Inspection II Service

[bss325i]

Look, magnatech is not a crap oil, You really think a manufacturer like BMW is going to recommend a crap oil?!

Show me proof of where its crap and I might change my tune but I doubt you will.

Ive done Nearly 40k in my 325i now on magnatech and its not grenaded its self, has no oil consumption between changes, looks the same colour inside as when it did nearly 40k ago, still sounds the same and I would be willing to bet there no wear to the cam or rockers.

Even with me driving it!

Ask Pete was he uses in an M20 Simon, and what he has been for the last 30 years!

And don't come at me with tyre analogies, that's totally different.

And Brian, if an M20 has poor oil flow to the rockers/cam the it needs to come apart to be fixed, not limped along on some thinner oil.

Cure the issue not mask it!

As I said, there is NOTHING wrong with using a 10w40 semi if changed often on a heathy engine.

[pony]

I had a quick go in the Castrol Website to see what engine oil they recommend. The oil they recommended was Castrol Edge 5W-40.
What oil would BMW Dealer recommend or use should you use them to do BMW Oil Service ?

[hennared323i]

Popcorn ordered

[bss325i]

I had a quick go in the Castrol Website to see what engine oil they recommend. The oil they recommended was Castrol Edge 5W-40.
What oil would BMW Dealer recommend or use should you use them to do BMW Oil Service ?

10w40 castrol magnatec!

That's what every BMW dealer ive worked for and ML use.

[pony]

Re:
Engine Oil
Mobil 1 10W-40
Full Synthetic
For high mileage engines over 75k mileage
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/Mot ... 0W-40.aspx#

Shell Helix HX7 10W-40
Part Synthetic
http://www.shell.co.uk/gbr/products-ser ... 10w40.html

Castrol recommend on their website Edge 0W-40 Full Synthetic using oil selector and selecting E30 325i
The only 10W-40 they do is Magnatec. This is part synthetic.

[Simon13]

You can argue the toss about it but is crap oil. Infact its more mineral oil than synthetic. Ring up opie oils see what they say about it! Pete can use whatever oil he likes thats fine, use halfords oil. It will run fine. As said M20s aren't that fussy over oils. No sweat off my nose ive just stated the facts. As said no one is holding a gun to your head when it comes to choosing oil.

BMW castrol is just a cushty commercial agreement. Do you honestly think they are the only company that can make oil to meet the demands of a their engines?! The main dealer brain washed to the core!

I think the amount tyre technology and oil technology have moved on since the e30 makes it really rather relevant.

Get an oil temp / pressure guage fitted and you'll soon see the difference between oil grades and how they'll give different figures at operating temps and beyond when pushing hard.

[Gert_8]

You can argue the toss about it but is crap oil. Infact its more mineral oil than synthetic. Ring up opie oils see what they say about it! Pete can use whatever oil he likes thats fine, use halfords oil. It will run fine. As said M20s aren't that fussy over oils. No sweat off my nose ive just stated the facts. As said no one is holding a gun to your head when it comes to choosing oil.

BMW castrol is just a cushty commercial agreement. Do you honestly think they are the only company that can make oil to meet the demands of a their engines?! The main dealer brain washed to the core!

I think the amount tyre technology and oil technology have moved on since the e30 makes it really rather relevant.

Get an oil temp / pressure guage fitted and you'll soon see the difference between oil grades and how they'll give different figures at operating temps and beyond when pushing hard.

That all makes perfect sense to me, but you are questioning Pete's encyclopaedic knowledge of lubricants....?!

[Gert_8]

See Si's reference above.

[pony]

You can argue the toss about it but is crap oil. Infact its more mineral oil than synthetic. Ring up opie oils see what they say about it! Pete can use whatever oil he likes thats fine, use halfords oil. It will run fine. As said M20s aren't that fussy over oils. No sweat off my nose ive just stated the facts. As said no one is holding a gun to your head when it comes to choosing oil.

BMW castrol is just a cushty commercial agreement. Do you honestly think they are the only company that can make oil to meet the demands of a their engines?! The main dealer brain washed to the core!

I think the amount tyre technology and oil technology have moved on since the e30 makes it really rather relevant.

Get an oil temp / pressure guage fitted and you'll soon see the difference between oil grades and how they'll give different figures at operating temps and beyond when pushing hard.

That all makes perfect sense to me, but you are questioning Pete's encyclopaedic knowledge of lubricants....?!

