How much would missing service history devalue E30

[jimf]

I've no intention of selling my 325i cabrio yet but I was just wondering what the difference in value between a car with FSH and one with the service book missing would be.

The car is in fair condition, mot'd, free from major corrosion, mostly OEM, had a desirable interior and colour and has all old MOT's.

Im not looking for a valuation, just how much difference it would make. to be honest I'm interested whether the car is worth anywhere near what it owes me.

[gooner1]

Personally, FSH is a nice to have but i,d be more inclined to buy by condition.

For instance, if I was to buy a 325i and the history stated the timing belt had been changed
within speculated time/miles, I would still change it.

[pacerpete]

Missing history is a major issue with a 40000 mile minter and not an issue with a 150k 12 owner councilled up turd (The buyers usually cannot read anyway )

[jimf]

Well if I do ever sell it I hope the buyer thinks like that too. I bought just by going on condition, couldn't care less about mileage, and if the timing belt went I'd see that as an excuse for putting a 24v number in there.

[jimf]

Mine isn't a minter by any means but no visible or major rot, and I've done my best to de-council it. Just need to rid it of the alpina reps and get a more subtle exhaust now.

[Rtaylor2208]

I think as long as you keep the reciepts and get any stamps in the book if you pay someone to do any work would give a potential buyer the piece of mind that you personally looked after it irrelevant on the history.

Also as long as you own it for a good period of time shows its not a shitter, unlike alot of the E30's that you see come up for sale every few months.

[pony]

Missing history is a major issue with a 40000 mile minter and not an issue with a 150k 12 owner councilled up turd (The buyers usually cannot read anyway )

Andrew Dale gave me the wrong Service Book. The book says was sold by Stephen James but when I rang BMW they say was sold by L & C Tunbridge Wells. Plus very little history before him. Just Andrew Dale's receipts.

And all the receipts from my expenditure

[snakebrain]

And all the receipts from my expenditure

How long have you owned it/how good are your records? Even if earlier history is lost, a file with five years worth of diligent maintenance and upkeep records is going to be worth more in a buyer's mind than a receipt for a bucket of filler and three cans of hammerite dated three weeks previously. I'm guessing yours, like most, will be somewhere in between..

[pony]

And all the receipts from my expenditure

How long have you owned it/how good are your records? Even if earlier history is lost, a file with five years worth of diligent maintenance and upkeep records is going to be worth more in a buyer's mind than a receipt for a bucket of filler and three cans of hammerite dated three weeks previously. I'm guessing yours, like most, will be somewhere in between..

Owned since June 2010
I have spent quite a few k.
Lots of BMW receipts by me and I got some work done by Pacer so receipts with his handwriting.


PS and bunch of receipts and BMW parts invoices by previous owner

[Chris_B86]

And all the receipts from my expenditure

How long have you owned it/how good are your records? Even if earlier history is lost, a file with five years worth of diligent maintenance and upkeep records is going to be worth more in a buyer's mind than a receipt for a bucket of filler and three cans of hammerite dated three weeks previously. I'm guessing yours, like most, will be somewhere in between..

I agree here, think I'd rather have a car with the last 5 years well documented, than have something which is "full service history up to....." and then has nothing for the last few years

[pacerpete]

Missing history is a major issue with a 40000 mile minter and not an issue with a 150k 12 owner councilled up turd (The buyers usually cannot read anyway )

Andrew Dale gave me the wrong Service Book. The book says was sold by Stephen James but when I rang BMW they say was sold by L & C Tunbridge Wells. Plus very little history before him. Just Andrew Dale's receipts.

And all the receipts from my expenditure

Andrew Dale is a lying bodging weapons grade tool , but you know that

[Acox99]

I was wondering this too, I have a sound 325i lach chromie cab that I bought for £250, it's sound no rot, never been welded but its a mobile skip. It's all there but every panel is marked the interior is in tatters. The roof isn't complete, but it runs perfectly! It will be fully stripped inside and be re painted and put back together properly, I intend to keep it and fully document it. But as all I have is the log book I did wonder if in time it would still be worth top money

[pony]

Missing history is a major issue with a 40000 mile minter and not an issue with a 150k 12 owner councilled up turd (The buyers usually cannot read anyway )

Andrew Dale gave me the wrong Service Book. The book says was sold by Stephen James but when I rang BMW they say was sold by L & C Tunbridge Wells. Plus very little history before him. Just Andrew Dale's receipts.

And all the receipts from my expenditure

Andrew Dale is a lying bodging weapons grade tool , but you know that

I bumped into him the other week on a BMW Car Club trip

[pony]

I was wondering this too, I have a sound 325i lach chromie cab that I bought for £250, it's sound no rot, never been welded but its a mobile skip. It's all there but every panel is marked the interior is in tatters. The roof isn't complete, but it runs perfectly! It will be fully stripped inside and be re painted and put back together properly, I intend to keep it and fully document it. But as all I have is the log book I did wonder if in time it would still be worth top money

Cars that are worth top money are the standard low owners low mileage FBMWSH original paint everywhere no rust BMW E30 3 Series.

But hardly anyone has one on the Zone like this.

