New forums & changes to old ones

[B7]

Lets have a section for rucks that never gets locked, what fun that would be.

Lets 'ave it. Here. Now. You and me you coooont!

[B7]

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Can anybody envisage a Pub who,s only form of conversation
is car related?

Have no problem with either Stance or Drift forums, this is
an ever changing forum and as such should be open to all.
As long as either formats are keeping E30,s on the road
and are not mechanically dangerous, or driven irresponsibly,
then good luck to them.
No one is forced to enter a forum.

Spot on

Exactly.

If people want an OEM, buff your cars daily, drive them when it's sunny forum, try the BMWCC.

Just because some members on here don't like drifting or stance doesn't mean it's wrong or doesn't have a place on here.
I know a couple people who don't agree with my choice of engine conversions in the past (or any conversion in one case), but they don't feel need to come on here and try to banish the engine swap section from the forum.

Some people really need to wake up and realise that the Zone and the world of E30s is bigger than their ideal surrounding their own ideas, cars and BMW logo polishing rags.

Engine conversions are one thing (as long as it's in keeping ) and modding is ok as long as it's done for the right reason. Dips put a rover V8 in a touring and even that was cool.

Taking a car and slowly killing it with welded diffs or stripping the paint and letting it rust is wrong on so many levels and will drag this site down. Hopefully both are fads that will die a quick death like colour matching in the 80's.

[gooner1]

For the record, I have no interest in Drifting or Stancing my motor.

A question to all the haterz out there though.
Would any of you have any hesitation in selling parts or even a whole
car to any of their fanboyz Answer truthfully.

PS. I,m not talking pristine OEM low mileage examples here.

[Kos]

I've refused to sell one car to one idiot in 16 years. Otherwise as long as the notes are real who cares

If some one wants to buy a car and destroy it its their porogative, and I'd they do wreck it the others just become more valuable

[andyp]

Lets have a section for rucks that never gets locked, what fun that would be.

Lets 'ave it. Here. Now. You and me you SOUTHERN coooont!

+1

[bigwinn]

Would be interesting to see, as most stats are available for review, what our community numbers look like:

Active members (posted in last month)
Average tenure after joining
Top 250 posters
Top 50 thread starters

Stuff like that.

Then meaningful thoughts can go into creating new rooms/areas instead of knee jerking or reacting to a minority presence-

But that means also being clear on what the site key reason for being is....

Just my fourpenneth of what I'd do if I had the data

Statistical analysis.... Make sure the oem crowd do it. If the stance & drift cocks do it we will only get a presentation of funny cats & potential death, from choking on a crayon!!

Good idea but time consuming!!

[Steve]

You're right, there are other forums to cater for drifting and stance but just e30s, no? Should I delete the for sale forums because we have Ebay that sells lots of E30 stuff?

I know for a fact there are members on here with drift and stance projects, done to the highest standard that are to afraid to post. A lot of our members are also members of Driftworks and Stancework, which are both exelent sites !

If you think the Zone is a OEM only site, then you're on the wrong site, all I've ever asked is that you enjoy your E30, and enjoy them we will

[Rav335uk]

You're right, there are other forums to cater for drifting and stance but just e30s, no? Should I delete the for sale forums because we have Ebay that sells lots of E30 stuff?

I know for a fact there are members on here with drift and stance projects, done to the highest standard that are to afraid to post. A lot of our members are also members of Driftworks and Stancework, which are both exelent sites !

If you think the Zone is a OEM only site, then you're on the wrong site, all I've ever asked is that you enjoy your E30, and enjoy them we will

Well said Steve.
I know many on here that post on the other forums

[capri_rob]

I dont see anything wrong with having dedicated drift and stance subforums - hopefully this will shift the "just baught a 318i for £150 wanna weld the diff and slam it on ebay coilovers innit" type threads out of general E30 chat / Tech help and into an area where people who want to read about that sort of thing can enjoy it without getting flamed

[pacerpete]

You're right, there are other forums to cater for drifting and stance but just e30s, no? Should I delete the for sale forums because we have Ebay that sells lots of E30 stuff?

I know for a fact there are members on here with drift and stance projects, done to the highest standard that are to afraid to post. A lot of our members are also members of Driftworks and Stancework, which are both exelent sites !

If you think the Zone is a OEM only site, then you're on the wrong site, all I've ever asked is that you enjoy your E30, and enjoy them we will

Well said Steve.
I know many on here that post on the other forums

Rav for mod !!! lick , lick, lick !

[Rav335uk]

Wipe your mouth!!

[pacerpete]

Wipe your mouth!!

My tongue is squeaky clean, unlike yours !

[Rav335uk]

Wipe your mouth!!

My tongue is squeaky clean, unlike yours !

Good to hear Sheila

[jonny323i]

OOOOh exciting just promise it wont be like hotmails new outlook page thats awfull it should have been left alone

[Mo13]

Any news on a mobile version or even an app?

