BMW 333i Alpina E30
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- quick_silver
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Hi all ive been a member on the forum for a while but been away for a bit. Im south african born but live in the UK. A mate of mine wants to sell his BMW 333i and from the history there was only 204 made and it was our so called M3 e30 of the time.
I was thinking to import it to the UK as its really mint and no rot at all. My main question would be what is it worth over here in the UK??
I was thinking to import it to the UK as its really mint and no rot at all. My main question would be what is it worth over here in the UK??
No idea, but I'd buy it! seriously...message me if you do.
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It's not crazy fast, Alpina B6 3.5 would kick its arse. Special model though, with the Alpina influence in the brakes and dash gauges. E30topless on here has one he's restoring and that by itself means they are worth strong money.
1990 325i Cab auto in Alpine White II
1988 Alpina C2.5 moredoor in Black, 71k
1990 325ix, moredoor auto in Laser Blue. 51k
1984 Hartge H35 in Black
2004 996 C4S in Silver 43k manual
2006 Audi S6 V10 in Black 58k
1988 Alpina C2.5 moredoor in Black, 71k
1990 325ix, moredoor auto in Laser Blue. 51k
1984 Hartge H35 in Black
2004 996 C4S in Silver 43k manual
2006 Audi S6 V10 in Black 58k
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Yeh they not very fast but 200bhp ish, im more interested in it because of its rareness. I want to buy it as its an investment. I would not use it everyday.
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That's what Dave the diff migger believesDanThe wrote:I hear you can buy these for £500

If the car is together and in good order then the U.K. resale value could be very good,
A white 333i sold last year at Coys auction in London for 29k, what is the build number /colour of the one your thinking of importing ?
Yup buy it, keep it, enjoy it 
Get it bought!!!

Get it bought!!!
A couple of pics of the 333i in a mag i have , and a couple from another thread.
The car on the left in the 2nd picture is topless"s one that he has under restoration i believe .
The car on the left in the 2nd picture is topless"s one that he has under restoration i believe .
89 more door 6 pot
You should import morequick_silver wrote: I was thinking to import it to the UK as its really mint and no rot at all. My main question would be what is it worth over here in the UK??


I'm sure there is plenty of demand for them. Would love the import one myself but South Africa isn't what I consider safe

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Eh?87mtech27 wrote:You should import morequick_silver wrote: I was thinking to import it to the UK as its really mint and no rot at all. My main question would be what is it worth over here in the UK??I would like one myself
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I'm sure there is plenty of demand for them. Would love the import one myself but South Africa isn't what I consider safe
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To be fair, it's not. Old man has just bought a holiday home and part of the package included armed guards and an optional barbed security fence, niiiiice.hennared323i wrote:Eh?87mtech27 wrote:You should import morequick_silver wrote: I was thinking to import it to the UK as its really mint and no rot at all. My main question would be what is it worth over here in the UK??I would like one myself
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I'm sure there is plenty of demand for them. Would love the import one myself but South Africa isn't what I consider safe
It isn't!!! My Uncle & family have lived in Jo'berg for the past 35 years. I wouldn't!!!ross_jsy wrote:To be fair, it's not. Old man has just bought a holiday home and part of the package included armed guards and an optional barbed security fence, niiiiice.hennared323i wrote:Eh?87mtech27 wrote: You should import moreI would like one myself
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I'm sure there is plenty of demand for them. Would love the import one myself but South Africa isn't what I consider safe

