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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:26 pm

Race components of any kind aren't normally suitable for road cars. Fluids, suspension joints, clutches, dampers, brakes - you're looking for a life of several hours at most on a race car.
A few years ago I stood in for an injured team member of a professional race team for a few meets. Brake fluid was changed after every practice and qualifying session, engine oil at the beginning of the meet and before the race, new brake discs and pads for every meet, etc., etc. All very different from a road car, where things are expected to last several months at least, up to several years.
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:30 pm

The wear and rear of road car components which is spread over months / years is condensed into hours for race cars (as they are driven harder / flat out over a few hours) where road cars are generally driven sedately over months / years so takes a lot longer to achieve same wear

In saying that race components (I am assuming) are built to take the harsh punishment but don't have longevity designed in mind ?
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:33 pm

I've not used yet! Might be worth an exchange then. Reviews of it were very good, although didnt specify a vehicle type!

Might be worth updating that wiki, as all the recommended brands on there seem to be race types, Millers CFS, Redline etc.
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:35 pm

Read what it says on the label ?
If it says for race cars no good
If it says for road cars then could be ok ?

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I plugged in my details into Castrol website and they recommend Castrol Edge Full Synthetic 5W-40
You could also go for Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 10W-40 which is for high mileage engines above 75k mileage
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:36 pm

pony wrote:Read what it says on the label ?
If it says for race cars no good
If it says for road cars then could be ok ?
Who knows anymore.. The wiki lied.. I have nothing left to believe in.
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:37 pm

Mitchen wrote:
pony wrote:Read what it says on the label ?
If it says for race cars no good
If it says for road cars then could be ok ?
Who knows anymore.. The wiki lied.. I have nothing left to believe in.
You should believe in children, because they are our future. I heard that somewhere... :)
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:42 pm

Gert_8 wrote:
Mitchen wrote:
pony wrote:Read what it says on the label ?
If it says for race cars no good
If it says for road cars then could be ok ?
Who knows anymore.. The wiki lied.. I have nothing left to believe in.
You should believe in children, because they are our future. I heard that somewhere... :)


Gert's little book of cliches, perhaps? winkeye
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:44 pm

bab-91 wrote:
Gert_8 wrote:
Mitchen wrote: Who knows anymore.. The wiki lied.. I have nothing left to believe in.
You should believe in children, because they are our future. I heard that somewhere... :)


Gert's little book of cliches, perhaps? winkeye
I think it was Witney Houston :)
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Her little book was filled with little sachets of white powder.



Not one liners.... or maybe?
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bab-91 wrote:Her little book was filled with little sachets of white powder.



Not one liners.... or maybe?
Hey, leave her alone. She made a mistake, alright?! At least it wasn't as big as the one made by Mitchen above!! :)
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bab-91 wrote:Her little book was filled with little sachets of white powder.



Not one liners.... or maybe?
Hey, leave her alone. She made a mistake, alright?! At least it wasn't as big as the one made by the WIKI above!! :)
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:D
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I look forward to Mr Grr's dry response. :)
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:52 pm

bab-91 wrote:I look forward to Mr Grr's dry response. :)
Haha

"What sort of twat wouldn't realise they were intended for people racing their cars" :twisted:
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:52 pm

So gert when u getting your insp2 done ?
Presumably your buying all the parts
Have you got any labour quotes yet unless you DIY ?
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:53 pm

So much fail in 3 hours..

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pony wrote:So gert when u getting your insp2 done ?
Presumably your buying all the parts
Have you got any labour quotes yet ?
And what oil you getting? Check the wiki, it'll give you some good options.
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:55 pm

Mitchen wrote:
pony wrote:So gert when u getting your insp2 done ?
Presumably your buying all the parts
Have you got any labour quotes yet ?
And what oil you getting? Check the wiki, it'll give you some good options.
I am using Castrol Magnatec 10W-40
And I bought a spare 4 litre engine oil as well so when I use all of that I might go for full synthetic at the next scheduled service.
Was serviced in March/April
Think I only done 3k miles
3 inspection lights left!!!?
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Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:56 pm

