bbc story on newer beemers being nicked

[randomspeedfreak]

hows this work then!? ha

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19562487

[Morat]

This is the OBD2 port scam isn't it?

[pacerpete]

The one inside the car I believe its only up to the 2011 model on the X5 and X6 I think.

All models are affected but the vermin are (unsuprisingly) particularly interested in specced up X5s and X6s . Many of the turds are being chopped up and sent off to eastern Europe as parts . Some are going complete to the far east and Africa. This is a MUCH bigger problem than anybody is letting on. Insurance companies and BMW have been burying their heads in the sand pretending it is not an issue. How long before insurance companies start hitting BMW premiums ?

[Morat]

I would imagine that depends on how many lunches BMW are paying for at Directline at the moment...

[pony]

The one inside the car I believe its only up to the 2011 model on the X5 and X6 I think.

All models are affected but the vermin are (unsuprisingly) particularly interested in specced up X5s and X6s . Many of the turds are being chopped up and sent off to eastern Europe as parts . Some are going complete to the far east and Africa. This is a MUCH bigger problem than anybody is letting on. Insurance companies and BMW have been burying their heads in the sand pretending it is not an issue. How long before insurance companies start hitting BMW premiums ?

Will this affect E46 M3s ?

Someone who lives near me had their E93 M3 stolen. The one you saw Peter.
Subsequently, recovered and put back together. VRM has now changed slightly SYG changed to SGY presumably changed to help avoid being detected it has been stolen. Owner now has a steering lock and does not always park in same spot.

[pacerpete]

The one inside the car I believe its only up to the 2011 model on the X5 and X6 I think.

All models are affected but the vermin are (unsuprisingly) particularly interested in specced up X5s and X6s . Many of the turds are being chopped up and sent off to eastern Europe as parts . Some are going complete to the far east and Africa. This is a MUCH bigger problem than anybody is letting on. Insurance companies and BMW have been burying their heads in the sand pretending it is not an issue. How long before insurance companies start hitting BMW premiums ?

Will this affect E46 M3s ?

Someone who lives near me had their E93 M3 stolen. The one you saw Peter.
Subsequently, recovered and put back together. VRM has now changed slightly SYG changed to SGY presumably changed to help avoid being detected it has been stolen. Owner now has a steering lock and does not always park in same spot.

They are only interested in late valuable stuff Soni, not old sh1tters, your turd is safe !

I believe it is 2006 onwards tackle that is susceptible to this type of theft. The E46 theft usually involves a burglary or a beating/ shooting at the side of the road !

[pony]

All models are affected but the vermin are (unsuprisingly) particularly interested in specced up X5s and X6s . Many of the turds are being chopped up and sent off to eastern Europe as parts . Some are going complete to the far east and Africa. This is a MUCH bigger problem than anybody is letting on. Insurance companies and BMW have been burying their heads in the sand pretending it is not an issue. How long before insurance companies start hitting BMW premiums ?

Will this affect E46 M3s ?

Someone who lives near me had their E93 M3 stolen. The one you saw Peter.
Subsequently, recovered and put back together. VRM has now changed slightly SYG changed to SGY presumably changed to help avoid being detected it has been stolen. Owner now has a steering lock and does not always park in same spot.

They are only interested in late valuable stuff Soni, not old sh1tters, your turd is safe !

I believe it is 2006 onwards tackle that is susceptible to this type of theft. The E46 theft usually involves a burglary or a beating/ shooting at the side of the road !

Cheeky oi

Mine is 2006. Remember the E46 M3 was produced up until May 2006 for Coupe and CS. Though mine is very late registered possibly the latest registered one in the country.

The E92 came out in 2007.

Can they not do any of this reprogramming on E46s then surely ?

Presumably beating up the owner, burglary they can nick any car.

I am too scared to leave the M3 in any remotely dodgy / poor / near any council estates and do not like leaving on any streets or near any closely parked cars if I can help it.

[bss325i]

Soni, it only effects cars with a slot key and a CAS. Your car has a mechanical steering lock and key barrel so they would have break the lock or get your keys.

The reason why these cars are easy to steel is thanks to European legislation making the CAS accessible to third parties and nothing to do with the technology being poor.

The is now a recall in place to reprogram the CAS to stop new keys being able to be programmed by third parties.

[suchy]

How long before insurance companies start hitting BMW premiums ?

