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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:26 pm

Is there such a thing, or is it a kit on a standard model or SE? The wiki seems to suggest that only 2 door models are genuine.

Any Tech 1 or 2 experts online????
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:28 pm

No such thing as a 4dr sport.
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:29 pm

325i sport is 2 door only, and black headlining also being another sport only factor
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:29 pm

if you do find one it will be from b/ham!
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:30 pm

Cheers guys, just trying to educate myself for the purchase when the right car comes along.

What's the story on the sunroof, was that fitted to all Sports, or an option extra?
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:32 pm

A true sport will only have 2 doors, and have a "S" suffix on the BMW build sheet. However all the option boxes could be ticked for a 4 door, so it would be sport spec, but not a sport.

This is the simple answer.
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:40 pm

magpie wrote:if you do find one it will be from b/ham!
Fook off!! there's more crap coming from your neck of the woods nowadays. :wink:
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:45 pm

So you could have an SE or Standard model, that has had all the sport equipment fitted, but it's not a "Sport" because the paperwork says so. Is that right?

I suppose in an ideal world I'd go for a moredoor cos of the kids, but I (like loads of others) like the Sport look when unmodified.
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Won't be the first time that I'm looking for something that doesn't exist.... :mad:
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:47 pm

And even some that are not genuine Sports have had the V5 changed to show Sport. Check the numbers with BMW is the only true way to know.
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:20 pm

batleyrhino wrote:So you could have an SE or Standard model, that has had all the sport equipment fitted, but it's not a "Sport" because the paperwork says so. Is that right?
and the black headlining,i dont think you could order that

someone more qualified would know...but could you get a sport kit factory fitted to a moredoor ? , or are tech 1 side skirts say different or would they fit ?

an se model came with its own se spec, and se side skirts

then theres the sports seats, steering wheel, gear knob, suspension all thrown in,the lsd and other bits

the thing what causes more of this/general argument , is just the fact a 325i and a 325i sport had the same engine, but the sport had lots more other stuff but same engine still, sort doesnt mean extra power, but extra kit and overall styling
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:45 pm

batleyrhino wrote:Cheers guys, just trying to educate myself for the purchase when the right car comes along.

What's the story on the sunroof, was that fitted to all Sports, or an option extra?
Sports with no sunroof do exist, they also have black head linings as standard.
As has been stated, the only true way of finding out if it is a genuine sport or not is to phone the dealers with the VIN
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:01 pm

polsta wrote: the thing what causes more of this/general argument , is just the fact a 325i and a 325i sport had the same engine, but the sport had lots more other stuff but same engine still, sort doesnt mean extra power, but extra kit and overall styling
No extra power but the gear ratio's were closer.
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:06 pm

polsta wrote:
batleyrhino wrote:So you could have an SE or Standard model, that has had all the sport equipment fitted, but it's not a "Sport" because the paperwork says so. Is that right?
and the black headlining,i dont think you could order that

someone more qualified would know...but could you get a sport kit factory fitted to a moredoor ? , or are tech 1 side skirts say different or would they fit ?

an se model came with its own se spec, and se side skirts

then theres the sports seats, steering wheel, gear knob, suspension all thrown in,the lsd and other bits

the thing what causes more of this/general argument , is just the fact a 325i and a 325i sport had the same engine, but the sport had lots more other stuff but same engine still, sort doesnt mean extra power, but extra kit and overall styling
If you walked into a BMW showroom in 1988 to order your 316 and said you wanted a black headlining and money no object they would have been more than happy to oblige

You can also get the Sport bodykit in 4 door flavour ( Tech 2 anyway not sure about Tech 1 )
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:14 pm

but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:18 pm

polsta wrote:but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
yes, lots of 318IS owners :D
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:22 pm

polsta wrote:but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
This is a good point, iS's had them, diddlers more door is probably the highest specced car I know of but im sure that has a beige head lining
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:28 pm

Rav335uk wrote:
magpie wrote:if you do find one it will be from b/ham!
Fook off!! there's more crap coming from your neck of the woods nowadays. :wink:
where ?

you brum bumboys invented the moredoor sport,

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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:33 pm

