Whats your favourite BMW M5 ?

[jonb]

I still think the best looking one was the e34 variant with the throwing star wheels, preferably in macau blue.

[oomz1975]

e28 is the best looking but the e39 is the best overall package especially when you take in to account how cheap they are now

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[bss325i]

E60 M5 - a nasty, 13mpg ticking bomb. No ta.

+1!

If you want an E60, get an Alpina B5/B5S or a manual 550i.

[shadrack]

E60 M5 - a nasty, 13mpg ticking bomb. No ta.

+1!

If you want an E60, get an Alpina B5/B5S or a manual 550i.

why are they a time bomb? and they do 19mpg combined

[bmw9818]

e39 M5, looked badass! interior coudnt get anymore perfect!

e60 im not a fan off partially due to the lacklustre interior, it just doesnt feel right

New f10? is spot on again interior is driver focused and is proper luxury!

[maxfield]

E60 M5 - a nasty, 13mpg ticking bomb. No ta.

+1!

If you want an E60, get an Alpina B5/B5S or a manual 550i.

why are they a time bomb? and they do 19mpg combined

I've known a low mileage E60 bend valves due to timing chain failure.

[shadrack]

+1!

If you want an E60, get an Alpina B5/B5S or a manual 550i.

why are they a time bomb? and they do 19mpg combined

I've known a low mileage E60 bend valves due to timing chain failure.

hmm theres alot of cars you could say that on, my e36 m3 had a full engine rebuild at 4 years old, and some e60s are getting on abit now

[B7]

For me it has to be a run out e34 3.8 LE in what I think they called Rosso.

[bss325i]

For me it has to be a run out e34 3.8 LE in what I think they called Rosso.

Rosso with champagne leather or Orinoco green with mint green leather.

Good shout!

[bss325i]

E60 M5 - a nasty, 13mpg ticking bomb. No ta.

+1!

If you want an E60, get an Alpina B5/B5S or a manual 550i.

why are they a time bomb? and they do 19mpg combined

In the real world they do 15 give or tak and have a pathetically small tank.

Plenty of expensive bits to go wrong on them.

[Andyboy]

E60 M5 - a nasty, 13mpg ticking bomb. No ta.

+1!

If you want an E60, get an Alpina B5/B5S or a manual 550i.

why are they a time bomb? and they do 19mpg combined

Because when the big oily bits go wrong - and they surely will if the car is driven as intended - the repairs will cost as much as the car is worth. It's an amazing bit of engineering, but unlike the Italian exotica, the M5's will not be worth enough to repair - and you can forget DIY fixes. They will be down to £6000 in 2 years time.

And 19 mpg my arse!

I haven't driven one, but given that the 2003 onwards E Class is a nicer car than the E60, the AMG 63 is going to be a better propostion. It at least has a proper gearbox.

[pony]

For me it has to be a run out e34 3.8 LE in what I think they called Rosso.

Rosso with champagne leather or Orinoco green with mint green leather.

Good shout!

And Nurburgring Suspension
Was that standard or an option ?

Only 50 LEs were produced I think ?

The proper Genuine BMW Parts dampers cost about £1k each
A few people in the BMWCC have them really nice ones .... One guy has two I think

[pony]

+1!

If you want an E60, get an Alpina B5/B5S or a manual 550i.

why are they a time bomb? and they do 19mpg combined

Because when the big oily bits go wrong - and they surely will if the car is driven as intended - the repairs will cost as much as the car is worth. It's an amazing bit of engineering, but unlike the Italian exotica, the M5's will not be worth enough to repair - and you can forget DIY fixes. They will be down to £6000 in 2 years time.

Ok but the million dollar question could a Ferrari of the same vintage as a BMW E60 M5 .... Take the miles as well ?

Would it need more or less servicing ?
More or less reliable ?
And on paper maybe Ferrari is faster .... But .... In the real world which is faster ?

When the yobbos get hold of the E60 M5 and if goes wrong probably scrap it as I guess most people would except the diehard ....

[B7]

Here you go.






Having owned a few e39's now I'm not sure i'd entertain an M5 version over one of the above. The e34 were the last of the properly built BMs and despite all the later engineering, these are still a serious weapon!

[pony]

Last of the NA inline 6 M5s
Last of the hand built Ms
I imagine be slow by modern sports car standards but still respectable
That interior looks OPULENT

Btw doesn't have a proper steering wheel ?

[B7]

They are by no means slow!!! I think 5.6 secs to 60?

The steering wheel is unfortunate as this was the time when airbags came in and it appears BMW couldn't design a nice one. Small price to pay though IMO.

[pony]

They are by no means slow!!! I think 5.6 secs to 60?

The steering wheel is unfortunate as this was the time when airbags came in and it appears BMW couldn't design a nice one. Small price to pay though IMO.

I have seen M and N reg 5 Series with the nice sports 3 spoke steering wheel and a M5 LE with one so maybe they did come with one ?

PS I always thought that if a car can do 0-62 in under 5 seconds then it is quick well I did in 2001 ....

[alpina123]

e12 for me

No such thing as an E12 M5.

There is as my dad had one just because people say its badged as an m535 does not mean that it isnt an m5

[pacerpete]

e12 for me

No such thing as an E12 M5.

There is as my dad had one just because people say its badged as an m535 does not mean that it isnt an m5

Sorry, you and your dad are wrong.

[suchy]

e12 for me

No such thing as an E12 M5.

