After m50 conversion no electric windows???

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Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:52 am

Hi there all.

Jus done a m50 conversion to a e30 320i 1991 it's up and running but the electric windows don't work, they only wok when you open the doors fully and ideas to what needs doing
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Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:58 am

unloader relay feed from the starter is missing or broken I'd suggest.

Its there to kill the e/winds and blower motor etc when the starter is engaged

common fault !
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Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:05 pm

So you saying a relay needs replacing? If so where is it located thanks
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Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:37 pm

Relays are likely to be fine. Chances are you haven't wired the starter motor correctly.
Do the heater fan and door mirrors work? If so, check fuse 17.
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Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:41 am

How do I have to wire the starter then, the top of the starter has 2 thin wires and the bottom a thick one, fuse is ok and mirrors don't work
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Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:05 pm

What do you have connected to pin 15 of your engine loom plug?
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Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:37 pm

I will take a look 2morro dans done me the loom can't see there be a issue there
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Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:44 pm

What flywheel/starter motor have you used?
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Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:24 am

It's m20 flywheel lightened and m20 2.5 starter
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Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:17 am

MOODY wrote:It's m20 flywheel lightened and m20 2.5 starter
Facelift or pre?
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Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:21 am

You could try connect pin 15 of the c101 to earth.
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Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:27 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:
MOODY wrote:It's m20 flywheel lightened and m20 2.5 starter
Facelift or pre?
Facelift
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Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:52 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:What do you have connected to pin 15 of your engine loom plug?
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Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:58 pm

Nothing it is empty the car loom side it's a green and black wire
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Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:08 pm

try putting a jumper cable from pin 15 to earth. that should do it...
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Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:30 pm

Just tried it no joy
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Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:21 pm

There should be a green/black wire running from pin 15 to the smallest terminal post on your starter motor.
Earthing pin 15 as a test should make things work as a test though.
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Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:01 am

There is a green/Blk wire it's the car side on the plug and when I've earthed that there's no difference
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Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:14 am

If there's nothing connected to pin 15 of the engine loom, then you shouldn't have a heater fan or door mirrors either. Something odd here!
Are relays K5 and K7 in place in the fusebox?
Pull out K5 and link together pins 30 and 87 of its base with a piece of wire and try the windows.
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Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:33 am

MOODY wrote:How do I have to wire the starter then, the top of the starter has 2 thin wires and the bottom a thick one, fuse is ok and mirrors don't work
Currently slumming it in an E46 Touring
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Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:53 pm

Gortour wrote:
MOODY wrote:How do I have to wire the starter then, the top of the starter has 2 thin wires and the bottom a thick one, fuse is ok and mirrors don't work
No mention of heater fan!
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