alpina 17" rubbing in rear arches

[toptints]

Hi... I have a 325i coupe and i'm running 17" alpina replicas with 215/40/17 tyres. The tyres rub on the rear arches on the inside, not on the lip. Has anyone else had this problem... ? do you know if it will stop by putting a 205/40/17 on instead. The car is not heavily lowered either. any help would be much appriciated.

Chris

[bigdek]

205 are fine m8 i run them on my sport and it s on a 60/40 h & r cup kit


zero rubbing . 215 did

[DanThe]

We had exactly the same prob on the work horse.
17" alpina reps with 215/45/17's and lowered with bilstein -35 springs and gas dampers.
Do your wheels have 8 holes in the centres?

Anyway, these were catching the lips also, at the front of the arch.
I folded the arches all the way round and sealed them up, and beat out the inner arch, only a few mm's.
no rubbing now, even with a boot full of tools and rear passengers

[Nelly]

205's should sort the problem, the size means that the tyre wall will come into the tread on more of an angle hense pulling away from the inner+outer arches.

Hope this helps.

Neil.

[toptints]

thanks very much for your prompt replies. Thought i'd better check before i splash out on another Ԛ£300 on new tyres again. Great help. Thanks.

[gareth]

i've had these in two different offsets. ET20 and ET35 i think...

ET20 will rub the outer arch with those tyres on
ET35 will rub the inner arch with those tyres on

i've tried this on my car...

if it's the nasty BK racing ones (8 bolt holes) then i'd get some better ones! i did this too!

i now have ET28 16" quality replicas with 215/40/16's. there's no chance f it rubbing now!

some 205/40/17's should cure it though....

[DanThe]

Whats the max tyre width you think you could get away with on your wheels Gareth? Im looking at buying some 16" Alpina reps for my own and have been told 225?
The wheels have an 'alan key' headed countersunk bolt to hold the centres in. Dont know whether they could be the same?

[pistonbroke]

I'm running 225/45 Potenzas on 16" Alpinas without a problem, car's dropped 35mm. BTW - wheel centre locks are available from the dealers to replace that 'Allen' head fixing. Hope this helps..........

[DanThe]

You rekon the gen locks will fit then?
never gave it a second thought!

[gareth]

i very much doubt the genuine locks will fit. mine use a M6 countersunk screw to hold them in, the genuine ones have somethig a lot larger. i've got tamperproof torq screws in mine to keep the pikey fookers out!

it sounds like the wheels you're looking at are the same ones as mine. if so, i'd say 225 is the limit, 215 is just right.

i'm running a 40mm drop with soft springs and i have never had any scrubbing with these wheels, there's loads and loads of room. the 17's scrubbed like a b4stard the whole time!

pics here if you're interested:
with 17" BK nasties!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure004.jpg

the 16's on the car, awaiting screws for centre caps
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure069.jpg
and
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure071.jpg

16" V 17"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure064.jpg

finally, what the 16's were like before i gave the to lepsons... i can't tell which one needed repairing now!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure012.jpg

[TINSNIPS]

had 245/40x17 on rear rubbed like f**k replaced with 205/40x17 sweet now speedo is out by 5mph

[technoviolet]

i very much doubt the genuine locks will fit. mine use a M6 countersunk screw to hold them in, the genuine ones have somethig a lot larger. i've got tamperproof torq screws in mine to keep the pikey fookers out!

it sounds like the wheels you're looking at are the same ones as mine. if so, i'd say 225 is the limit, 215 is just right.

i'm running a 40mm drop with soft springs and i have never had any scrubbing with these wheels, there's loads and loads of room. the 17's scrubbed like a b4stard the whole time!

pics here if you're interested:
with 17" BK nasties!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure004.jpg

the 16's on the car, awaiting screws for centre caps
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure069.jpg
and
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure071.jpg

16" V 17"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure064.jpg

finally, what the 16's were like before i gave the to lepsons... i can't tell which one needed repairing now!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure012.jpg

Gareth,what is the name of the co.who make the decent alpina reps?.(ie like your 16's as opposed to the bk reps with 8 holes).I want to change mine(8 hole bk racing crap) for the better quality 4 hole alpina reps.