No Pone, I haven't had the Cabbie out all summer. It's got an interior that needs to go in, so when I get the chance that's going in and then I have to get the MOT done before I can tax it. It will have the service done at that point. All before October, so I can get a last displayable ticket. :D
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Gert doesn't do manual labour. He just has one of the young village lads do all the hard work, while he watches.
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I could go for either of the two recommended. I did less than 100 miles in it last year. Weather wasn't good enough. This year however I haven't had the time. :(
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Gert_8 wrote:No Pone, I haven't had the Cabbie out all summer. It's got an interior that needs to go in, so when I get the chance that's going in and then I have to get the MOT done before I can tax it. It will have the service done at that point. All before October, so I can get a last displayable ticket. :D

Round my way I was getting ridiculous quotes for insp2
Dealer was £1k (parts and labour)
Other local garages it varied but I don't know £300-600 (think that was labour only)
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bab-91 wrote:Gert doesn't do manual labour. He just has one of the young village lads do all the hard work, while he watches.
Manicured innit! :)
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bab-91 wrote:Gert doesn't do manual labour. He just has one of the young village lads do all the hard work, while he watches.
Manicured innit! :)

Manual, Gert. Manual! I didn't say Manuel!


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Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:29 pm

This thread has run its course
It got interesting when debating which engine oil is best as something we can all learn which is best for E30s
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Didn't want to revive this thread from the dead, but got the following response from Opie Oils re Golf competition racing oil in normal road E30's..

"The Gulf Competition is not just for Race use, it is also perfectly fine to use in passenger vehicles on the road. The Benefits of a ester based Synthetic Oil are: better wear protection and therefore extended engine life. Most synthetics give better MPG They flow better when cold and are more thermally stable when hot, also Surface-active meaning a thin layer of oil on the surfaces at all times (in ester based oils such as the Gulf competition)"
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Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:45 pm

Mitchen wrote: "The Gulf Competition is not just for Race use, it is also perfectly fine to use in passenger vehicles on the road."
I don't doubt that it is, but what I posted about real 'race' parts still applies, although most of what you'll find on ebay is more "boy race" than genuine "race".
As an example a genuine "race" suspension joint is likely to have little in the way of weather protection, and there's no reason for real competition fluids to have any long term acting additives.
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Yeah however shortly after Opie replied I found this from the horses mouth ...

"Use in Passenger Vehicles:
While these oils are excellent for motorsport use, they are not recommended for use in road cars, especially if the car or its engine is still under the original manufacturers’ warranty."

http://www.gulfoil.ie/assets/Uploads/At ... tition.pdf



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Mitchen wrote:Yeah however shortly after Opie replied I found this from the horses mouth ...

"Use in Passenger Vehicles:
While these oils are excellent for motorsport use, they are not recommended for use in road cars, especially if the car or its engine is still under the original manufacturers’ warranty."

http://www.gulfoil.ie/assets/Uploads/At ... tition.pdf



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So in short, listen to the manufacturer and not Opie oils!
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Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:41 am

Re: Engine Oil
I contacted BMW Park Lane and their BMW Master Technician recommended for E30 325i
BMW High Power Special Oil

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This is what is recommended by BMW
The engine oil grade is 10W-40
This is a semi-synthetic engine oil when I enquired further.
This could quite possibly be Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 but in BMW branded bottle.

The Castrol website recommend Castrol Edge Full Synthetic 0W-40. This is most likely more expensive than Castrol Magnatec 10W-40.
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pony wrote:Re: Engine Oil
I contacted BMW Park Lane and their BMW Master Technician recommended for E30 325i
BMW High Power Special Oil

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This is what is recommended by BMW
The engine oil grade is 10W-40
This is a semi-synthetic engine oil when I enquired further.
This could quite possibly be Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 but in BMW branded bottle.

The Castrol website recommend Castrol Edge Full Synthetic 0W-40. This is most likely more expensive than Castrol Magnatec 10W-40.
I suppose that if it costs more,did you get a price,it must be better!

I use exactly the same stuff,same rating,same BSI standard,but I buy it in a 25 litre mini barrel for about £60 a time from my local oil wholesaler.
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I didn't get a price.
So you use BMW branded engine oil :-) ?
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pony wrote:I didn't get a price.
So you use BMW branded engine oil :-) ?
Try reading my post again! :D
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