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+1. There speaks someone who has been to both places, I as have on a few occasions.nickso wrote:Jo'burg is a shithole. Only place to live in SA is Cape Town.
I have three male cousins in Joburg, two are married and both father-in-laws were shot dead, one a car jacking, the other a cashpoint mugging, both in the same year. Living in fear is an everyday position for white folks in Joburg, they don't see it as strange, just how their lives are. The gated communities don't protect you when you are not within them.
1990 325i Cab auto in Alpine White II
1988 Alpina C2.5 moredoor in Black, 71k
1990 325ix, moredoor auto in Laser Blue. 51k
1984 Hartge H35 in Black
2004 996 C4S in Silver 43k manual
2006 Audi S6 V10 in Black 58k
1988 Alpina C2.5 moredoor in Black, 71k
1990 325ix, moredoor auto in Laser Blue. 51k
1984 Hartge H35 in Black
2004 996 C4S in Silver 43k manual
2006 Audi S6 V10 in Black 58k
Has anyone ever looked into whether you can still get the the aluminium panels from BMW?
ZA 333i is the greatest oem E30 EVER made as non M/// car
Sveinbjörn Hrafnsson
E30 CABRIO M70B50 V12 5lug
ALPINA B10 BITURBO 346@507
550 V12 JML Motorsport
http://alpina.123.is/pictures/
E30 CABRIO M70B50 V12 5lug
ALPINA B10 BITURBO 346@507
550 V12 JML Motorsport
http://alpina.123.is/pictures/
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I see a 333i parked at the Honda garage i think, On William Nicol
Would be good in the UK, but keep it off the road in the winter, it will rust fast, as is seen in all South African imported E30s in the uk.
Would be good in the UK, but keep it off the road in the winter, it will rust fast, as is seen in all South African imported E30s in the uk.
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As a UK Guy now living in Joberg i cant belive the prices of cars over here. So expensive.SAP1 wrote:Bargain!
http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars/randfon ... 0008468209
That E30 is nearly £6,000 Uk Money and like you say it will sell at that price here no bother.
Regarding all the Crime and crap, In 7 Month ive seen nothing yet. Just be wary. I love Joberg, Such a buzz and people are way more friendly that cape town.
People need to stop reading shit in the Media, Things do happen but your chances of it happening are still low. a Mate of mine said when he lived in London his car got broken into a few times and never had any issues here..... If you resist if something does happen they will shoot you, give them what they want and 99% of the time they wont touch you
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Yeh Joburg can be rough just as Liverpool, you must just know your way around the place. I do miss the place but after 10yrs in the UK im pretty happy im here. As for the 333i it looks like i will be getting it and will add pics when it arrives in the UK. It will take some time tho but i will be in Joburg December looking for 1 more E30. Id like the 325is (Shadowline) evo2 and i will sell it in the UK. 333i i will keep in storage. Just dead excited and cant wait. 

'Yeh Joburg can be rough just as Liverpool' Hahaha are you thick or what? I've heard some sweeping statements before but that's a good one.
Johannesburg has a population of 3.8 million and sees 50 homicides per day! Liverpool has a population of 450k and sees a few murders per year.!
I'm born and raised in Liverpool, not once have I been a victim of violent crime, had my car stolen or mugged. We were broken into once when we were kids and stole our VCR player. Pretty low considering.
There are far more crime ridden places to live in the UK, Birmingham, Nottingham, London.
Johannesburg - Liverpool are nothing alike.
Johannesburg has a population of 3.8 million and sees 50 homicides per day! Liverpool has a population of 450k and sees a few murders per year.!
I'm born and raised in Liverpool, not once have I been a victim of violent crime, had my car stolen or mugged. We were broken into once when we were kids and stole our VCR player. Pretty low considering.
There are far more crime ridden places to live in the UK, Birmingham, Nottingham, London.
Johannesburg - Liverpool are nothing alike.
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SA BMW's do not hold up well against RUST so get it treated when you import your 333i and 325is........Jo Burg is a dangerous city, never liked it felt like a prisoner, Cape Town so relaxed and easy going.....I here SA is the new safe haven for globe trotting billionaires lol.....
good exchange rate for us brits.....
my mate is selling a 5 year old MK 1 Golf for 90000, Rand..lovely metalic green with less than 20,000 km on the milage.....
good exchange rate for us brits.....
my mate is selling a 5 year old MK 1 Golf for 90000, Rand..lovely metalic green with less than 20,000 km on the milage.....
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To be honest im from Joburg and Liverpool aint far off that place. Dodgy as hell. 

