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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:23 pm

Right, as most of you know i lost the love of my life due to being out here in Italy and hardly seeing her. I was and i'm still gutted about it, and i decided to make my stay here worth while by trying to pay off all my debts by the time i come home. I blamed my 2 E30's for it cause i could have used the Ԛ£thousands i spent on them to pay off my debts and i wouldn't have had to come out here. As a result i decided to sell my blue cab to help. The car owes me about Ԛ£15k, but i was going to sell it for about Ԛ£4k cause i gave the car to a so called friend who wanted to buy it and he used and abused the car all summer without paying a penny, so i took the fact that the car needed some money spending on it to make it blinging again into account with the Ԛ£4k price tag.

Now i've been thinking that if i sell the car for Ԛ£4k, i'd loose over Ԛ£10k. I'd also eventually have to go and buy another car to run around in as the Rieger just would not stand up to every day life and i could not afford another Ԛ£5k respray on it (Was thinking of a mint E30 cab or E36 cab), but that would set me back fat Ԛ£dollar, so i would have lost all that money on the blue one for nothing.

Now my dilema is do i bite my toungue and get the blue one fixed and keep her knowing she's an excellent car (bought from a dealer with only 2 owners and now has the Rieger engine which is low miles) or do i keep to my original plan, sell her, use the money towards my debts, but later having to spend even more money to buy another car? :(

Ever since i saw this car i've been in love with it and where as the Rieger is mental, this will be nice and smooth with the Euro look. I could take the kit off the blue one and creat something like this for about Ԛ£4k including a nice respray. Please, please help me decide. I know this may not sound serious or like a dilema, but it is to me :wink:

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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:30 pm

genuine boner,,, that is fucking gorgeous,,,,

what body kit is that on thre?? its not too bad boy,,, but its not so standard,, its just smooth and cool... THEM WHEELS!

where did you get so much money in the first place to get such pimped cars
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:31 pm

keep what you have got fella (blue cab), that way no surprises, then sell the kit off the blue one and any other morsels you no longer need and get to work.

The car isn't costing you anything providing you can keep it somewhere free of charge and with the crazy money you are on fella, Ԛ£4K probably won't make that much difference would it?

Sorry that sounds a bit blunt when i read it back, but no offence intended. :cool:

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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:33 pm

Tough choice mate, if what you need is a sensible car then i would be tempted to get rid of the blue cab, like you say, its really not an every day car!

It depends what you want out of the car that would replace it? You could buy an e36 318is for 2k, it would be cheap to insure and maintain and would go on forever.

But if you want your every day car to stand out like all your cars do :cool: you would end up out of pocket by selling the cab as you would have to pump more cash into a new project.

Personally, id sell the cab, put half towards the debts and keep half for buying a respectable run around car, thats just me though.
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:51 pm

:D 2 replies and a 50/50 split. Now you know why i'm in 2 minds :D

Lee no offence taken. I asked for openions so an honest openion is what i'm expecting. I already have a little 1.4 CL auto Polo with only 35k miles that i use as a everyday run around, but it's not a car really. I love it to bits cause i can just jump in and drive unlike the BM's, but it just aint there like the E30. What i wanted was a nice cab that i'd still feel good in when the sun comes out (When ever that is :D ), but that i dont have to pump as much into or is not as mental as the Rieger. The Rieger is my baby and i'd sell by left testicle and even consider selling the right one too before i part with it and that's why i dont want to abuse her cause everything on that car is top dollar. Like i said selling the blue one will mean loosing Ԛ£10+ and having to spend more money at a later stage to replace it, but now i can keep her and only have to spend Ԛ£4k on her and have another fantastic car that hasn't cost me a lot winkeye More openions please guys.
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:52 pm

Ben,

Keep the Blue one m8,It owes you too much to give it away for silly money..Work hard,pay back yer debts,then reinses yer sitaution..

Even if you Spend a lil more back on the car to get it tip-top shouldnt be a problem as you would spend it anyway on yer 'run-around' as you call it. (yea-right!)

Just dont go to town on the blue one,do the minimum you can do but also what you could live with..

How much work would be involved in getting it back to basic lines and selling the one-off body kit yer got to help pay towards the cost?

You got basic decisions really bud:

If you sell the Blue one.yer outa pocket AND you would spend another 4-5 or even more on something else,you know you would

You would spend less getting the blue one back to scratch AND not be outa pocket by selling it..