DanThe wrote:
polsta wrote:but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
This is a good point, iS's had them, diddlers more door is probably the highest specced car I know of but im sure that has a beige head lining
despite diddlers creamy headlining it's still known as a brummie moredoor sport :D
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Post Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:45 pm

e30topless wrote:
DanThe wrote:
polsta wrote:but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
This is a good point, iS's had them, diddlers more door is probably the highest specced car I know of but im sure that has a beige head lining
despite diddlers creamy headlining it's still known as a brummie moredoor sport :D
indeed and proud of it :D

Was in the garage today licking it ermmmmmmmmm
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:22 am

e30topless wrote:
polsta wrote:but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
yes, lots of 318IS owners :D
yeah but pov spec types, and pre facelift/early e30s, 316,318, 320i,moredoors etc, with black..but backed up with it on the factory build sheet
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:50 am

the black headliner could well of been an option .

i feel sorry for the lesser 'IS' owner group that have the cream headliner...you was robbed if your rocking laser blue or own a bogo alpine white variant .

any more 'is' owners that don't have a black headliner ....raise one hand and bow!
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:33 am

polsta wrote:but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
My car's got a black headlining, and they definitely didn't make a Sport Touring!
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:15 am

keith bass boys car was a 4 door had all sport bits fitted from factory and even had sport on the log book and yes black headlining
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:21 am

Further Sport trumpet blowing by Sport owners, where's Jim? :D

Everything on a Sport could be ordered for any 325i, or any other model it would fit. Everyone seems to forgets the Sport is just a BMW UK invention to make a more exclusive model to shirt more cars with a higher spec & make more money. If you went and ordered a car on the continent or straight from BMW you'd have to tick all the boxes yourself, on the continent they have no idea what we're talking about when you mention Sports..

Tech 1 sideskirts fit moredoors fine.
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:39 am

gaszman wrote:keith bass boys car was a 4 door had all sport bits fitted from factory and even had sport on the log book and yes black headlining
this one
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:40 am

Kedge wrote:Further Sport trumpet blowing by Sport owners, where's Jim? :D

Everything on a Sport could be ordered for any 325i, or any other model it would fit. Everyone seems to forgets the Sport is just a BMW UK invention to make a more exclusive model to shirt more cars with a higher spec & make more money. If you went and ordered a car on the continent or straight from BMW you'd have to tick all the boxes yourself, on the continent they have no idea what we're talking about when you mention Sports..

Tech 1 sideskirts fit moredoors fine.
No no, sports were sold all over the world. Here is the german version.

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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:07 am

maggspower wrote:
Kedge wrote:Further Sport trumpet blowing by Sport owners, where's Jim? :D

Everything on a Sport could be ordered for any 325i, or any other model it would fit. Everyone seems to forgets the Sport is just a BMW UK invention to make a more exclusive model to shirt more cars with a higher spec & make more money. If you went and ordered a car on the continent or straight from BMW you'd have to tick all the boxes yourself, on the continent they have no idea what we're talking about when you mention Sports..

Tech 1 sideskirts fit moredoors fine.
No no, sports were sold all over the world. Here is the german version.

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There are zoners on here with genuine Jap spec and Australian spec sports!

A common myth that the 325i sport is a uk only car.

Black headlining on uk spec cars were only factory fit as standard on 325i sports, M3's and 318iS's with Anthracite trim or black leather.

Black headlinng was NEVER an option in uk brochures and price lists.

In europe, Black headlining was part of the M technic sport packet which the car in the above pic has.

The Models in Europe that had standard factory fit black headlining were 2dr 320iS's, M3's and cars with the M technic sport packet option.

There was a limited edition design touring (similar spec to the neon blue and green design cabrios) which had a factory black headlining.
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:10 am

No no, sports were sold all over the world. Here is the german version.

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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:12 am

Ahhhh right, fair enough. :o:
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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:20 pm

polsta wrote:but are there any around ? ie is there anyone on here/ever had/ever known, a non sport with a factory black headlining ?
Yes a tech 1 kitted alpine white 325 4 door that was broken in my fair town a few years back, was offered it for 200 as a complete running car but was due back to sea the next day and had no options for storage...

It was a hanging shitbox though

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Post Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:30 pm

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