My new 316!
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Junglistjed
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Got the weber carb fitted and was hit with a £200 bill when i was expected £50 ... the carb that was sold to me needed parts manufactured and the worst bit is the original filter doesn't fit onto it meaning i need to buy a new one.. sigh
atleast it runs better
atleast it runs better
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Speedtouch
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Pics or it didn't happen! 
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Haha its a bit dark right now fella, the carb is also sitting at home without a filter! really not sure why it didn't come complete and why the filter doesn't fit but oh well
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Also, where do people usually put their chokes?
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the original filter makes it too high, will a k&n be ok?
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Would imagine the thinner pancake KnN would be worth a look, not sure what Weber you have though as the one I had moons ago on my m10 ran a standard filter. Maybe you have a bigger Weber?, 
Can't help on the choke sorry
Can't help on the choke sorry
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Im really not sure either mate as i was told it was a standard fit and the filter would fit it no problem :/ did you now have a choke cable with your weber?
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Yea it was manual choke but that's about all I can remember, had the car in the late 90's so recollections are from three crap pics I have of the car or my very tired brain! Sorry bud.
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No problem mate, lets hope i can solve they problem ay!
Hey glad you got the carb.
The choke cable can be fitted near the left side of the steering (as seen in a reference picture I had saved from someone on the forum):

This is the K&N that I bought off Amazon because my 316 didn't come with the Round filter box

The choke cable can be fitted near the left side of the steering (as seen in a reference picture I had saved from someone on the forum):

This is the K&N that I bought off Amazon because my 316 didn't come with the Round filter box

