E34 M5 anus blue 16/9/14

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Epic :D
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Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:08 pm

That M-tech wheel will go straight on, no messing because it has the later type wheel.
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Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:09 pm

Very nice..whens the c2 for sale?
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Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:11 pm

Sweet. I like that!!!
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Bag of coke in the toolkit? :wink:
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Bag of coke in the toolkit? :wink:
Nah, that'll be the jacking points........... :wink: :wink:

I know greys not popular but it does suit avus so well. That's a great looking car.

I've just taken charge again of my 2nd ever e34, a car I bought in 98 for big money and sold in 03. It's only a 93 525 (that's now rotten) but I loved it then and it's making me a bit moist for a 34 again. Simon was shocked I was getting nostalgic and was attached to it as I frag everything in sight! Barrys sport nearly copped for it the other day and it was only at mine for 24 hours! :D But I do like the old bus.

Great cars, the best they made I reckon.
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Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:36 pm

B7 wrote: Great cars, the best they made I reckon.
Definitely.

Only fault was the bloody steering box.

Loved my 530i.

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Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:50 pm

Great Buy :D
IMO this was the last great 5 series built, I look forward to the updates Si :)
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Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:45 pm

This has servotronic steering? its down as an option on the fairly empty list of options ticked!

What should the idle speed be when warm anyone? 900rpm right? As this runs a bit lower
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Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:20 pm

Simon13 wrote:This has servotronic steering? its down as an option on the fairly empty list of options ticked!

What should the idle speed be when warm anyone? 900rpm right? As this runs a bit lower

Servotronic is NASTY ! A bit like auto climate, you paid more and got inferior bitz :(
850 ish is about on the money, they are usually a little 'ragged'
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How does it compare to a 3.6 with regards to acceleration?
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I have always like avus. It looks so right with the grey lower sections. Ride height looks spot on too.

The wheels look flawless which is a bonus. Nice that it has had those expensive front discs changed as well.

Enjoy the M tax on parts mate! :eek:
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yeah steering feels very light at low speeds but doesn't tighten up as much as you would hope at speed. Theres still good feedback i'd say

RE idle its running a little lower than that it seems and is a bit boggy when pulling away. I've not had a chance to look but feels like an air leak maybe? Seems better when the engine is warm but its defo not right

Jon it feels a fair bit quicker than the 3.6 i didn't get to drive that but this has more torque. It still needs to rev to really go but its got good low end i'd say.
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e34s have really grown on me, epic chariots. :cool:
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:33 am

A healthy 3.6 vs 3.8 is a difference.. not much but the 3.8 is always the winner,, i dont give a flying fick what other 3.6 owners say ,, but 340 is more than 315 ponies,, the pull is a LOT more when giving a light press on the throttle..

the 3.8 is in the same league as the 5x serie with individual coil ,, etc ,, not the same old electric that 3.6 is based on..like M20.. M30 and M70

also another thing ... 3.8 use a DM flywheel ,, so that is the main reason why 3.8 feels a lot smoother vs 3.6 on idle............. change to SM flywheel and you have an engine,,,,,,,,,,that is ,, will be,,, and always stay as the greatest IL6 ITB engine EVER built by BMW motorsport...... so many horses that are left in the house and get free when using SM conversion.. i have not tried but a fellow i know.. David , http://classicmdautos.co.uk/
makes chrome moly flywheels and he says that the 3.8 is a blast after changing to the light weight flywheel

Simon.. i wish you all the best with this fantastic car... stunning color combo and the Bigblock IL6 G420 gearbox is the most rare gearbox EVER in the history of BMW only 752 made and ,, 139 in RHD sedan

truly a rare car and ALL in ,, in my opinion
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:26 am

Thats a lovely car Simon, can't wait to see it in the flesh.

Facelift E34s with those wider Kidney's look really really nice.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:10 am

He's already mentioned clutch and knowing Si's history with flywheels etc, This'll be gaining a few more ponies I feel :D
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:08 pm

A lightened fly wheel does not increase power or torque.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:36 pm

but it gets you more power to the road and is possibly the best mod for a stock e30 325i to the way it drives.

I've been thinking about a 3.6 flywheel and clutch but maybe a call to this David guy is in order
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:26 pm

But what are lighter flywheels like at cruising/part throttle driving?

I can see the advantages of it on an e34 with regards to the low end throttle response as they weight like 1600kgs. But I can see more disadvantages if it doesn't drive well in normal driving.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:45 pm

Simon13 wrote:maybe a call to this David guy is in order
I'm sure you will already know Dave ollie ? He's a decent guy knows his 34' M5's he has about 20 In the passage,
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:51 pm

Spot on Simon Pleased you got sorted with one in the end, what bashed the door in then?

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Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:14 pm

Simon13 wrote:but it gets you more power to the road and is possibly the best mod for a stock e30 325i to the way it drives.

I've been thinking about a 3.6 flywheel and clutch but maybe a call to this David guy is in order
Of course they are an improvement but to clarify they do not give power/torque gains.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:38 pm

jonb wrote:But what are lighter flywheels like at cruising/part throttle driving?