I suppose really highly restored cars in exceptional condition would get close but would not be able to command the prices of the ones I outlined above ....

[pacerpete]

Andrew Dale gave me the wrong Service Book. The book says was sold by Stephen James but when I rang BMW they say was sold by L & C Tunbridge Wells. Plus very little history before him. Just Andrew Dale's receipts.

And all the receipts from my expenditure

Andrew Dale is a lying bodging weapons grade tool , but you know that

I bumped into him the other week on a BMW Car Club trip

With a JCB I hope !

[pony]

Andrew Dale is a lying bodging weapons grade tool , but you know that

I bumped into him the other week on a BMW Car Club trip

With a JCB I hope !

Lol

I am getting an email published in the letters section of the BMW Car Club GB magazine "Straight Six" next month .... About the trip to BMW Park Lane


Oh and I got these in the post the other day ....

[Kos]

Wrong period

What you need is





I also have the tax disc holder and number plates

Pukar can make them for you but the key ring is Ãaber rare

[pony]

That looks stunning Kos. Are they both tax disc holders and rear window stickers genuine or replicas ?

Re the Park Lane gear is for the CS. The original owner bought from BMW Park Lane for under tax free sales as he was in the British Military serving in Germany. When I rang up BMW they said the supplying dealer is BMW International and Specialist Sales which is owned by BMW UK/BMW Park Lane. They have a showroom in Westminster and moved there after 2006 I believe. Before that showroom was called BMW Westminster I believe. I have a copy of the original invoice which says BMW Park Lane and I believe tax free sales were done in that Park Lane show room in 2006. At the moment has BMW Cotswold rear window sticker/tax disc holder/plates as was later sold as a BMW Approved Used Car there.

At the moment not sure whether to get modern Park Lane plates or period style of 2006 .... Saying BMW Park Lane with BMW Logo

[pacerpete]

That looks stunning Kos. Are they both tax disc holders and rear window stickers genuine or replicas ?

Re the Park Lane gear is for the CS. The original owner bought from BMW Park Lane for under tax free sales as he was in the British Military serving in Germany. When I rang up BMW they said the supplying dealer is BMW International and Specialist Sales which is owned by BMW UK/BMW Park Lane. They have a showroom in Westminster and moved there after 2006 I believe. Before that showroom was called BMW Westminster I believe. I have a copy of the original invoice which says BMW Park Lane and I believe tax free sales were done in that Park Lane show room in 2006. At the moment has BMW Cotswold rear window sticker/tax disc holder/plates as was later sold as a BMW Approved Used Car there.

At the moment not sure whether to get modern Park Lane plates or period style of 2006 .... Saying BMW Park Lane with BMW Logo

Soni , are you still cherried up by any chance ?

[polsta]

my car was a park lane, got a set of plates,tax,that rear window sticker from pukar, they are spot on !!

kos , do you want to sell that super looking, i mean rubbish looking not worth anything key ring

[Kos]

Go period correct IMO

I though you bought a that for your tech1

[pony]

That looks stunning Kos. Are they both tax disc holders and rear window stickers genuine or replicas ?

Re the Park Lane gear is for the CS. The original owner bought from BMW Park Lane for under tax free sales as he was in the British Military serving in Germany. When I rang up BMW they said the supplying dealer is BMW International and Specialist Sales which is owned by BMW UK/BMW Park Lane. They have a showroom in Westminster and moved there after 2006 I believe. Before that showroom was called BMW Westminster I believe. I have a copy of the original invoice which says BMW Park Lane and I believe tax free sales were done in that Park Lane show room in 2006. At the moment has BMW Cotswold rear window sticker/tax disc holder/plates as was later sold as a BMW Approved Used Car there.

At the moment not sure whether to get modern Park Lane plates or period style of 2006 .... Saying BMW Park Lane with BMW Logo

Soni , are you still cherried up by any chance ?

What does cherried up mean I am not familiar with some of this Zone lingo ?

[pony]

Go period correct IMO

I though you bought a that for your tech1

I haven't driven the Tech1 in about 14 months
Tech 1 was originally from L and C Tunbridge Wells I think.
But I been missing driving it

[pony]

my car was a park lane, got a set of plates,tax,that rear window sticker from pukar, they are spot on !!

kos , do you want to sell that super looking, i mean rubbish looking not worth anything key ring

Did u get pukar to make u period tax disc holders and plates or did u get the latest ones ?

I know it sounds gay but I noticed some of the Park Lane plates they haven't put it dead centre .... See here the Park Lane lettering is too close to the border .... Btw I was blessed enough to get a go in this M5 ....




U see the lettering too close to the border. On another Park Lane car I seen with those plates parked on a street is spaced nicely.

Just for u lot to perv on .... I took this the other day
Here is a 8 Series in Knightsbridge









U all gonna think I got OCD now lol

[polsta]

got period ones mate they are different to those and have the cool looking stripes, it was cooper park lane originaly, then changed to just park lane and they moved premises a few doors along, i cant wait for the day when i fit them on the car, will be nice finishing touches

[jimf]

Not that I really care that much but why has this post turned into a private discussion about tax disc holders?