cant wait to get my BBTB...

General E30 related discussions -
Please put technical questions in E30 Tech Help forum below

Moderator: martauto

User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:38 pm

getting a M52 BBTB plus with my M50 manifold. Anyone else got this setup? love to know what BHP your getting!!
macas
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1696
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
Location: BEAUTIFUL BIRMINGHAM

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:43 pm

Have you already done your m52 conversion?and has it the standerd inlet manifold?

If so,(i know it cost money)but it would be good to get before and after power figures.

Am planning getting one of these myself for my conversion.....
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:47 pm

macas wrote:Have you already done your m52 conversion?and has it the standerd inlet manifold?

If so,(i know it cost money)but it would be good to get before and after power figures.

Am planning getting one of these myself for my conversion.....
yeah mate got it all done last year, now with the M50 manifold M20 flywheel, E36 gearbox ZF and 3.25 LSD now just waiting on the BBTB but dont think i'll get it before xmas cos of the post :(
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 pm

any links to this bbtb ?
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:53 pm

macas
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1696
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
Location: BEAUTIFUL BIRMINGHAM

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:55 pm

Rich,how much was all together with the m50 adapter plate?
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:57 pm

got my M50 ages ago with it all sorted but the adapter is £150
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:59 pm

that link to that seller i gave ya he does do them message him. think they cost £200 all sorted from him. thats for the M50 manifold + adaptor

going to get a remap in the new year and some people can get 253BHP with all the mods
Last edited by rich318i on Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:02 pm

his adaptor plates are £10, bbtb £80 = £90

how do you get £150 or are you including the cost of your m50 manifold ?
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:04 pm

because the M52 manifold is not like the M50. or we got our lines crossed lol
macas
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1696
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
Location: BEAUTIFUL BIRMINGHAM

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:06 pm

rich318i wrote:because the M52 manifold is not like the M50. or we got our lines crossed lol
But he does say the adaptor plate is so we can fit it to the m50 manifold?
polsta
Married to the E30 Zone
Married to the E30 Zone
Posts: 10322
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:00 pm
Location: portsmouth

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:06 pm

he says you can put them on an e30 , what would a btbb be like on a 325 standard ? would it also make it a lot more thirsty ?
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:08 pm

so if you have an m50 manifold you only need to spend £90 + post for a bbtb and a plate and your good to go ?
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:09 pm

macas wrote:
rich318i wrote:because the M52 manifold is not like the M50. or we got our lines crossed lol
But he does say the adaptor plate is so we can fit it to the m50 manifold?
thats it mate thought u was on about the M50 adaptor for the ICV and so on... job done!!
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:12 pm

magpie wrote:so if you have an m50 manifold you only need to spend £90 + post for a bbtb and a plate and your good to go ?


Noooo!!! message him for everything for it. for plug and play is about 250
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:15 pm

you need this aswell

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1965- ... 52s52.aspx

but message him mate for everything
macas
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1696
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
Location: BEAUTIFUL BIRMINGHAM

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:19 pm

rich318i wrote:you need this aswell

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1965- ... 52s52.aspx

but message him mate for everything
Wait there a minute......forgetting the bbtb,i thought the m50 manifold fits without any such kit mentioned in that link?

Or do you need it specifically when using the bbtb?
Sorry if im sounding a bit thick here.... :D
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:29 pm

to make to the M50 work on the M52 you need..

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1965- ... 52s52.aspx

THIS SETUP^^^^ IS LIKE OEM M50 TO M52

its for the ICV and that, others buy DIY pipes and j-chips and that for it to work but thats not the way to go. loads of people get air leaks (problems)
Then the BBTB is easy
penton08
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1206
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:00 pm

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:32 pm


Total shite im affraid!! I bought one from the same seller, after fitting i had idle issues and a crap throttle response. I swapped back to standard and its perfect again. The butterfly does not seal in the TB and the edges are not chamfered resulting in a nasty pedal feel!!
DanThe
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 28649
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Staffs

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:33 pm

You dont need any of that crap, your throwing your money away. Any HP gain is negligible too
macas
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1696
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
Location: BEAUTIFUL BIRMINGHAM

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:35 pm

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 24&start=0

Iv just read this and the outcome is,is tgat there is no need for this kit?

That was what was confusing me......
macas
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1696
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
Location: BEAUTIFUL BIRMINGHAM

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:36 pm

DanThe wrote:You dont need any of that crap, your throwing your money away. Any HP gain is negligible too
So the 8-10 bhp is abit suss(the bbtb that is)?
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:39 pm

why didnt you give him bad feedback? his got 100% good feedback
penton08
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1206
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:00 pm

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:44 pm

rich318i wrote:why didnt you give him bad feedback? his got 100% good feedback
Same old story!! I left feedback when I received it, 3 months later I got round to fitting it :-x
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:56 pm

if thats the case its a part thats not safe and misleading selling.
penton08
E30 Zone Camper
E30 Zone Camper
Posts: 1206
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:00 pm

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:02 pm

rich318i wrote:if thats the case its a part thats not safe and misleading selling.

It is not unsafe or misleading, it is just crap!
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:05 pm

penton08 wrote:
rich318i wrote:why didnt you give him bad feedback? his got 100% good feedback
Same old story!! I left feedback when I received it, 3 months later I got round to fitting it :-x


what set up was you running?
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:19 pm

i just message him about it and he reply was.. i'd give you your mony back if that happens. its not shipped yet so im asking him now b4 it is posted covering my self
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:26 pm

after reading the above comments and reading Lees posts in the link i'd get your money back now Rich .
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:30 pm

these lads dont say they was shit....

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=230709
macas
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1696
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:00 pm
Location: BEAUTIFUL BIRMINGHAM

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:33 pm

rich318i wrote:these lads dont say they was shit....

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=230709
Thats the thread that made me think of getting one.....
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:33 pm

Mag mate i'll find out my self.. but the dude has 100% feedback 619 in total. you have to be a prat to give feedback b4 you try the part out....

No not just that but the ECU NEEDS REMAPPING thats what everyone forgets
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:39 pm

you should try driving a M52 with racing cams bad idle is an under statment.
magpie
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 28035
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: Consett,Durham.

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:46 pm

Danthe does remapped ecu's for m50 inlets and i've got mine on order with him for when i drop the m52 in .penton has this set up on his m52 and it nailed a really good time on it's first outing at pod this year,i've forgot the time exactly but it was good and in the 13's with a strong headwind .

i'm just going to stick with Dan's advice but hope your bbtb doesn't turn into a setback.
Image
m52 b30 stroker 6-speed 318is Galvanizer
m42 touring
+ a yard full of scrap turds :)
User avatar
rich318i
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2393
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Brands :) :)

Post Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:48 pm

you need a custom remap to your car not a clone!