The new Zone will have a mobile theme if you require it, I will look at getting an app but not at this stage

Great! Saves a lot of pinching the phone and easy to navigate

[capnmchl]

Nothing wrong with drifters if they cars they're using are crap anyway. I'd rather see someone get a car that ain't worth restoring and drift it and get some fun out of it then just frag it on here. And if it's a nice car, then they've either got a fair bit of money or they were in the right place at the right time, or they've invested in it, and they're going to have fun in it. Just like some of the people on here get enjoyment out of restoring and caring for their cars. Same goes for people wanting to 'stance' (hate that word, just makes me think of 18 year old fast car readers who own polos and completely ruined the scene) their cars.

As said, if you don't agree with it, don't go in there, especially if it has its own subforum.

I agree about having too many subforums though. There isn't enough returning users to warrant loads of subforums, and as said, it'll end up being a bit of a ghost town.

[BEERBOY123]

I'm really looking forward to an OEM section!

No more bruvved cars to offend my delicate eyes!

Bring it on.

[Mo13]

You're right, there are other forums to cater for drifting and stance but just e30s, no? Should I delete the for sale forums because we have Ebay that sells lots of E30 stuff?

I know for a fact there are members on here with drift and stance projects, done to the highest standard that are to afraid to post. A lot of our members are also members of Driftworks and Stancework, which are both exelent sites !

If you think the Zone is a OEM only site, then you're on the wrong site, all I've ever asked is that you enjoy your E30, and enjoy them we will

2 separate sections will allow the non OEM cars to be show cased without getting an ear full from the diehard OEM members and get advise/tips from the more expirenced members. OEM fans can visit the OEM section without getting p1ssed off. Just have to make sure rules are set so there’s no abuse when 1 wonders into the other forums. This would mean more turds on show for the neutrals and possibly more activity on in the zone.

[jonny323i]

Should we have a pin to enter each section

[Mo13]

Should we have a pin to enter each section

You will end up with everyone with both pins



need to take the more dificult route and be sensible!

[jmc330i]

welded diffs or stripping the paint and letting it rust is wrong on so many levels and will drag this site down.

Only thing that will (and has already I fear) drag this site down is people's inability to accept cars/styles/mods etc that they don't agree with and fill threads up with useless and pointless posts complaining/bitching about them.

As I said earlier, the Zone is bigger than just OEM and should continue to grow and succeed with everyone enjoying it, whether they drive/polish a low mileage minter or £500 mat black shitter that will get scrapped once its served its purpose.

Unfortunately the Zone seems to have gained a bad name on other forums due to a number of our members who don't speak for everyone on here, but seem to think its ok to force their personal views on any new members who dare to post something that's deemed not acceptable. That's not what the Zone is about.

If drifting etc is to be pushed to other forums, then is there a need for the 'other BMW chat' section? - this is the E30 zone after all and there are other forums available for other BMWs.

Or, we could have a great forum where everyone is welcome regardless of what car they drive or what they do with it.

[Brianmoooore]

Unfortunately the Zone seems to have gained a bad name on other forums

That's a matter of opinion! From what I've seen it's gained just the reputation I want from driftcocks.

[jonny323i]

The zone is a victim of its own success as a small forum it had a certain lot of members now its much larger there's greater chance for a difference of opinion and bickering.
I'm on several forums for lots of different things and they all got the same way eventually

[Rancid]

The less we see off drifting and stance cocks the better. Wrong image imo

Making statements like that promotes the wrong image IMO.

*Closed minded and offensive*

Whether or not that's truly your state of mind, the way you word your post (by calling people interested in drifting - a valid motorsport - and stance - a valid form of styling - "cocks"), anyone who's interested in these things is instantly a cock; However this is clearly untrue and to make a statement like that doesn't exactly look good.

[jmc330i]

Unfortunately the Zone seems to have gained a bad name on other forums

That's a matter of opinion! From what I've seen it's gained just the reputation I want from driftcocks.

I'm not a member of any drift forums, I've seen comments on both BMW related and non-BMW forums that show this place is regarded as a bit of a laughing stock.

Calling people driftcocks is the kind of statement that won't help this forum, especially from a moderator when the site owner seems to want to expand the site for everyone to feel welcome to use.

[Kos]

Unfortunately the Zone seems to have gained a bad name on other forums

That's a matter of opinion! From what I've seen it's gained just the reputation I want from driftcocks.

Yes Brian , I like it !

Proper drift cars welcome and are cars with a stance. But the dog shite scrap that are wannabes of both 'scenes' can fkoff

[Rancid]

it's gained just the reputation I want from driftcocks.

Calling people driftcocks is the kind of statement that won't help this forum

Brian, I've seen you offer excellent advice and information to countless people on here in the past and you generally come across as an intelligent and reasonable guy.

