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Post Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:21 pm

Which ones come highly recommend?

Which ones to stay well clear of?

Been told to stay away from BW chip in hayes
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Post Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:07 pm

Is that bw chip tune in hounslow? I used them a few years back to sort my 1 series after rob from chipped uk fucked it up. Jason* knows his stuff and was very helpful. They were a chipped uk/viezu mapper but I think they have a revo franchise now.

*Jason at bw not to be confused with Jason at chipped uk.
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:31 am

smithysmith wrote:Is that bw chip tune in hounslow? I used them a few years back to sort my 1 series after rob from chipped uk ****** it up. Jason* knows his stuff and was very helpful. They were a chipped uk/viezu mapper but I think they have a revo franchise now.

*Jason at bw not to be confused with Jason at chipped uk.
I've used B&W several times, he has probably mapped more e36's 328i's than most and knows what they should make power wise and how they respond to certain mods.

Had my e46 330i on his rollers yesterday and I'll be going back for a remap next week.

I'd recommend him as would many others including a couple of guys I know with serious e39 M5's

i've heard horror stories about pretty much every "mapper" in the UK who gets involved with BMWs, the truth most just flash a map on and make a few adjustments here and there.
One so called specialist who gets a lot of publicity for their high end work has made a fair few cock ups. the the truth is every one will some where along the line do a job a customer is not hapy with or something goes wrong. no one is perfect and you can only go on recommendations

so, back on topic, yes id recommend B&W, id also recommend E maps, DMS, CA automotive have a good mapper on the books as do Birds Garage.

the last 3 come at a price, but the latter is arguably the best place in the UK to take your car for any sort of tuning work.
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:42 am

Contact 'Gunni',he re-mapped my 2.7 a while back and I was pleased with both the results and the cost.

At the time,Gunni was finishing his degree in motorsport engineering at Oxford and working at a place in Marlow,not sure where he is now!
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:57 am

gunni would have been on my list however there have been couple a incidents including one zone taking him to court and successfully claiming against him

some of the work was subbed out but non the less there were issues to say the least

but, he can map a car thats for sure
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:55 am

What happened to Ant and A-tech?
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:27 pm

Paul Sheppard at Circuit Motors did a good job on my iS.
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:41 pm

DMCL on here supplied me with a generic chip for the M40 318i that works well. IMHO if its for a stock engine its not worth the extra money for a custom map!
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:46 pm

tomislav wrote:What happened to Ant and A-tech?
ant packed up ages ago hes not tradeing anymore
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:07 pm

smithysmith wrote:Is that bw chip tune in hounslow? I used them a few years back to sort my 1 series after rob from chipped uk ****** it up. Jason* knows his stuff and was very helpful. They were a chipped uk/viezu mapper but I think they have a revo franchise now.

*Jason at bw not to be confused with Jason at chipped uk.
Was told the one in Hayes Jason

Ive had very good and very bad reviews (blown engines up) from people that i know that have used the place before.
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Post Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:24 pm

evolve have been good at mapping my 328i previously
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 am

rich318i wrote:
smithysmith wrote:Is that bw chip tune in hounslow? I used them a few years back to sort my 1 series after rob from chipped uk ****** it up. Jason* knows his stuff and was very helpful. They were a chipped uk/viezu mapper but I think they have a revo franchise now.

*Jason at bw not to be confused with Jason at chipped uk.
Was told the one in Hayes Jason

Ive had very good and very bad reviews (blown engines up) from people that i know that have used the place before.
Blown up engines, really ? Where how & when ?

I could possibly believe that some has wanted their car mapped for max power, lots of ignition advance and mapped on 99 octane fuel, they then run it on crap quality 95 octain, it pinks and does a piston, or they over rev it and it throws a rod

What people need to do is ask them selves how good is their engine and how is it presented to the mapper before they move away from stock. Who's responsibility is it, the mappers or the owners. Personally I say the owners. The mapper can only work with what they are given and do as requested

Never heard of such a story to do with jason @ B&W but I'll ask.

However i've heard stories of others pissing bout with vanos & cam advances on e46 M3's to gain more power. as such this moves the hot spot on the exhuast where the x pipe is to where the cats are and literally melting them.


The truth is no one is perfect but its only the negatives the get publicised
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:38 am

rich318i wrote:
smithysmith wrote:Is that bw chip tune in hounslow? I used them a few years back to sort my 1 series after rob from chipped uk ****** it up. Jason* knows his stuff and was very helpful. They were a chipped uk/viezu mapper but I think they have a revo franchise now.