I can see the advantages of it on an e34 with regards to the low end throttle response as they weight like 1600kgs. But I can see more disadvantages if it doesn't drive well in normal driving.
there are no detrimental effects to how the car drives in any situations. Only improvements.

The door was bashed in by some kind person hitting it in their car and driving off! This happened to the previous keeper. So i'm after a door as it fubared

topless i've heard of him but never met him


I've looked through its history and its had a visit to superchips back in the day, there are a few dyno graphs in the history showing over 340 bhp and 330lbs. I'd take it with a pinch of salt but so i'm told they think the mill on this one is a good'un. I've no reference to compare it from but i've wound it right up now and it flies! Fantastic howl along the way too the engine note is awesome

Its much more fun to drive than the bi turbo as it all feels much better balanced in terms of the whole setup
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:49 pm

So you took it above 5k then? :)
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Its much more fun to drive than the bi turbo as it all feels much better balanced in terms of the whole setup
Indeed.......... very ninmble,, and the steering is so much better vs 535 as BT is based on

an E34 M5 is ALWAYS .. i repeat always more fun to drive vs the BT on everyday use,,, i have experience with both,, had both at the same time etcetc...

but when the roads get open ... nothing will subtitute an ALPINA B10 BITURBO.......in my opinion
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http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/ ... B6WQfldUuQ


I went to see this poor sack of sh!t yesterday with a view to break it. So this is just a heads up. Its done 190,000 miles no history, wouldn't start it up as it has no petrol, the battery was dead, huge rust holes and bodgery in the engine bay. The vendor wouldn't budge on price at all so i've left it but i was rather hard for the interior which needs refurbing but i thought isn't too far gone, check it out. Plus amazingly it wasn't all damp and minging in there


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I've never seen an interior like it in any e34! He failed to mention the ultra ultra rare heated rear seats aswell as fronts! Even the a b c pillar trims are in leather, plus the rear parcel shelf

Even the sunvisors are leather, headining was alcantara. Theres no gapes in it so i reckon it would come back to life with a trim restorer? If its broke i'll be having it i hope

Shame as it would of been an amazing car when it was new, i'm probably better off relaxing on the interior front and sort any more important issues first
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:36 am

Reading the advert for the car and some of the comments you made

The seller sounds like a right pretentious prick

I mean, is this stuff really necessary: There is no need for her to sell, we have ample space to store it and if it doesnt sell I will get it back to its former glory once i've sorted the rest of the fleet.

What a jumped up penis.
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:26 pm

Hardly pretentious.

Reads to me like a clear message of do not rock up thinking you are going to nick it for £2.50 as I'm not desperate for cash.

I do think its overpriced though and Simons offer was fair.

If I was selling scrap that had a value I too would make it clear to the bruvs and losers not to waste theirs and more importantly MY time coming to kick tyres and low ball me.

Prime example, when I sold my M3 I told the guy on the phone the price and I won't take a penny less so don't waste your time if you are coming to bid me down.

He turned up paid and left.
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:40 pm

I agree Barry, but we are talking about 2 separate points here

You are effectively saying "no offers" which is fine, I agree it's being clear from the start, setting expectations and stating your position - great stuff!!

I am saying.....is the "I'm minted, got a massive house, loads of room and a huge fleet of cars...." is that really needed.......

Anyway....Si, i think that extended leather is very nice but could potentially cost a bit to get looking perfect. Maybe it's worth looking about for a nice black leather interior ?
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:25 pm

Well I think you are being over harsh tbh.

Bet you wouldn't actually call him a jumped up penis....
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:54 pm

of course not!! yer i was being too harsh in hindsight.

Looking forward to seeing the car on Thursday :)
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Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:31 am

So the M5 has had an odd running fault from cold so with some research online i decided first port to try would be changing the air temp and coolant temp sensors as if either are faulty they'll give the ECU an incorrect reading. Plus they're not expensive at £20 each. Although i had been thinking the new refurbed MAF might be at fault - they're NLA now and £950 new and specific to the b38 engine only!

I found this quote which sums it up perfectly what was happening to me but all the time


"Occasionally on a cold start, the B38 (Motronic 3.3) in the E34 will be idling about 500 rpm instead of 800. It sounds rougher and if you add a light touch on the accelerator the engine "bogs" briefly, then speeds up. Although I haven't experienced it, my wife says on occasion she can smell gas (rich mixture?). If you proceed down our street without warming the car (20 mph speed limit), it can buck or lurch for several blocks, cured by a firmer press on the pedal. Leaving a stop sign, unless you are generous with the gas prior to slipping the clutch, it threatens to stall.

As it is intermittent, the independent BMW mechanic we spoke to hasn't been able to reproduce the symptoms. It only happens from a cold start and it goes away in less than a mile, although you can notice some slight surging at higher engine speeds until the oil reaches full operating temperature. We have recently switched to 94 octane gas without ethanol, but it has happened once since, so that doesn't seem to be the issue.

Any thoughts?"


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After 50 or so miles i've got a much better idle, as it was more like 600rpm before and quite rough. It drives 100% better also so its helped alot i feel. I'm sure i can get it running even better still when i sync the throttle bodies and check valve clearances etc
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