alpina123 NEGATIVE [AVOID]

[alpina123]

The diff was fine
Why bother selling parts on here when you have to put up with this shit
I will stand my ground as I have done nothing wrong
Thanks

[e30topless]

Look I'm sorry but I sold a good diff that had no problems whatsoever ever with it it had done 50k miles,

it's done 10 miles since so it should be in almost the same condition they can probably hit 100k without issues,

I won't refund because it just means I'll have a no good diff

so you don't want to lose money from your wrong diagnosis/description of the original condition ?

it's obvious Mick hasn't used the diff his car stays parked during winter months and only hits the road for 6 months of the year as do most.. I know for a fact he isn't out to rob you or pull a fast one, what would be the point ?

ok so maybe he's trying to get a free diff and wants to go to the trouble of finding one, paying for it, and messing around with shipping and then laying on his back getting spanner rash from fitting it.. that is a fun weekend !!

He just wants to drive his car without issues... warranty or not you need to stand on.. as part of this warranty you supplied did you send out any paperwork ? can you guarantee the car it was removed from had 50k ?

He has a reputation on the zone to uphold as a trader and I'm certain if the boot was on the other foot he would certainly help out

like I said earlier there has to be middle ground ? your not doing your bit here !!

[alpina123]

Yes the diff came with a receipt and yes I have the speedo out of the car and yes I have photos of it to prove it was in a perfect drive able state and no,there WAS nothing wrong with it, I'm also not out to rob anyone as you say what would be the point

[Jim320i]

Sorry to say the opposite to everyone but just the transaction went through the zone, does mean that there is some special brotherhood respect with life time warranties because we like the same cars

If the shoe was on the other foot like suggested, I think most would be saying, '4 months...? No mate', anyone saying they would is simply not in that situation. This is why services such as PayPal have a 90 day policy so that people cant just open up cases months later, even if the item hasn't been used

thanks for the back up jim320i ..i know where we stand now.

I'm not going to be biased, I'm going from how I would deal with it. Standing positions have nothing to do with it

[spook]

[quote="Jim320i"]Sorry to say the opposite to everyone but just the transaction went through the zone, does mean that there is some special brotherhood respect with life time warranties because we like the same cars

I like most of my fellow zone comrades can see that this chap is slightly taking the Pi55, and who said anything about life time warranties?

This aint exactly a two bob part we are talking about is it.

Your attitude sucks.

[rich318i]

if you buy something thats second hand never mind what the mileage of the part is..

shouldnt of both partys in involved have checked it out as the seller says it was ok but the buyer didnt check it on arrival as in take the back plate off and have a visual look at the insides and not just throw it on and complain once fitted. After 4 months really?

Buyer is at fault it seems for not asking for pics for the insides before buying at that price anyone would from someone thats not a recommended trader or known on here with a good rep

What gets me is why does a trader want to buy a diff at that price as them type of diffs are not that sort after and other traders on here sell them for less

Something smells and its not old diff oil

[alpina123]

Spook

How am i taking the piss i I sell a known good part with three months warranty four months later he comes back,and it's now fucked? I don't care who he is it's three months which is more than enough. If this was the other way round I gurantee magpie wouldn't be getting treated like this.

[Jim320i]

@Magpie -

Aren't you older that a 15 year old girl dude? Whats with the PM?

[hennared323i]

Yes he does it's called a job. Selling parts

So you freely admit that you are a commercial trader. Which of our trader packages to you wish to subscribe to?

Answer this, please, alpina123.

Ben

Answer please alpina123

[Hoobs]

Faults on both sides but when talking about hundreds of pounds, just seems right and proper that an amicable solution is sought. No-one likes losing money and seems harsh that just one party should have to shoulder the loss?

Don't think either party was looking to shaft the other, but circumstances have meant there are some issues to address. Life's too short, so hopefully they can sort this between themselves.

[spook]

Spook

How am i taking the pee pee i I sell a known good part with three months warranty four months later he comes back,and it's now ******? I don't care who he is it's three months which is more than enough. If this was the other way round I gurantee magpie wouldn't be getting treated like this.

