V8 swap that doesn`t need relocating brake booster?

[Rob_farmer]

Guys,

Is there such engine to swap in, but brake booster must stay where it is? If that changes anything - its left hand drive, non UK car.

Why? Because our law prohibits brake booster relocation.

[jmc330i]

The left bank of cylinders will be in the way of the brake servo/booster, I don't think you'll find any V8 that will fit without relocating the servo.

[leeparkes]

You probably could if you located the engine further forward but then it would upset the balance of the car.
Then the rad would be an issue.

[Rob_farmer]

Shame. Thanks guys.

[Driftben]

Are you able to go for a setup that doesn't use a booster?
or does the law state that you have to have one fitted?

[Rob_farmer]

Law says - you are not allowed to modify or remove factory fitted brake system components - no relocating/swapping boosters, no changing of brake calipers(big brake kits) etc.

How it works in our country - if you do any engine swaps, you have to go for inspection and get certified with DVLA kind of agency. Inspectors are pretty smart there and they will see booster is gone won`t give approval. Of course I can go "well it never had traditional booster bla bla bla", but they will then dig up papers. Also, sooo many of the E30`s are swapped and inspectors know them inside out by now. If you don`t get approval, you can`t pass MOT and then you can`t insure your car.

[jmc330i]

no changing of brake calipers(big brake kits) etc.

So you can fit a bigger engine to make the car faster, but must leave the brakes standard?

[Driftben]

agh i see, sounds quite strict on that sort of thing. Hopefully this hole of a country doesn't take the same route.

would you be able to just shift it over slightly so it looks like its still there but not used as such

[jmc330i]

would you be able to just shift it over slightly so it looks like its still there but not used as such

Still wouldn't give much room for a V8??
If the servo must remain standard and in standard location, that would make even an M50/52 swap difficult.

[Rob_farmer]

James, well spotted! You are dead right. We can fit ANY engine, as long as brake booster stays intact. Also you are not allowed to mod/cut into firewall, cut/weld wishbone or any other structural components of the car. If you swap engine/suspension parts, you MUST use only BMW factory made components - for example engine mounts, they can come off E36 or E32 etc, they must have BMW logo or BMW parts number on them. They won`t sign off custom made engine mounts. But some inspectors are BMW fans and will close their eyes on good quality, well made brackets.

[Rob_farmer]

would you be able to just shift it over slightly so it looks like its still there but not used as such

How much we talking about?

[Driftben]

well looking at mine even though iv moved it back to the max, i recon you could fit a MK1 golf booster in there maybe with some shoe horning?
doesn't seem right on the ok for the engine conversions but not upgrading the brakes though?

[Driftben]

1 sec i dig you out a picture of mine

[Rob_farmer]

Any mods can be done and signed off, but only for track cars. They have special track car V5. You are allowed on public roads, but driving is allowed to/from track/garage. Being cought daily driving with such V5 will results in very serious trouble.

[Rob_farmer]

well looking at mine even though iv moved it back to the max, i recon you could fit a MK1 golf booster in there maybe with some shoe horning?
doesn't seem right on the ok for the engine conversions but not upgrading the brakes though?

Shifting booster just a bit or/and fitting a little bit different size one, might do the trick with "right" inspector

Tell me about it - there is no logic at all.

[Driftben]

[Driftben]

anything is possible with some know how

[Rob_farmer]

Hmm, I can`t see brake servo on your photos?

[Driftben]

because i don't have one me lad, iv gone for the mans setup

its shows the space you have though

[jmc330i]

I'm pretty sure you need custom mounts for a V8, so that would also be another hurdle if you must use factory parts... can't be many M30 conversions over there either.

Sounds like a bit of ball ache

[Rob_farmer]

I'm pretty sure you need custom mounts for a V8, so that would also be another hurdle if you must use factory parts... can't be many M30 conversions over there either.

Sounds like a bit of ball ache

I keep trying to find a single road legal signed off V8 in our country, zero so far. But I still hope, there must be a solution. Maybe with some help of right inspector.

[Rob_farmer]

because i don't have one me lad, iv gone for the mans setup

Damn, there is no space for servo

[kristov]

Maybe this will fit?

http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/index. ... h1-v8-busa

[broadie]

Can you rework the bulkhead?
Or lower the motor and fit a dry sump.

[Rob_farmer]

Can you rework the bulkhead?
Or lower the motor and fit a dry sump.

Firewall/bulkhead, tranny tunnel can`t be cut or modified.

[Rob_farmer]

Maybe this will fit?

http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/index. ... h1-v8-busa

I`m not son of oligarch

[S38B38]

I am doing a M70 swap,,

the M70 is 60° so the angle is more narrow vs M/S6x that is no problem using the hydro ((E32 V12 system))

[leeparkes]

I'm pretty sure you need custom mounts for a V8, so that would also be another hurdle if you must use factory parts... can't be many M30 conversions over there either.

Ive sent quite a few sets of M30 mounts over there.

What madness though! you can drastically up the power but has to be on standard brakes.

[Laith]

No v8 has been signed off by a dvla inspector? How am I supposed to insure an e30 with an m60??

Does anyone know anyone that's had a v8 converted then officially put onto the v5?

[Driftben]

You can insure a V8 powered e30 I think my quote was £230 fully comp.
you can also MOT it and I'm sure all you have to do is update the V5 (if you want to) by ringing the dreaded DVLA cock jockeys and asking them to update the licence. Then they will probably up your road tax because they can!
Might be wrong but that's how I portrayed it

[Laith]

Sweet. What insurance company was that out of interest?

[jmc330i]

I know people who have told the dvla about the change of cc, but realistically nobody bothers as it can cause more headache than its worth. The dvla will only be bothered if the tax class changes, which won't be a problem for an E30.

You don't need to update the V5 for MOT purposes. All that matters is that your insurance knows.