There is as my dad had one just because people say its badged as an m535 does not mean that it isnt an m5

Yes it does

[B7]

No such thing as an E12 M5.

There is as my dad had one just because people say its badged as an m535 does not mean that it isnt an m5

Sorry, you and your dad are wrong.

What you're dad had was as you say, an M535i. Which was a 535 with m tech suspension and trim. It still had the M30 standard 3.5 engine. It was not until the e28 M5 when it got the 24valve motorsport engine that the first real M5 was created.

Many say and believe it was the first mass produced M series car but it was never an M5.

[bss325i]

Many people also say that the m5 was the first exclusive saloon with sports car performance.

It wasn't.

That will be the E12 Alpina B7 turbo from 1978 which incidentally was one of three models that Alpina launched in 1978 as complete cars that were not kit of parts conversions that previous Alpinas were.

The other two models launched in 1978 were the E24 Alpina B6 turbo and the E21 Alpina B6 2.8.

In fact Alpina also had a had a lot of input in what became the first car developed by BMW Motorsport, that was the E9 CSL.

[suchy]

In fact Alpina also had a had a lot of input in what became the first car developed by BMW Motorsport, that was the E9 CSL.

Pass the tissues please...
One of my favorites

[gman1]

From my experence..i test drove the 2007 e?..5.0 v10,A TOTAL BEAST..

[bss325i]

From my experience I have driven several E60 m5's and e63/4 M6's and IMO they are blighted by the SMG gear box.

Fast, yes.

Annoying, very!

Who's going to be the first to convert one to manual in the uk?

[Dan320is]

For me, it would have to be an E34 Touring in Avus blue with extended leather. I've seen them on M parallels but I prefer throwing stars with the turbine covers.

[pacerpete]

Many people also say that the m5 was the first exclusive saloon with sports car performance.

It wasn't.

That will be the E12 Alpina B7 turbo from 1978 which incidentally was one of three models that Alpina launched in 1978 as complete cars that were not kit of parts conversions that previous Alpinas were.

The other two models launched in 1978 were the E24 Alpina B6 turbo and the E21 Alpina B6 2.8.

In fact Alpina also had a had a lot of input in what became the first car developed by BMW Motorsport, that was the E9 CSL.

The Mercedes 300sel 6.3 of 1968 beat the B7 turbo to the title by 10 years

[bss325i]

Many people also say that the m5 was the first exclusive saloon with sports car performance.

It wasn't.

That will be the E12 Alpina B7 turbo from 1978 which incidentally was one of three models that Alpina launched in 1978 as complete cars that were not kit of parts conversions that previous Alpinas were.

The other two models launched in 1978 were the E24 Alpina B6 turbo and the E21 Alpina B6 2.8.

In fact Alpina also had a had a lot of input in what became the first car developed by BMW Motorsport, that was the E9 CSL.

The Mercedes 300sel 6.3 of 1968 beat the B7 turbo to the title by 10 years

Yeah, that had sports car performance till it got to the first bend!

If you want to be pedantic, although not an "executive" saloon, the Lotus Cortina beat the Merc by 5 years.

[pacerpete]

Many people also say that the m5 was the first exclusive saloon with sports car performance.

It wasn't.

That will be the E12 Alpina B7 turbo from 1978 which incidentally was one of three models that Alpina launched in 1978 as complete cars that were not kit of parts conversions that previous Alpinas were.

The other two models launched in 1978 were the E24 Alpina B6 turbo and the E21 Alpina B6 2.8.

In fact Alpina also had a had a lot of input in what became the first car developed by BMW Motorsport, that was the E9 CSL.

The Mercedes 300sel 6.3 of 1968 beat the B7 turbo to the title by 10 years

Yeah, that had sports car performance till it got to the first bend!

If you want to be pedantic, although not an "executive" saloon, the Lotus Cortina beat the Merc by 5 years.

Sorry, 0-60 in 10 seconds is hardly sports car performance, unless your idea of a sports car is a MGB !

Actually the 6.3 was quite a weapon in its day AND it went around corners and stopped, unlike many 'supercars ' of the era.

[pony]

The Lotus Carlton developed by the might of Lotus is the ORIGINAL gran daddy of mega performance and it can still keep a E39 M5 very very honest unlike the earlier M5s

At the guy that said the E12 M535i is an M5 ? Sorry it is not as it did not have a bespoke M engine .... However, I can see how us easy to get confused with BMW naming .... The M635CSi is the original 'M6' but has a similar naming convention ....

[suchy]

Lotus Carlton- now there's a weapon

[pacerpete]

The Lotus Carlton developed by the might of Lotus is the ORIGINAL gran daddy of mega performance and it can still keep a E39 M5 very very honest unlike the earlier M5s

At the guy that said the E12 M535i is an M5 ? Sorry it is not as it did not have a bespoke M engine .... However, I can see how us easy to get confused with BMW naming .... The M635CSi is the original 'M6' but has a similar naming convention ....

Soni, there were lots of fast 4 door turds long before the Carlton came along.

The Carlton was undoubtably a very serious thing, in between meltdowns, but there is an overriding stench of council about it.

A gentleman in a hurry would always choose a B10 Biturbo

[pony]

Lotus Carlton- now there's a weapon

It looks like a plain old Vauxhall but only the true petrol head knows THE BEAST that it is

[capri_rob]

Lotus Carlton- now there's a weapon

It looks like a plain old Vauxhall

Maybe from about half a mile away

[bss325i]

A gentleman in a hurry would always choose a B10 Biturbo

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