No offence mate, but i am quite sure Mick would see you right.

[jon-m42]

I have just had a quick skim read through this all.

I dont personally know any of the members here in dispute. But what I must add is that the seller though he has stated 3 months it still isent quiet clear.

It seems somewhat much confusion, anger and being upset has cause this to spiral on and on.

My honest advice to the buyer is that:

I do totally get where you are coming from when having the diff sitting around and then only to find it whines and makes noises after instilation. There is no way of inspecting it for noise up until you have installed it thats for sure. It seems you have been bite by the seller who has no real leg to stand on as far as humanity goes. It seems to be he clearly knows that you were under going some mechanical work as your buld thread states and shows. He knew this well and clear and it seems to me that he is still unwilling to atleast come ot some sort of fair and or respectable conclusion.


as for the seller I presume that you are holding on to the money even though you are fully aware of the situation and condition. Its clearly your word against his but it some what feels that the honesty lays in magpies favour as it shows by his build thread he has nothing what so ever to hide.

My advice to seller: Honestly be a gentleman and atleast out the goodness of humanity do not let £260 be the 'be all and end all' of this situation. Converstate with mick and come up with a reasonalble soloution between you both.

Save yourself the headache of things negative and do the positve thing whatever that may be between you to.

or take the money and allow all to see your true nature soembody im sure you even wont want to deal with.

id be stupid to think you will allow £260 to define you as a person. (Not much when you think about it eh)

[sunnyr83]

Whatever happens from now, the sellers rep is battered. He can part refund or give the full whack back, I can't see many people taking parts of him through here anymore.

I don't know either person involved but I see where Magpie is coming from but also see where the alpina123 is coming from.

A seller selling used parts with a warranty is rare on here, I know of only a couple. Would be interested to hear what they, as sellers would do in this situation without taking side.

Why would someone offer a 3 month warranty and sell of shit/dodgy parts knowing it'll come back at him. Makes no sense, and especially sell it to someone who knows his way around a car like Magpie.

All this talk about how Zoners should look after each other when trading is B******* IMO, unless you're part of a 'crew' of course.

Just keep it to PM and perhaps hope for a happy ending for both parties, all this back fourth back fourth drama is pointless.

[Hoobs]

All this talk about how Zoners should look after each other when trading is B******* IMO, unless you're part of a 'crew' of course.

Why? What's wrong with people looking out for one another?

I'd like to think I would help someone out if I knew they were a forum member, whether they've got a boat or not.

[SteSE]

Sorry magpie but I reckon this guys done ya.

I've sold bits on here before and purchased, think I even got a gearbox of you magpie. And would sort anyone out if they had a problem. But just cos you would its a big mistake to think you will be treated as you treat others. Be nice and chances are you'll get taken for a ride - despite what my mum used to tell me.

3 months is, to be fair, as good if not better than you'll get elsewhere when buying old car parts. But rules can be bent and in hindsight that's what alpina is perhaps thinking he should've done and kept it all quiet.

But sitting where he is sitting, I'd be thinking i'm screwed either way - even returning the £260 isn't going to save my user ID here, being honest. Keep the £260, new ebay account whatever and watch out for karma

no winners...

[Rav335uk]

All this talk about how Zoners should look after each other when trading is B******* IMO, unless you're part of a 'crew' of course.

Nail on head.
I've been through this with a "Zoner"

Why? What's wrong with people looking out for one another?

I'd like to think I would help someone out if I knew they were a forum member, whether they've got a boat or not.

It only happens if they are in the "Boat" Mark.

[craigieeb]

It only happens if they are in the "Boat"

I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere

[Rav335uk]

It only happens if they are in the "Boat"

I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere

LOL, no mate, there isn't..

[kangman]

Cahoots

[MurphyE30]

All this talk about how Zoners should look after each other when trading is B******* IMO, unless you're part of a 'crew' of course.

Why? What's wrong with people looking out for one another?

I'd like to think I would help someone out if I knew they were a forum member, whether they've got a boat or not.

Nothing wrong looking out for other members!

