fucking genius ian
your a legend
il stop living in cuckoo land now!
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dan mate
why mate? the BE's the wrong diameter!tim i think s50 rods would be a better idea
you recall incorrectly, someone's been telling you porkies again. oh and m/s50 rods are different. in fact s50b30 and s50b32 rods are different.m20 rods are nearly twice as heavy and a lot bigger than m/s50 rods iirc
yesare you sure m20 ones oculd be used in the m42 lump?
lol, what does that mean mate?!they look tonk!
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oh yeah forgot the s42 ran upright! my favourite stat is that it was more powerful and lighter than the s14. don't have the specifics of that stat anymore though.
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i never laughed so hard!
b*stard pbmw, surprised at that.
yeah i was happy at that little find. you know there's some honda rods you can make work too?! one of my more impressive discoveries! was looking at a list of rod specs, and noticed that there were some honda ones that are spot on.
yeah i was happy at that little find. you know there's some honda rods you can make work too?! one of my more impressive discoveries! was looking at a list of rod specs, and noticed that there were some honda ones that are spot on.
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actually there's a lot of truth in the s50s being the best rods.
BMW introduced cracked connecting rods for the first time in 1993, the two sections of the connecting rod bearing not being cut open, but rather broken at a predetermined point in the machining process and thus ensuring a much more precise re-fit of the two fully machined sections in subsequent assembly
i dunno which rods this applies to, but the s50b32 definitely had cracked bearing caps.
BMW introduced cracked connecting rods for the first time in 1993, the two sections of the connecting rod bearing not being cut open, but rather broken at a predetermined point in the machining process and thus ensuring a much more precise re-fit of the two fully machined sections in subsequent assembly
i dunno which rods this applies to, but the s50b32 definitely had cracked bearing caps.
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haha apologies, i don't get any of 'em! years ago i used to get one of them, can't remember which though
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yeah chap called gizmo. a friend of his posts on here i think. his setup is vaguely similar to what i'm doing, a bit smaller capacity (2l) and higher CR (a bit much for our fuel and for a daily), mostly different parts to what i'm using though (well nearly completely different parts!). think his setup will be more extreme too when he's finished, i think his intention is throttle bodies, significantly modded head etc.
haven't heard anything about his in ages, he'd stopped replying on the post about his engine. pm'd him a little while back and no reply. dunno if he's done the rest of the build yet, or whether that will come later etc. he allegedly got about 165 bhp at the wheels, which i must admit sounded a bit optimistic to me as he still had standard cams etc, mind you its a later car with MAF and he has a unichip etc. and have no reason not to believe it!
but if i got anywhere near that with mine with the bigger capacity i'd be more than chuffed, that's for sure.
haven't heard anything about his in ages, he'd stopped replying on the post about his engine. pm'd him a little while back and no reply. dunno if he's done the rest of the build yet, or whether that will come later etc. he allegedly got about 165 bhp at the wheels, which i must admit sounded a bit optimistic to me as he still had standard cams etc, mind you its a later car with MAF and he has a unichip etc. and have no reason not to believe it!
but if i got anywhere near that with mine with the bigger capacity i'd be more than chuffed, that's for sure.
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its time gentlmen 
just brought my first 318is what colour is the navy blue one called?? it looks sweet as whatever it is.
am really pleased,,drives well,, awaiting funding me thinks
just brought my first 318is what colour is the navy blue one called?? it looks sweet as whatever it is. am really pleased,,drives well,, awaiting funding me thinks
redrobbie, you're comparing a flywheel figure to a figure at the wheels. also my guess is gizmo's car was probably mapped quite aggressively on good fuel and gave that figure at a high rpm.
lazur blau is lovely, quite an unusual colour in the 318is, i've only seen a few. you got the blue recaros and light headlining too? come on, get some pics on! btw you can click on the photo in my sig to see mine.
lazur blau is lovely, quite an unusual colour in the 318is, i've only seen a few. you got the blue recaros and light headlining too? come on, get some pics on! btw you can click on the photo in my sig to see mine.
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ok sorry been sorting out my mk2 golf getting ready to be sold... taking out ice etc... back to standard.... now got a few pics... hang on...
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actually pictures at the mo will not do it justice,, i took some ruff job ones. will take some nice ones tommorow and post up in photo gallery
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tim
how much extra power and torque do you think can be achieved through doing a 2.1 conversion compared to a 1.9?
the 1.9 seems a lot easier as its a straight swap for an m44 bottom end? were as your 2.1 is some messy expensive custom jobby that a lously student like me could never afford.
Was just thinking that i would love to rebuild an m42 in the summer with a new bottom end reworked head and TB/standalone, but obviously its about the money; so i thought saving by going the cheap bottom end route may be the best
or is the 2.1 route the only option?
how much extra power and torque do you think can be achieved through doing a 2.1 conversion compared to a 1.9?
the 1.9 seems a lot easier as its a straight swap for an m44 bottom end? were as your 2.1 is some messy expensive custom jobby that a lously student like me could never afford.
Was just thinking that i would love to rebuild an m42 in the summer with a new bottom end reworked head and TB/standalone, but obviously its about the money; so i thought saving by going the cheap bottom end route may be the best
or is the 2.1 route the only option?
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Engine bay looks nice Tim (and the rest of the motor!), where's your viscous fan though?