Or you could get the blue one back to basic lines and sell the BodyKit if poss to help fund it

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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:03 pm

I'm lucky cause my mate that done the Rieger owes me so will do most of the work cheaper. I've had the Rieger resprayed twice and the blue one done twice by him, so he's had over Ԛ£12k out of me over the last year or so. He actually suggested ripping the kit of the blue one and starting all over again. I love the kit on that Euro one i've posted and the whole lot only cost about Ԛ£600. I could go for that and sell my original kit (Which i will do). I'd also change the colour cause Ԛ£150 a litre for the current paint is just madness and anyway the flip thing is not happening anymore. I'd go for a flat colour, and some nice rims and that's about all that needs doing really. I could also take my time as the car is at the bodyshop and my mate wont mind cause he know's there is money in it for him so i could do it slowly over the next few months before the summer.

To be honest i've sorced a E36 M3 engine that i was gonna chuck into the Rieger, but i could use that money to do the blue one instead as the Rieger isn't a speed car and the current 2.7 in there is more than enough for you to hit 140mph (I know) so i wont really be loosing any money really winkeye
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:15 pm

See.. I speak the words of Wisdom..

Got-a-be the way to go Ben,you got the best of both worlds then and dont have to spend truck loads more..
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:17 pm

E36 m3 engine in the flip cab & redo the bodywork etc when you get round to it. I reckon the new engine would get you interested in it again! :D
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:27 pm

That's just it thoug Ziggy. I dont want to be interested again :D

I calculated the other day that i've spent over Ԛ£100k on cars over the years and all i have to show for it is my 2 E30's and a 1.4 CL Polo and that's not a good return in anyones language. I've been blessed to have earned enough over the years that i should not be in debt, but i've squandered the money of flash cars and stuff and i'm through with it now mate, hence why i want to keep the Riger for special occassions, have a nice Euro look Cab for everyday use and keep the Polo as my work horse cause it's fantastic for moving things or going to work on the door cause i know i dont have to worry about it being damaged and stuff.

I really wanted that M3 engine, but Jamz you're right. Better to spend the money on getting the blue one sorted, cause the Rieger can wait. After this years show's it will be retired any way. I wanted the engine to get another feature, but a feature dont put food on your table, pay your bills or put clothes on your back. Besides i've had 2 full features plus cuntless amount of pictures in the mags. I also won 4 awards from only 2 shows last year. Hopefully i can pick up a few more this year and leave the modding game to other mugs :D
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:30 pm

Wasn't the Blue one a Motorsport to start off with...?

I reckon you could stick it on Ebay and get more than Ԛ£4k for it. It's worth listing it on a 1p or 5p day and seeing what happens. At least it'll cost you nothing to do.

If it doesn't sell, you can decide what to do with it then. It's got all the interior in it already to make a sweet Euro look motor, so strip the bodykit, smooth the bad boy out and THEN have another lovely looking motor to rumble around in.

Good thing is, at least you know the car already and don't run the risk of buying a sausage...

Tough choice though... but the dark blue Euro cabby does look rather nice.

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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:39 pm

Geeman wrote:Wasn't the Blue one a Motorsport to start off with...?

I reckon you could stick it on Ebay and get more than Ԛ£4k for it. It's worth listing it on a 1p or 5p day and seeing what happens. At least it'll cost you nothing to do.

If it doesn't sell, you can decide what to do with it then. It's got all the interior in it already to make a sweet Euro look motor, so strip the bodykit, smooth the bad boy out and THEN have another lovely looking motor to rumble around in.

Good thing is, at least you know the car already and don't run the risk of buying a sausage...

Tough choice though... but the dark blue Euro cabby does look rather nice.

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just this time keep it useable mate

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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:40 pm

i wouldnt sell, purely for the fact ull loose so much money,,, should at least get ur money worth... loosing more then half value,,, mental.. i personally.. and probably have a worse threashold of loss.. i hate it... i wouldnt be able to do that...

unless your on MEGA bucks, id keep ...
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:44 pm

That's what i like to hear. I was leaning slightly more towards striiping the blue one down and making the Euro look thing out of it, but though i's ask you guys 1st and i would have listend if the majority had said dont Euro it :D

Daz your car is in good hans buddy :wink:

Looks like my M3 dream is over now :cry:
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:58 pm

Hey bootyman!

got yourself a bit of a Dilemma there...

Way i'd see it is

1) got a good car to start off with in the Blue cab
2)Ebay 1 and 5p listing days DONT include cars :x
3)you have 2 other cars
4)you have Debts...

If I were you, I'd Launch either the blue cab or the other one for as much as I could get for it, and put the money towards my debt

therefore, 1 less car to tax/MOT, less debts to pay off, and a less heavy mind at the end of the day...

