overturned. The payout for damages will be extraordinary.
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Simon Corney wrote:I know this is an argument people don't like but if he was an electrician and came out of jail he is entitled to work again.
This maybe true, however not many people would want to employ him, not good for business having a rapist on the books, he would of course have a criminal record so any employer looking to hire him would know and if he was self employed he should be forced to advertise the fact he is, John Smith, electrical contractor and convicted rapist.

So yes entitled to work, but hopefully not get any, turn to crime, go back to prison and get raped himself.

His life should be as ruined as the victim in my opinion.
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I've heard the victim has had to have an identity change twice because of the hate aimed towards her. She has moved and keeps getting exposed because these idiots think the rapist is innocent.
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Gert_8 wrote:I've heard the victim has had to have an identity change twice because of the hate aimed towards her. She has moved and keeps getting exposed because these idiots think the rapist is innocent.
Do falsly accused rapists get new identities ?
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Gert_8 wrote:I've heard the victim has had to have an identity change twice because of the hate aimed towards her. She has moved and keeps getting exposed because these idiots think the rapist is innocent.
Do falsly accused rapists get new identities ?


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Gert_8 wrote:I've heard the victim has had to have an identity change twice because of the hate aimed towards her. She has moved and keeps getting exposed because these idiots think the rapist is innocent.
Do falsly accused rapists get new identities ?
Are you in trouble?

:chuckle:

A jury has judged and convicted him as a rapist, so who is the falsly accused? :)
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Gert_8 wrote:I've heard the victim has had to have an identity change twice because of the hate aimed towards her. She has moved and keeps getting exposed because these idiots think the rapist is innocent.
Do falsly accused rapists get new identities ?


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A jury has judged and convicted him as a rapist, so who is the falsly accused? :)
Just curious if a bloke has ever been given a new identity because he has been falsly accused of rape

Genuine question
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Reverb....? Swagger....? I must be getting old.
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Kos wrote:
Gert_8 wrote:
A jury has judged and convicted him as a rapist, so who is the falsly accused? :)
Just curious if a bloke has ever been given a new identity because he has been falsly accused of rape

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No, never known that to be the case. In actual fact the accused is outed even before a verdict is reached.

Shit sticks, so the guys are usually knackered even if they are found to be innocent. This I agree needs to change.
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fuzzy wrote:Reverb....? Swagger....? I must be getting old.
More zone vocabulary lol

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Kos wrote:
Gert_8 wrote:
A jury has judged and convicted him as a rapist, so who is the falsly accused? :)
Just curious if a bloke has ever been given a new identity because he has been falsly accused of rape

Genuine question
No,but it might be in the future.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30693079
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Kos wrote: 4- Religious - Kinda obvious here, but the will scream "Jesus, oh my god"
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