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Ah, i see! Amazing how much space those things take up!
cheers for the compliments guys!
yeah electric fan conversion. do it! def worth it imo. funny how big that cowling makes the engine look though int it!
james, you got the lsd yet?
dan, like i've said the m44 block seems like a decent, easy-ish conversion to me. you have to make your own mind up though mate.
the 2.1 conversion i'm doing is totally different, i'd expect the 2.1 should give much more torque and power. but like you say the 2.1 conversion is way more complicated.
only other easy conversion i guess you could do is a 2l stroker. i could help you with this, would take you some time to get parts together and cost prolly Ԛ£700 in parts and machining (that's not new btw! remfd bmw woudl cost mb Ԛ£1k) but then it would bolt right up and you'd be away! Could even build you a 2l bottom end for about a grand i expect.
i considered making up some 2l bolt-on stroker kits actually at one point.
i think what i'm trying to say is that increasing the capacity of the m42 isn't cheap mate, and the m44 is a bit of a gift really as its an easy, cheap upgrade.
as for being a student, i know that feeling.
dark_sounds, what mk2 did you have? dont tell nobody round here, but i'm a bit of a veedub fan.
yeah electric fan conversion. do it! def worth it imo. funny how big that cowling makes the engine look though int it!
james, you got the lsd yet?
dan, like i've said the m44 block seems like a decent, easy-ish conversion to me. you have to make your own mind up though mate.
the 2.1 conversion i'm doing is totally different, i'd expect the 2.1 should give much more torque and power. but like you say the 2.1 conversion is way more complicated.
only other easy conversion i guess you could do is a 2l stroker. i could help you with this, would take you some time to get parts together and cost prolly Ԛ£700 in parts and machining (that's not new btw! remfd bmw woudl cost mb Ԛ£1k) but then it would bolt right up and you'd be away! Could even build you a 2l bottom end for about a grand i expect.
i considered making up some 2l bolt-on stroker kits actually at one point.
i think what i'm trying to say is that increasing the capacity of the m42 isn't cheap mate, and the m44 is a bit of a gift really as its an easy, cheap upgrade.
as for being a student, i know that feeling.
dark_sounds, what mk2 did you have? dont tell nobody round here, but i'm a bit of a veedub fan.
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lol, why you building an m20? thought you had a 318is?
would put pics of my newly cleaned up block and other engine conversion bits and bobs but last post took too long to write and cant be arsed now.
would put pics of my newly cleaned up block and other engine conversion bits and bobs but last post took too long to write and cant be arsed now.
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tis a college project
was going to do an m42 lump out of the bmw, but the car i had died so had to use the bmw as my daily
an sourcing an m42 in a two week time limit seemed hard so i just did an m20 instead
was going to do an m42 lump out of the bmw, but the car i had died so had to use the bmw as my daily
an sourcing an m42 in a two week time limit seemed hard so i just did an m20 instead
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tim_s
ive got a 1.6 driver.. not much though insurenace for me a pain in the arse, hence now insurance renewal i can afford the IS
nothing wrong with loving a retro dub.
we all in the same kinda boat really.....
OLD SKOOL regardless of E30 or MK2 they are from the same time, similar styling, both german, both reliable, both great.
all good
ive got a 1.6 driver.. not much though insurenace for me a pain in the arse, hence now insurance renewal i can afford the IS
nothing wrong with loving a retro dub.
we all in the same kinda boat really.....
OLD SKOOL regardless of E30 or MK2 they are from the same time, similar styling, both german, both reliable, both great.
all good
too rightnothing wrong with loving a retro dub.
here's my old dub (bbs bodied mk1 gti with 2l engine):
had this as my toy, bm as daily.
proper old skool huh? crap pic, shame the body's not finished in that one, can't find any better right now though other than one at the volksfest last yr next to my mate's mk2 8v.
i rebuilt this car from scratch pretty much.
put in a 2l audi block, solid lifter flowed head with reprofiled valves, choice of cams, vernier, audi big bore throttle body etc, put out about 145bhp, but 8v so loads of torque, weighed 800kgs, to about 80mph it was the fastest thing in the world if you could get traction. was nuts. prolly quicker on the twisties than the bm too. had corrado seats, remote central locking and loads of other shit, big brakes (mk2 16v calipers + m/c/servo), uprated suspension, 15" BBS (alright reps from jonb for Ԛ£40) with 195/45/15 tyres. i did it all to it, was completely stock when i bought it.
i miss it sometimes, was spot on! sold it on ebay last summer, saw it on the bay again a whiole back, was tempted to buy it back. no idea who owns it at the mo.
and here's some of the bmw engine rebuild so far
before cleaning up, the deck was a mess, the outside covered in crap, the water channels were shocking, they were literally orange with rust. the water pump had been replaced at some point and the seals hadn't been properly renewed so shitty crystalised coolant stuff had spewed all over the front timing cover and front face of the block too. this photos after i'd acid bathed the water channels so they're looking better
after cleaning up and painting:
ready for re-boring now
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No, havent got an LSD yet Tim, gonna get a chip and BBTB first!
Its still on the (ever growing) list though!
Its still on the (ever growing) list though!
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whats the list??Jamesb318is wrote:No, havent got an LSD yet Tim, gonna get a chip and BBTB first!
Its still on the (ever growing) list though!
its a must have mate LSD it should be top really i cant explain the differences enough in the way the car drives
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sweet golf tim... that must have been fun, its a popular fast dub. i think i remember seeing it on the bay a while back actually.
rebuild looking good, will smarten up the engine bay too
rebuild looking good, will smarten up the engine bay too
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I know but i'll only be able to get a 3.91 ratio i should think (which isnt what i want - not that i dont trust you Tim! but i'm worried it might blunt what little performance the car has.)whats the list??
its a must have mate LSD it should be top really i cant explain the differences enough in the way the car drives
List - Not in order
-Chip
-BBTB
-Polish inlet manifold+paint rocker cover
-New wheels
-Fix wobbles/noises seats
-New steering knuckles + track ends
-Sort body problems (rust!)
-Fix exhaust manifold leak/new manifold
-New shocks/springs
etc.