wet drivers footwell, help please

General E30 related discussions -
Please put technical questions in E30 Tech Help forum below

Moderator: martauto

Post Reply
User avatar
benurminge
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:00 pm
Location: southampton

Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:42 pm

hi guys, 318i touring, I have had some slightly moist carpet for a while now in this beautiful English weather, thought il investigate today...

turns out under my carpet its wetter then a otters pocket.
about a 1cm deep after squeezing the carpet abit

Image

good news though, my floor plan is a minter :) which crosses out the rusty floor plan conclusion...

I couldn't investigate any more cause I couldn't get past this point...

Image

how to I pull the carpet back over this point??

also any further help of where else to look back and investigate?! I have looked on the section on the e30 zone.

it definitely isn't coolant... certainly water!

is it easier to take out the passenger seat aswell and take the carpet fully out now? obviously I will have to do that anyway to take it inside to dry! which I can imagen will take an age!

thanks guys
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:36 pm

You need to remove the accelerator pedal from its mount to remove the carpet. Door sill plastic trims are removed by sliding forwards clear of the rearmost clip, then lifting the trim clear of this clip and sliding the trim backwards and off.
Seats out, centre consoles out, small cut above the steering shaft, and then you can remove the carpet. Tightest point is under the heater box, and some cut around the carpet here to make it easier to refit. Beware of wires under the carpet if you cut!
It dries surprisingly quickly if you can hang it up by one rear corner. The water will quickly drain down to the opposite corner, where it can be squeezed out.
Replace the pedal and drive the car in the wet with the carpet out. Sprinkling talcum powder around will help show where the water is coming in.
pac1982
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5330
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: isle of wight

Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:41 pm

benurminge wrote:
Image
Is that your driveway I can see through the drain hole? if so I'm sure you should have a bung in that so may explain the moist carpet
Image

1991 BMW E30 318i Neon Design Convertible (Sold)
1990 BMW E30 325i Touring (Sold)
1990 BMW E30 318IS (Sold)
1990 BMW E30 316i (RIP)
User avatar
benurminge
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 89
Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:00 pm
Location: southampton

Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:54 pm

no that is a red coloured bung for some reason pac1982
okay that sounds a great plan with the talcum power, but am I being dumb by saying how can I re-attach my pedal if the pedal itself is attatched to the carpet? or have I got that wrong by mis understanding you?

how do you remove the pedal from its mount?

cheers guys
User avatar
scallyally
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 228
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 11:00 pm
Location: east london

Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:24 pm

I think that any attempt to prise the pedal off it's mounting socket will break it at it's hinge.

I cut my carpet from the socket to the edge. (The cut is covered by the overmat).

Subsequent carpet removal is easy.
User avatar
bumpygt
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 236
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: poole dorset

Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:50 pm

Or take the circlip off the top part of the foot pedal and slot it through the carpet when removing it backwards and out
Image
JF008
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 632
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:00 pm
Location: Fort McMurray

Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:32 pm

Exactly, remove the clip at the top of the accelerator, I've done the carpet job twice now and only did one tiny invisible cut above the steering shaft. I had water in the driver's foot well caused by a crappy DIY amp power cable entering the cabin but most of it was coming from a bad seal at the bottom of the plastic sheet that is behind the door card.
User avatar
adamh325
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:00 pm

Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:13 pm

can a sunroof seal cause the same problem ??
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:25 pm

The base of the accelerator pedal passes through a slot in the carpet, and into a rectangular steel box, about 10mm high or so, welded to the floor.
The pic. of the pedal in this link is reasonably true to life: http://2009.bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/ ... cable_rhd/
The rectangular box has three small rectangular holes in it, into which engage the three plastic latches that you can just make out in the pic. A small screwdriver inserted into one of the end slots, forcing under the carpet shroud, can be used to push in the plastic latch and lever up that end of the pedal. /the other two latches usually disengage themselves once one end is levered up, but a second screwdriver can be used if they resist too strongly.
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:28 pm

adamh325 wrote:can a sunroof seal cause the same problem ??
No, the sunroof seals aren't designed to be totally waterproof - their purpose is to limit the amount of water coming in and to deal with wind noise. Water that gets past them is collected by fixed and sliding gutters, and drained to the underside of the car by four drain tubes.
Post Reply