However (there's always a "but", eh?), whilst you're a member of staff on this site (voluntary or no) you should display a bit of professionalism as you do technically represent the Zone whilst you have "Team Member" under your name - EVEN if you do think that people who do certain things with their e30's are cocks.
I don't think the best of alot of my customers, but I'm fairly careful over preventing them from knowing this.

[jmc330i]

Unfortunately the Zone seems to have gained a bad name on other forums

That's a matter of opinion! From what I've seen it's gained just the reputation I want from driftcocks.

Yes Brian , I like it !

Proper drift cars welcome and are cars with a stance. But the dog shite scrap that are wannabes of both 'scenes' can fkoff

Yes, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any distinction in the eyes of some on here. As soon as the words drift or stance are mentioned all hell breaks loose.

Just because someone can afford to build a proper specced drift car doesn't mean they have more right to post up about it on here compared to another guy who is enjoying himself drifting a sub £1k car. As long as it is being done safely and responsibly it shouldn't matter what they're driving. If that isn't the case, I'm sure they will be told, but to tar every drifter with the same brush (as some on here do) isn't on IMO.

[verde]

I have to agree that this kinda attitude doesnt help. I think welding diffs etc is a bit of a mockery and sliding a prefacelift round an oval in a field is pretty scummy but each to their own as wrong as it is. But as mentioned the zones reputation is shit. It should be seen as a wealthy bank of knowledge full of enthusiasts who want to help each other out instead of " E30zone as a whole is a gathering ground for narrow minded cunts "

Threads of new members posting up cars theyv bought and have come across rust and members laughing at them telling them to bin it and how much of an idiot they were. The zone is going to die if doesnt adapt a bit. Iv been on the zone for a tiny amount of time compared to a lot of members but even in the time iv been here its gotten a lot quieter.

[verde]

That's a matter of opinion! From what I've seen it's gained just the reputation I want from driftcocks.

Yes Brian , I like it !

Proper drift cars welcome and are cars with a stance. But the dog shite scrap that are wannabes of both 'scenes' can fkoff

Yes, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any distinction in the eyes of some on here. As soon as the words drift or stance are mentioned all hell breaks loose.

Just because someone can afford to build a proper specced drift car doesn't mean they have more right to post up about it on here compared to another guy who is enjoying himself drifting a sub £1k car.

This was an argument in a drift thread that angered me, people saying 10k drift specific cars are fine but amatuer enthusiasts are not. There seems to be a large grey area between D1GP spec and council fuckers sliding round roundabouts with a welded diff filled with stereotypes and not many facts.

[B7]

If drifting etc is to be pushed to other forums, then is there a need for the 'other BMW chat' section? - this is the E30 zone after all and there are other forums available for other BMWs.

Well of course there is!! It's lovely to see the odd B10 or 635 to break up the whole e30 thing.

As kos says, drifting as a motorsport and stance is one thing. And if theres a place for it here, I can choose whether or not to enter that area, but knobs who think they can drift in Tescos carpark or take shares out in nitromores to then strip their paintwork off is not an image I think should be promoted on a site trying to preserve a model. There are other sites that cater for that.

[B7]

The less we see off drifting and stance cocks the better. Wrong image imo

Making statements like that promotes the wrong image IMO.

*Closed minded and offensive*

Whether or not that's truly your state of mind, the way you word your post (by calling people interested in drifting - a valid motorsport - and stance - a valid form of styling - "cocks"), anyone who's interested in these things is instantly a c**k; However this is clearly untrue and to make a statement like that doesn't exactly look good.

It is my state of mind thanks. And Stancecocks and Driftcocks ha been a saying on here for a long time now and used freely.

Still ain't my cup of tea though. But thats my opinion. And I'm welcome to it just as you are yours.

[Rav335uk]

If drifting etc is to be pushed to other forums, then is there a need for the 'other BMW chat' section? - this is the E30 zone after all and there are other forums available for other BMWs.

Well of course there is!! It's lovely to see the odd B10 or 635 to break up the whole e30 thing.

As kos says, drifting as a motorsport and stance is one thing. And if theres a place for it here, I can choose whether or not to enter that area, but knobs who think they can drift in Tescos carpark or take shares out in nitromores to then strip their paintwork off is not an image I think should be promoted on a site trying to preserve a model. There are other sites that cater for that.

Funny you mention that "Rat" look Trevor.
I put it into Google search and this came up
I kid you not.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q ... IAw#imgrc=_

[Morat]

thread cleaned.

Stay on topic.

[clipper]

I reckon that too many are thinking that splitting the drift / stance / OEM into sections is a good thing because those that aren't interested in one of those disciplines won't bother going into its respective sub-forum.

But lets be honest, all that this will achieve is segregation, after a few tins of Special Brew of a Friday night the regular "trouble makers" will just dive into the sub-forum of their choice and rip the shyte out of that particular "enthusiast group", just for a cheap (but admittedly potentially amusing) short term laugh.