[Jordan]

Replacing the tire with a smaller one really isn't the solution here. Rolling the fenders and getting a stiffer suspension is. Also you can add thicker rear spring pads to bring the back end up just a bit. If you constantly carry cargo in the trunk move it as far forward as possible. This will also help.

215/40R17 should fit perfect on the 17x7.5 ET20 Kopi wheel. I know alot of people running this combo without an issue.

-Jordan (245/40R17's no rubbing)

[nikos]

do kopi has a different ET from bk?

[gareth]

Gareth,what is the name of the co.who make the decent alpina reps?.(ie like your 16's as opposed to the bk reps with 8 holes).I want to change mine(8 hole bk racing crap) for the better quality 4 hole alpina reps.

i think they're made by someone called AP. there are no very obvious markings relating to the manufacturer. it's easy to spot them from the shape. as far as i can tell, they're a near direct copy of the 7" genuine alpina rim. the rim shape itself is a lot more angular and sharp. you can see the difference here:
left is 17" BK171, right is 16" AP(?) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure064.jpg
this is the 16" one before refurb as you can see the shape better and the area under the centre cap. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v382/ ... ure015.jpg

[smithy318i]

Does this look right ? 40mm rear with 215/40/R17's small rubbing in outer lip.
There are 6 wheels on the back seat/in the boot, to simulate passengers.

[E30BeemerLad]

that looks coolio smithy, lower than mine at the rear

reckon the rubbing will go if you stick some 205's on. Never had mine rub on 205's under hard cornering or speed humps.

[Jimbob]

Smithy does it cause rubbing without the 'passengers' ?

I want to fit 215/40/17 on an 8.5" rim and think I'm gonna have issues..

[RSTurbo50]

I gota say I think the 17's luk better on than the 16" reps.....

The 16" Wheels dont fill the arches unlike the 17's!!!!

Personal opinion of course but I think the larger wheels luk better on an E30...particularly in the case of the sport!

Stu

[nav786]

smithy- with 205 rubber you'll have no rubbing. my brother had same problem. or you can have the lip folded.

[smithy318i]

Smithy does it cause rubbing without the 'passengers' ?

I want to fit 215/40/17 on an 8.5" rim and think I'm gonna have issues..

They don't rub without a lot of weight in the back. However the tyre is VERY close to the outer arch lip.

[BMWE34M5]

Is there a supplier of the Alpina replica wheels in the UK?
We're thinking of exporting our 17"x7.5" Kopi wheels to the UK.
Mel Abrahams
www.abrahamsmotorsport.com

[bigdek]

yes 2 or 3

[pacerpete]

All my cars have correct factory suspension and wheels, no rubbing, no wobbling, no loose fillings , see men the answer to all your woes is very simple !

[bazman]

Bit off topic, but I have the Bk's fitted, and as they are getting a slating can anyone tell me whats wrong with them, I tihnk they look ok and they dont give me any probs.
Also, can anyone tell me where to get the centre caps with the BMW logo on as the BK ones look a bit RS.

Thanks,

Baz

[BMWE34M5]

Could you please give me the URL's.
Do you know if they're made in China?

yes 2 or 3

[parksie]

Bit off topic, but I have the Bk's fitted, and as they are getting a slating can anyone tell me whats wrong with them, I tihnk they look ok and they dont give me any probs.
Also, can anyone tell me where to get the centre caps with the BMW logo on as the BK ones look a bit RS.

Thanks,

Baz

Gotta agree with my man from the South West Whats all the fuss about these wheels .

They're relatively inexpensive look the Dogs bollocks& i too dont have any problems.

Mine are 18" BK reps fitted with 215/35zr 18's no rubbing! but ive got rolled arch's

Baz ,why not get some genuine alpina badges from ----

www.autotintdesign.com not exactly cheap but the real thing.