Innit!!!! PacerPete been changing engine oils before I was born.
I did go in Opie Oils website and they recommended various different brands for engine oil of grade 10W-40 (Semi-synthetic) including Castrol Magnatec, Shell Helix etc

[pony]

I did text Pacer about this topic and he is in agreement about part synthetic for BMW E30s

In typical Pacer fashion this is his reply
"Because they are clueless cocks. Magnatec, a good filter and 5k changes are more than sufficient for an E30 in normal use.
Dare I say it is probably a better oil than the dealers were putting on them back in the day."

[bss325i]

Seriously Simon, unless you come up with some factually evidence that castrol 10w40 magnatec is a bad oil other than some bulls hit opinion you've had for far too long then that's all it will ever be.

You even say yourself "it will run fine" so why keep spouting this crap about magnatec being a crap oil?

Obviously a fully synthetic oil is better than a semi but we are taking about its use in an M20 engine of which a semi fine for a road car.

I'd be more worried about other things if your going to be tearing about on the limiter all the time.

As for the castrol/BMW tie up, don't be so f ucking patronising! Obviously there are other 10w40 Semi's that are fine for use in an M20! The "main dealer brainwash" retort is such a pathetic thing to churn out in a discussion!

Tyre technology has less relevance as the are FAR too many variables when it comes to tyres.

[pony]

Obviously a fully synthetic oil is better than a semi but we are taking about its use in an M20 engine of which a semi fine for a road car.

I'd be more worried about other things if your going to be tearing about on the limiter all the time.

Tyre technology has less relevance as the are FAR too many variables when it comes to tyres.

So in conclusion ....
Semi-synthetic is fine for M20 engines
Full synthetic 10W-40 is better for protection from wear and tear / cooling / lubrication for M20 engines ?

The only mainstream premium oil manufacturer that do full synthetic 10W-40 is Mobil 1.

Tyres
- if only they made Michelin Pilot Supersports in E30 325i required tyre sizes.

What other items would you be worried about if you on the limiter ?

[bab-91]

So, what oil is better?

[Demlotcrew]

Oh guys, seriously? Come on!

You only need to look at the data sheets to compare a semi with a fully blown ester (which are way better at all operating parameters). Then if you account for all the anti-friction additives, detergents and fuel dilution inhibitors that you don't get in a semi, that extra £13 soon becomes well worth it!

Pete/BMW/Barry have a business to run, being competitively priced by stocking oil that covers the majority of cars is by far more of an agenda than how good it is for the engine.

[bss325i]

I use it in my own M20. No profit agender with this one Andrew.

[Demlotcrew]

Baz, its not a bad oil, don't get me wrong I use it in my mums M54 (cheap at Tesco as Aldi dont sell oil).....but if you need ultimate protection then its not fit for purpose.

I think this is what Simon is trying to say?

[Gert_8]

So, what oil is better?

Hahaha. I wasn't even referring to Pete and engine oil, more his knowledge of "alternative" lubricants - tried and tested on The Pone.

[Simon13]

Baz, its not a bad oil, don't get me wrong I use it in my mums M54 (cheap at Tesco as Aldi dont sell oil).....but if you need ultimate protection then its not fit for purpose.

I think this is what Simon is trying to say?

Yes, i won't go on as Barold will argue the toss anyhow

[bss325i]

Ok then for the sake of peace let's agree that magnatec may not the the ultimate oil but its not crap and fine in an old M20 boat anchor?

[pony]

So which is the ultimate engine oil for M20s ?

[Mitchen]

So which is the ultimate engine oil for M20s ?

The wiki is infallible

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/index.php/Oil

[Simon13]

the ultimate oil is the one you choose for your needs and budget!

[pony]

the ultimate oil is the one you choose for your needs and budget!

So according to the wiki is Full Synthetic Engine Oil 5W-40 or possibly 0W-40
I would only stick with Castrol, Shell or Mobil 1 though.

[Mitchen]

i bought this.. really good ishhh

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181244263281? ... EBIDX%3AIT

[pony]

i bought this.. really good ishhh

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181244263281? ... EBIDX%3AIT

That engine oil is for racing

Says up to 2 litres engines

Anything larger than that for short races only

[Mitchen]

i bought this.. really good ishhh

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181244263281? ... EBIDX%3AIT

That engine oil is for racing

Says up to 2 litres engines

Anything larger than that for short races only

Well that's just great! As recommended by the wiki

[Mitchen]

I've got a 320i which is a 2 litre, small saloon.. so all good no?

[pony]

I was just reading what it says on the label

[Gert_8]

I've got a 320i which is a 2 litre, small saloon.. so all good no?

Come and talk to us when you can afford to run a real engine

[Mitchen]

Haha you're making me second guess myself. But yeah, it's cool.

[bss325i]

Race oil in a 320i auto?

[Mitchen]

Race oil in a 320i auto?

For when I'm racing the 2 metres space i get in moving traffic