At the end of the day the 1.4 polo does A-B as well as any of your other cars!

If you get yourself on an even keel, you'd be able to take your time and get a good euro look cab done, using your contacts to get cheap parts...

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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:07 pm

Valid point there Neil. Only problem is i cant sell the Polo cause that's my workhorse. I'm also back on the doors at weekends and i cant take a nice car just in case. You know how people are when they are pissed. I cant drive the Rieger everyday cause it will just fall apart. That leaves the blue car and the question is straigt forward really. Sell it and lose Ԛ£10 knowing i'd eventually have to spend more than the Ԛ£4k i sold her for to replace her or spend another Ԛ£4k on it and have a good car that i know the history of and that i could drive most weekend and still feel good about it? :(
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:24 pm

bootyman wrote:Valid point there Neil. Only problem is i cant sell the Polo cause that's my workhorse. I'm also back on the doors at weekends and i cant take a nice car just in case. You know how people are when they are pissed. I cant drive the Rieger everyday cause it will just fall apart. That leaves the blue car and the question is straigt forward really. Sell it and lose Ԛ£10 knowing i'd eventually have to spend more than the Ԛ£4k i sold her for to replace her or spend another Ԛ£4k on it and have a good car that i know the history of and that i could drive most weekend and still feel good about it? :(
was never suggesting selling the best car you have (polo :mad: :P ) its a joke, honest!

I se what you're saying about the Ԛ£4k issue, but you of all folks should know that you never get back what you spend on a car!

I get the impression that you're the kinda guy who likes new challenges-so would sticking with the blue one not end up irritating you?
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:30 pm

I guess it depends how bad your debt situation is? Your talking a difference of 8k between selling the cab for 4k and spending 4k on it and keeping.

Is 8k going to make a big difference to your debts? If yes, can you afford not to sell it? If you can afford to, keep it as its obviously a car you love.
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:47 pm

You could list the blue car on french or german ebay! They love there E30's
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Post Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:54 pm

thats a very nice car for the money 8O
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:07 am

i would keep the blue one if you want to buy another one and modify that. it just dont make sense to sell up then spend more by buyin another thats probably not as good as the blue one. at least you know its history.

and it will be cheaper to strip and rebuild. plus you have the leathers, if you were to buy a new one and start again, i know you would do a retrim on it.

so keep what you got and work on that.
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:53 am

i think you should keep them both bootyman
and just concentrate on your debts for now and
cpme back to them after. :(

i posted that exact e30 cab a few months back
that is one of the cars that made me wanna go euro.
the kit is an e46 m3 style and looks quite good mate.

im glad in a way that in the next few years i wont be
earning this sorta money and therefore wont ever have
to put myself in this kind of dilemma.

i feel for ya buddy.....2 absolutely awesome cars that
many of us could only dream of owning 1

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Post Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:34 am

i might be repeating whats been said but the way i see it is if you sell the blue one, you, and everyone else on this site knows you will just buy another one and throw loads of money into because its what you love doing, its your passion ben, no stopping it. That car you have posted pics of is nice i have to agree but in my opinion it isnt a patch on your red one dude, but if you like the look of it do as you say and start over on your blue one and give it that look. That way, like you say you
1 wont be losing a shed load of money that your just gonna throw into another car
2 keep the car that obviously means a lot to you
3 you have a car that you know and trust rather than getting involved with one that you, as far as i can tell, dont know a lot about
4 plus it will be your car and not one you have bought already done
why buy one with the look you want when you have one you can give the look you want with your own personal touches

If i was you i'd stay put with what you have and as far as the debts go, i dont wanna sound too harsh but look at the end of your relationship in a positive way, use this time to get your head down and work your arse off, you will soon have them paid off and it will take your mind off things

hope i have helped you in anyway bud, ive only met you the once but we have spoke online plenty of times and i think your a smashing fella and anytime you need anything just give us a shout and i'll see what i can do

hope it all works out for you
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:40 am

oh and i have to solidly agree about the paint, although i wouldnt change the colour of the red one because it looks amazing, i too am liking the flat colour
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:26 am

Thanks for all the replies folks. Some sensible words there. I'm in no rush to sell the car or to do her up either, so as suggested, i'm gonna keep working hard and if by the end of my contract here (July) i've managed to pay off my debts then i will redo her, but if i need money urgently, at least i know i can sell her and have some emergency Ԛ£dollar winkeye :D

THNAKS ONCE AGAIN TO YOU ALL :wink:
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Post Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:42 am

glad to be of service man, anytime, i know you'd be there with a helping hand if needed
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