I was scammed on here a few years ago for the sum of £550 and it's due to "looking out for other members" being the reason I ended up getting my money back. Mainly down to Mick and Craig taking time out to take me down to Northampton to confront the seller and get the money refunded.TOP LADS And not forgetting all those that pulled together and donated to the fund to cover the trip. This is what being part of a forum/car club is all about imo.

I can guarantee that if it was the other way around Mick would be offering a refund on the part and doing what imo would be the right thing to do. I've had many dealings with Mick and never once a bad one.

Warranty of 3 months or not the part has been sold and clearly must of been whining and not as described before it was sent out to Mick. 10 miles and it's gone from being a perfect working diff to a whining sack of sh !t? That's some going.

[magpie]

in fairness to all involved I can see where the 3 month warranty kicks in, but at the same time if Mick hasn't used it at all (and I believe him ) the item hasn't withstood 3 months of use, that's poor

I'm fairly sure mick wouldn't make it up, he would rather be driving his car than underneath it with diff drama's

surely there's middle ground here somewhere?

No one can see where I'm coming from ether was nothing wrong with that diff if he knew he wasn't going to fit it for four months why buy it or ask what warranty it came with I would happily have held it for him, but like I've said I had no problems with it and it's been over 3 months

i never asked if it had a warranty so stop lying to make yourself look better.

[magpie]

thanks for the support Lads .

[magpie]

Nail on head.
I've been through this with a "Zoner"

you got half or your money back iirc Rav .

[Rav335uk]

Nail on head.
I've been through this with a "Zoner"

you got half or your money back iirc Rav .

True Mick, but no goods.

[Demlotcrew]

Sorry but, aplina123 your reputation has been damaged far more than £260, hope its been 'worth' it.........

[no1_jazz]

Just read this thread with regards to the diff.

Firstly id like to say it is always nice to knwo that we have people like yourself who distrubute and sell parts for us enthusiasts knowing that you may be one yourself. I would hate to think you value your person at £260 end off.... and if that is the case then it is for sure not nice to knwo we have such individuals around...

Regarding the diff issue it may have been a simple honest admin fault where the warantee document was not highlighted in Micks paperwork and if this is the case I feel that you should honor a small precentage back and or a full refund. Doing this will keep the peace and rensure us all that we can continue purchasing from you in confidence in the future.(Although I may think your reputation may well could have been stained already)

If you clearly knew Micks car at the time was a work in progress like most of ours on here then you know clearly that the diff is not being used but just stored safely untill instilation.

Its not the best of news knowing after instilation all things went tits up. My advice to you pal is to just keep clam kick back and relax have a good ole think about it and do the positive thing regardless.

Id like to think you both can come to a conclusion you both are happy with. Mick I can assure you is a great guy and id like to think you are too.

Jazz

[Demlotcrew]

Has this been resolved?

[MurphyE30]

Has this been resolved?

No

[magpie]

4 Months have passed by... I would also not give a refund

3 Months which he offered was good in my books and it should have been checked in that time space

this is pure dog shit given the circumstances and coming from a supposed mate [on here] and a fellow trader who never had a clue when you first started out selling, asked me what parts are worth ,guidance with couriers and even asking me if i wanted to partner up with you and we could both use the land you were renting at the time for storing scrap .

you deserved a pm,maybe you'd like to call me a girl to my face soon

as for any recompense to my lose of £250 there isn't any nor likely to be ....no way would i deal with anyone like this !

[Jesus325iTouring]

Warranty or no warranty, I do think if one is running a business or service, at sometime or other you're going to have hand out some goodwill, rightly or wrongly.
Doing the right thing at your own cost (even if inside you're cussing and seething) can often lead to a damn good bit of marketing.
Been there, done it and benefitted from it

[BrianBimmerHead]

Sorry but, aplina123 your reputation has been damaged far more than £260, hope its been 'worth' it.........

^ exactly I know for one I'd never buy a washer of you!

[gooseygander110]

Sorry but, aplina123 your reputation has been damaged far more than £260, hope its been 'worth' it.........

^ exactly I know for one I'd never buy a washer of you!

Nor me !!

[Duke137]

Ouch!