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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:24 pm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4X-tyres-Mich ... 3ccba8a444

Anyone used these yet ?

Have a read through and see what you think.

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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:58 pm

If you want to die going backwards down an embankment after hitting a puddle - go for it
If you want to replace them after 3 months because they've worn out or gone mishaped - go for it
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:35 pm

capnmchl wrote:If you want to die going backwards down an embankment after hitting a puddle - go for it
If you want to replace them after 3 months because they've worn out or gone mishaped - go for it
Is this based upon fact or you "just dont like " the look of them?
I`m only trying to find out facts about them or someone who has actually had experience of them.

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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:42 pm

I was once told Commercial Aircraft use remolds

They do have bad press, prehaps these days they're not as bad ??
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:42 pm

i wouldnt touch retreads with a bargepole.

alright on a tractor, but not on something i might want to put my family in or drive enthusiastically.

i'd rather buy a set of new nankangs for £44 each http://www.camskill.co.uk/m62b0s300p943 ... R16_87V_TL_
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:47 pm

Alex wrote:I was once told Commercial Aircraft use remolds

They do have bad press, prehaps these days they're not as bad ??
These are not re-moulds and yes most air liners and trucks have re-cut or re-mould tyres.

Alot of comments but no fact related ones yet.

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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:48 pm

I thought retread was a remould ?? :?
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:52 pm

it is, it's a used tyre that's buffed up and has new rubber with fresh tread stuck and baked on. different names for the same thing.

re-cut is where fresh tread is cut into an existing worn tyre, and can only be done to a certain depth and on tyres designed for it.
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:53 pm

Alex wrote:I thought retread was a remould ?? :?

I`ts a different process so I`m led to belive.

The re-mould has it`s tread "stuck" on but the re-tread has the new tread moulded on under heat in an oven.
This is what I`m led to belive, so I may be wrong.

Check out the load and speed ratings for both re-mould and re-tread.

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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:53 pm

"Brand new RETREAD never been on the road" is a bit of a misnomer, as it probably will have been on the road in its previous life! :mad:
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:07 pm

I`m still looking for people who have tried these .

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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:54 pm

My personal opinion only but i would pay a bit extra and get new budgets, i have had good experience with kumho,accelera,federal,nexen. I had nankang and thought they were poor in the wet.For everyday driving you wont go far wrong with the names i listed.Those retreads may have new rubber stuck on but the casing and structure have had a lifetime of heat cycles ,flexing and bumps already.For fast road and track use then premium or track type tyres would be better.I also would avoid the likes of sunny,wanli,goodride etc.Cheap but no grip. Only my opinion but i get to drive lots of cars evey day.
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:01 pm

martauto wrote:
Alex wrote:I was once told Commercial Aircraft use remolds

They do have bad press, prehaps these days they're not as bad ??
These are not re-moulds and yes most air liners and trucks have re-cut or re-mould tyres.

Alot of comments but no fact related ones yet.

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who cares about facts !! £155 for a set of these re tred garbage - in a RWD e30 of all cars 8O its more common sense and what confidence in your car you have when driving, you seem to be wanting to convince yourself these are decent ?

its not much more for a set of half decent brand new tyres

think about it...that works out say £37 each - for that price, they have to collect/aquire them take them to the place , test them, re tred them, test them again, then sell them on for a profit... its a no brainer that not much goes in to it !

if £60-100 extra for new , is that much of an issue your looking at these...buy a set of part worn decent tyres !!!
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:31 pm

martauto wrote:
capnmchl wrote:If you want to die going backwards down an embankment after hitting a puddle - go for it
If you want to replace them after 3 months because they've worn out or gone mishaped - go for it
Is this based upon fact or you "just dont like " the look of them?
I`m only trying to find out facts about them or someone who has actually had experience of them.

Mart.
The mishaped/worn bit is true, and having driven a car with remoulds, my best description of wet handling is terrifying.

There's a reason Nankangs etc got the name ditchfinders and there's a reason these are in the same league.
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:35 pm

I've had a couple of cars with dodgy looking remoulds fitted by previous owners, and was pretty glad when I got them changed, even for part-worns.

However, decent quality new remoulds such as those made by Colway can be OK - they use them on rally cars, for instance.
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:41 pm

where Dezzy when you need him, he's a man to talk to about tyres.

probably out walking his whippet.....
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Post Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:56 pm

I've not used the brand in question, but I have used retreaded tyres for racing on short oval tracks, absolutely shocking on tarmac, pretty much like driving with plastic tyres - so much understeer I actually pulled in thinking I had a flat! There's no way they'd end up on my road car... interestingly though, I seem to remember them being ok on the shale track :mad:

I guess the process of retreading could be ok, but it depends on the quality of rubber being used. I can only think it will be the cheapest of the cheap for the companies to make a profit.
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