*Jason at bw not to be confused with Jason at chipped uk.
Was told the one in Hayes Jason

Ive had very good and very bad reviews (blown engines up) from people that i know that have used the place before.
Yes it's the same company looks like they moved from hounslow to Hayes.

I would take any of my cars back there, from what I saw Jason was very knowledgable and he took the time to explain what he was doing and let me see what was going on instead of shutting me in a waiting area.
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:16 pm

Had a great chat with someone today and jason is the man seems really descent from what they were saying
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:29 pm

get it on the rollers dude :D
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:33 pm

magpie wrote:get it on the rollers dude :D
Will be soon...

Also got all 100% injectors sonic cleaned and WOW factor. Get yours done totally recommend it
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:38 pm

my set of six pinky's should be here tomorrow from skoda then straight off to injectortune .

how long do injectortune take ? deadline is friday the 13th sept my end lol
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:47 pm

My place fooked up put the wrong caps on and o-rings they had to order them in but if they had the parts in stock same day and did my other injector free as they messed up and I knew what I was on about.

Didn't use injector tune
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:50 pm

now your rocking get it on the rollers ,i'll see you at pod anyhoo in the left hand lane winkeye

lets lay the smack down mofo!
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:53 pm

M52 wars :D
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:57 pm

magpie wrote:now your rocking get it on the rollers ,i'll see you at pod anyhoo in the left hand lane winkeye

lets lay the smack down mofo!


Ready not into that but if i must lol

need a quick shift with mine still rev's drop too quick to keep the power band
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:58 pm

Back on topic now !!!
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:09 pm

my £85 ebay bbtb sticks like fook so the over run should be a positive down the strip along with my newly purchased eagle f1's for the rears i'd say i have a chance with stock cams .


i might even be close enough to sniff Dans fumes this time
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:14 pm

magpie wrote:my £85 ebay bbtb sticks like fook so the over run should be a positive down the strip along with my newly purchased eagle f1's for the rears i'd say i have a chance with stock cams .


i might even be close enough to sniff Dans fumes this time
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Sticks at what position ?

I have found out why they stick but before i tell you just want to know were your sticks at if you had the same prob as me
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:20 pm

from the first press and sticks on the way down making me sound like a c0ck when changing gear ,after pod and a rolling rd i'm putting the m50 tb back on .
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:35 pm

its the cable mate it needs adjusting
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:51 pm

probably needs re routing ,i'll have a look again i'm using an e34 cable .
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Post Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:58 pm

Using my 318i cable and its sweet for the m52 just need a new one myself but adjust the cable and it will work
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:06 am

cable is adjusted so it has a bit of slack when closed so it's not too tight .
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:29 am

like butter when engine is off ? Or sticks when off too?
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:04 am

just feels stiff when first opening of the butterfly.
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:09 pm

Just reading up on all info here:

I have been considering getting a BBTB for my little iS and then mabe a map. Allot have spoken sabout and advise to go the route of getting what is called 'A Live Roling Road Map' .. can anybody provide mroe information on this and its advantages?

Also is http://www.bwchiptune.co.uk/ any good ?
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:52 pm

A live map is where you go to a rolling road and they create a map specifically for your motor.

When you buy a chip or get a different map put into your ECU, it is generic, its been created for the derivative of the engine, but not for yours in particular.

Therefore a custom live mapping session for your car will provide much better results than a generic chip, providing its a good operator doing the mapping.

A generic chip has no way of knowing what manifold, throttle, compression ratio etc etc, if any of it has been changed.

A live map can take into account these changes, and alter fueling and ignition to suit.

The best bet with live mapping is to install all the hardwear first then map, as it will need to be updated each time the hardwear is changed to get the best from the car. To be honest unless you are changing the fundimentals of the engine with cams etc, I wouldn't bother. Get everything working as it should, and get the injectors cleaned, then a generic chip and a BBTB will give you a noticeable hike in power.
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:16 pm

Well you learn something new everyday,i thought a live map ment that they take your car out with a lap top and do it that way?!

I have seen this done,so what is they are doing when they take your car out on the road whilst using a laptop?,is it finding minor faults,e.g flat spots?
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Post Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:31 pm

macas wrote:Well you learn something new everyday,i thought a live map ment that they take your car out with a lap top and do it that way?!

I have seen this done,so what is they are doing when they take your car out on the road whilst using a laptop?,is it finding minor faults,e.g flat spots?
I don't pretend to know the complete ins and outs of this, not my forte, but...

The beauty of the rolling road is there are no road conditions. Plus you can hold a load load on the engine while settings are dialed in, giving the best power, for any given engine speed, throttle opening, load, etc

The rolling road is more accurate than the arse dyno too.