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1986 E30 M10 316 Manual Schwarz Chromie
1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
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1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
1991 W201 190e Automatic Schwarz - Sold
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1993 E36 M40 316i Manual Brillantrot (RIP: rotting in peace)
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Have you got the exact model mate? the lad told me he could facricate the original filter so it could fit but it would cost me.. so buying a k&n is the way forward i think!
thanks for the advice mate.
thanks for the advice mate.
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Junglistjed
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If so many have fitted the stock air box on the carb, get the carb fitting checked, might still work out cheaper.
Some ON SALE options on Amazon for your K&N in case you still want to buy it.
Weber 32/34 DMTL carb assembly for E30 M10 316.
Some ON SALE options on Amazon for your K&N in case you still want to buy it.
Weber 32/34 DMTL carb assembly for E30 M10 316.
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1986 E30 M10 316 Manual Schwarz Chromie
1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
1991 W201 190e Automatic Schwarz - Sold
1991 W201 190e Automatic Silver AMG Tribute - Sold
1993 E36 M40 316i Manual Brillantrot (RIP: rotting in peace)
Join other Carb Fanatics: E30 316 Carb - The Faithfuls https://www.facebook.com/groups/444263742439145/
1986 E30 M10 316 Manual Schwarz Chromie
1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
1991 W201 190e Automatic Schwarz - Sold
1991 W201 190e Automatic Silver AMG Tribute - Sold
1993 E36 M40 316i Manual Brillantrot (RIP: rotting in peace)
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316 doesn't have many horses in the first place, and certainly can't afford to lose a few to aftermarket K&N tat. The original filter fits with an adaptor ring.
Brian, I found a guy selling a Carb Cover Box for about Pounds 20 on eBay, but shipping is a killer, as it's heavy + over sized, about 40-50 Pounds more according to the seller so he decided it's not worth sending it.
I have the rubber hose, and a new filter, hope to get the box eventually, till then I will have to make peace with the K&N
I have the rubber hose, and a new filter, hope to get the box eventually, till then I will have to make peace with the K&N
Maneesh
1986 E30 M10 316 Manual Schwarz Chromie
1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
1991 W201 190e Automatic Schwarz - Sold
1991 W201 190e Automatic Silver AMG Tribute - Sold
1993 E36 M40 316i Manual Brillantrot (RIP: rotting in peace)
Join other Carb Fanatics: E30 316 Carb - The Faithfuls https://www.facebook.com/groups/444263742439145/
1986 E30 M10 316 Manual Schwarz Chromie
1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
1991 W201 190e Automatic Schwarz - Sold
1991 W201 190e Automatic Silver AMG Tribute - Sold
1993 E36 M40 316i Manual Brillantrot (RIP: rotting in peace)
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I have found a thin base gasket which will make around a 5mm different from the current spacer block, do i need an adapter so the original filter can be put onto the carb?
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Speedtouch
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According to Brian, yes. However, you may find it fits OK as is - try it and see!
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Been told that the adapter will cost me a whopping £54.33, maybe a k&n would be a better option.
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A few rust 'spots' have started to appear on the top of the front chrome bumper, can these be removed with wire wool/chrome polish?
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Don't use wire wool - it will scratch the chome. Best to use chrome polish, or if it's bad, try rubbing damp tin foil on it. 
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i attempted to fit the choke cable like the one on the picture but the plastic is way to thick so no idea how that lad did it, any other ideas?
i attempted to fit the choke cable like the one on the picture but the plastic is way to thick so no idea how that lad did it, any other ideas?
Pictures of your attempt please, we can't figure what the problem is.
The plastic cover plate under the console can be drilled to accommodate the cable.
The plastic cover plate under the console can be drilled to accommodate the cable.
Maneesh
1986 E30 M10 316 Manual Schwarz Chromie
1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
1991 W201 190e Automatic Schwarz - Sold
1991 W201 190e Automatic Silver AMG Tribute - Sold
1993 E36 M40 316i Manual Brillantrot (RIP: rotting in peace)
Join other Carb Fanatics: E30 316 Carb - The Faithfuls https://www.facebook.com/groups/444263742439145/
1986 E30 M10 316 Manual Schwarz Chromie
1982 E28 M20 520i Henna Rot - Project
1988 E32 M70 750iL Schwarz - MASSIVE Project
1991 W201 190e Automatic Schwarz - Sold
1991 W201 190e Automatic Silver AMG Tribute - Sold
1993 E36 M40 316i Manual Brillantrot (RIP: rotting in peace)
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Junglistjed
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I Haven't attempted it yet but the plastic is very thick so im not sure if the cable will go through it!
Any tips on what i can do to fix my electrical problem? then right side light son my car including the dash lights won't come on?
Any tips on what i can do to fix my electrical problem? then right side light son my car including the dash lights won't come on?
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How thick - have you removed the panel?
Check all the fuses first:
http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/index.php/Fuse_Box
Then take a look at the earths for the lights.
Check all the fuses first:
http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/index.php/Fuse_Box
Then take a look at the earths for the lights.
///M aurice
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Ill have a look tomorrow to see if it can be drilled into without messing with anything! and all fuses are fine :/ what could be wrong with the earths? cheers mate
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Check all the terminations of the brown leads against the bodywork - any obviously corroded ones should be cleaned with fine sandpaper.
Also check the bulbs, and replace any with broken filaments; they are easily tested by using a length of wire and hooking them across the car battery.
Also check the bulbs, and replace any with broken filaments; they are easily tested by using a length of wire and hooking them across the car battery.
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I had a little look and the plastic plate where that choke cable is attached can be removed, i did this and the majority of the plastic is reinforced with that thick foam, the only gap to drill a hole is the already existing one that the plate bolts on? is this the best place to put the cable?
Also - do i have to put the cable through the hole inside out? as the choke cable is already inside the cabin so i may need to remove it and re attach..
Also - do i have to put the cable through the hole inside out? as the choke cable is already inside the cabin so i may need to remove it and re attach..
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What's to stop you driling through the thick foam, or partially removing a small section of it so that you can fit the choke cable in the usual place?
The normal practice is to fit the choke knob first, then feed the cable through the bulkhead and attach it to the carb.
The normal practice is to fit the choke knob first, then feed the cable through the bulkhead and attach it to the carb.
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Good point mate, is the cable easy to remove and attach? the mechanic obviously did it when he fitted the carb but ill but the one removing and re-attaching the cable.
Also have a pretty annoying problem, the car is a pain to start one i have stopped it to fill it up for petrol etc. it will keep ticking until i turn the key back towards me.. I also left the car for 3 hours the other night, returned to it at 9 and it was again a pain in the ass to start.. was this just due to the cold?
Also have a pretty annoying problem, the car is a pain to start one i have stopped it to fill it up for petrol etc. it will keep ticking until i turn the key back towards me.. I also left the car for 3 hours the other night, returned to it at 9 and it was again a pain in the ass to start.. was this just due to the cold?
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Yes, the cable should be a simple case of unscrewing the fixing screw/bolt at the carb choke lever and pulling out the inner cable, and releasing any clamp that may be on the outer cable sheath - or you may just need to pull it through from the abutment plate.
It appears to be the uppermost cable, in your photos above.
Take a note of how it is attached BEFORE you go pulling it apart!
Difficult starting may be down to cold weather - perhaps you're not applying enough choke? What is actually making the 'ticking' noise?
It appears to be the uppermost cable, in your photos above.
Take a note of how it is attached BEFORE you go pulling it apart!
Difficult starting may be down to cold weather - perhaps you're not applying enough choke? What is actually making the 'ticking' noise?
///M aurice
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The choke is all the way out mate, like its ticking over but won't start and i don't want to keep it ticking as i don't want to damage anything
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Perhaps try experimenting with less choke - perhaps you're flooding it...
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Thats exactly what i have avoided.. surely after stopped for 5 minutes the engine should start up straight away without any difference in choke etc as the engine temperature wouldn't of changed too much?
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Sure, if the engine is warmed up with a few miles of use, then switching off for 5 minutes shouldn't require any use of choke.
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Thats what i mean, its a 10-15 minute drive to the petrol station, so the car should start up straight away but it doesn't, maybe the carb needs cleaning?