From Wikipedia:
BMW South Africa's Motorsport division created the 333i in 1986 by fitting the 3210 cc M30 "big six" ("M30B32" of the 733i E23/ 533i E12/ 533i E28/ 633CSi E24) engine to a 2-door E30.[13] The resulting 333i was a major success in saloon car racing in that country and is now a collectors' item. These cars, built with help from Alpina in Buchloe, Bavaria, Germany, featured some interesting compromises like forcing the buyer to choose between air conditioning (vital in South Africa) or power steering (because of lack of space due to the large M30 engine). They were only built in small numbers in 1986. BMW South Africa provided the following specifications for the 333i: Powerplant - M30B32 6 Cylinder 3210 cc [14] 145 kW (197 PS; 194 hp) at 5500 rpm. 285 N·m (210 lb·ft) torque at 4300 rpm. The cars were fitted with a 5-speed manual gearbox and limited slip differential. Braking was enhanced by 296 mm (11.7 in) Alpina dual ventilated grooved front disc brakes. ABS was optional. The cars were fitted with 16x7J Alpina wheels and Pirelli P7 (195/50/VR16) tyres.[15] BMW provided performance figures were impressive, with a top speed of 228 km/h (142 mph). 0”“100 km/h in 7.4 seconds, and a standing kilometer in 27.7 seconds at sea level. Actual South African Car Magazine road test figures were a top speed of 231 km/h, 0”“100 km/h in 7.23 seconds and a standing kilometre in 28.08 seconds. The test was carried out with a driver, passenger and a full tank of fuel. Only 204 of these cars were produced.[16]
Later when it became clear that South Africa would not be getting the M3, the 325iS was created. Initially this was merely a 325i 2-door fitted with a bodykit and a close-ratio gearbox (improving acceleration at the expense of top speed and economy), but more changes were made to keep the car competitive in South African saloon car racing. Nevertheless, these cars were always sold to the public. This resulted in the 325iS of late 1990. By now several body panels were made of aluminum and the M20 engine grew to 2.7 L and now produced 145 kW (194 hp) and a 0-62 mph in a mere 6.9 seconds as claimed by BMW South Africa. Due to increased competition in the production car race series it was competing in, another version was released in late 1991 called the 325iS Evo. The main revisions were a front aerofoil to smooth underbody airflow, shorter stiffer springs, thicker rear anti-roll bar and changes to the throttle body, exhaust manifold and inlet valves. It produced 155 kW (211 PS; 208 hp) and BMW South Africa claimed a top speed of 235 km/h (146 mph) with a 0”“100 km/h in 6.9 seconds. It did win the 1993 Group N race series under Robbie Smith and set various track records in the process.
BMW South Africa's Motorsport division created the 333i in 1986 by fitting the 3210 cc M30 "big six" ("M30B32" of the 733i E23/ 533i E12/ 533i E28/ 633CSi E24) engine to a 2-door E30.[13] The resulting 333i was a major success in saloon car racing in that country and is now a collectors' item. These cars, built with help from Alpina in Buchloe, Bavaria, Germany, featured some interesting compromises like forcing the buyer to choose between air conditioning (vital in South Africa) or power steering (because of lack of space due to the large M30 engine). They were only built in small numbers in 1986. BMW South Africa provided the following specifications for the 333i: Powerplant - M30B32 6 Cylinder 3210 cc [14] 145 kW (197 PS; 194 hp) at 5500 rpm. 285 N·m (210 lb·ft) torque at 4300 rpm. The cars were fitted with a 5-speed manual gearbox and limited slip differential. Braking was enhanced by 296 mm (11.7 in) Alpina dual ventilated grooved front disc brakes. ABS was optional. The cars were fitted with 16x7J Alpina wheels and Pirelli P7 (195/50/VR16) tyres.[15] BMW provided performance figures were impressive, with a top speed of 228 km/h (142 mph). 0”“100 km/h in 7.4 seconds, and a standing kilometer in 27.7 seconds at sea level. Actual South African Car Magazine road test figures were a top speed of 231 km/h, 0”“100 km/h in 7.23 seconds and a standing kilometre in 28.08 seconds. The test was carried out with a driver, passenger and a full tank of fuel. Only 204 of these cars were produced.[16]
Later when it became clear that South Africa would not be getting the M3, the 325iS was created. Initially this was merely a 325i 2-door fitted with a bodykit and a close-ratio gearbox (improving acceleration at the expense of top speed and economy), but more changes were made to keep the car competitive in South African saloon car racing. Nevertheless, these cars were always sold to the public. This resulted in the 325iS of late 1990. By now several body panels were made of aluminum and the M20 engine grew to 2.7 L and now produced 145 kW (194 hp) and a 0-62 mph in a mere 6.9 seconds as claimed by BMW South Africa. Due to increased competition in the production car race series it was competing in, another version was released in late 1991 called the 325iS Evo. The main revisions were a front aerofoil to smooth underbody airflow, shorter stiffer springs, thicker rear anti-roll bar and changes to the throttle body, exhaust manifold and inlet valves. It produced 155 kW (211 PS; 208 hp) and BMW South Africa claimed a top speed of 235 km/h (146 mph) with a 0”“100 km/h in 6.9 seconds. It did win the 1993 Group N race series under Robbie Smith and set various track records in the process.