Doubt it will be long! I doubt very much it will be for later ones only, as the bloodsucking bast*rds will use any excuse

[pony]

Soni, it only effects cars with a slot key and a CAS. Your car has a mechanical steering lock and key barrel so they would have break the lock or get your keys.

The reason why these cars are easy to steel is thanks to European legislation making the CAS accessible to third parties and nothing to do with the technology being poor.

The is now a recall in place to reprogram the CAS to stop new keys being able to be programmed by third parties.

Nice thanks for that

However, I don't really like leaving it on a street overnight if I can help it .... Just to be on the safe side. So far has only ever been left on a street overnight twice. First time when I bought the car .... But I woke up at 4am .... As I had a dream it was stolen .... So went to check it .... Then another a few weeks ago .... But instead of parking in Shepherds Bush .... I made sure to park it in Holland Park and walk an extra 5 minutes

[alpina123]

^^^ what car do you have?

[pacerpete]

Soni, it only effects cars with a slot key and a CAS. Your car has a mechanical steering lock and key barrel so they would have break the lock or get your keys.

The reason why these cars are easy to steel is thanks to European legislation making the CAS accessible to third parties and nothing to do with the technology being poor.

The is now a recall in place to reprogram the CAS to stop new keys being able to be programmed by third parties.

Barry, you really need to stop sucking off the MD, or at least spit instead of swallowing !

The technology IS crap that is why the thieves have specifically targeted BMWs. That and the fact that late ones are the eastern european meatheads chariot of choice

[pony]

Soni, it only effects cars with a slot key and a CAS. Your car has a mechanical steering lock and key barrel so they would have break the lock or get your keys.

The reason why these cars are easy to steel is thanks to European legislation making the CAS accessible to third parties and nothing to do with the technology being poor.

The is now a recall in place to reprogram the CAS to stop new keys being able to be programmed by third parties.

Barry, you really need to stop sucking off the MD, or at least spit instead of swallowing !

The technology IS crap that is why the thieves have specifically targeted BMWs. That and the fact that late ones are the eastern european meatheads chariot of choice

But why are they not stealing Mercedes-Benz AMGs or Audi RS or Porsche 911s .... ?

[pony]

^^^ what car do you have?

M3

[bss325i]

Soni, it only effects cars with a slot key and a CAS. Your car has a mechanical steering lock and key barrel so they would have break the lock or get your keys.

The reason why these cars are easy to steel is thanks to European legislation making the CAS accessible to third parties and nothing to do with the technology being poor.

The is now a recall in place to reprogram the CAS to stop new keys being able to be programmed by third parties.

Barry, you really need to stop sucking off the MD, or at least spit instead of swallowing !

The technology IS crap that is why the thieves have specifically targeted BMWs. That and the fact that late ones are the eastern european meatheads chariot of choice

Pete, if you read my post properly you will see that i said it is due to european legislation that the CAS is made accessible to people other than BMW ie third parties.

IF the eurocrats didnt stick their oar in the NO ONE but bmw would be able to access the CAS.

Yay for block exemption!

What IS stupid is the location of the diagnostic socket which on RHD cars is in a black spot not picked up by the alarms interior movement sensor.

Interestingly my mate who is an armed copper, mum's year old focus ST was stolen last night, broke into the house to get the keys!

[pacerpete]

I read your post properly Barry and you clearly blamed EU legislation NOT BMWs less than perfect vehicle security . The same legislation that every other manufacturer has to adhere to .

Any car can be stolen if the thief is determined enough but because BMWs are so easy the scummers are not going to risk their necks on other equally desireable tackle when there are so many easy BMWs to be had

[pony]

Mind you if you count the number of BMW Ms compared to Mercedes-Benz AMGs or Audi RSs .... The Ms are produced in far larger quantities I believe ?

Maybe whoever they are stolen for have particularly want a BMW ?

I wonder If u leave a E30 325i near a council estate is there a high chance of it getting nicked ?

[Andyboy]

I read your post properly Barry and you clearly blamed EU legislation NOT BMWs less than perfect vehicle security . The same legislation that every other manufacturer has to adhere to .

Any car can be stolen if the thief is determined enough but because BMWs are so easy the scummers are not going to risk their necks on other equally desireable tackle when there are so many easy BMWs to be had

Watch out for black E60's!

[Ajsingh]

The programming disables the OBD port while the alarm system is active, thus making the CAS unable to being read by third parties.

Well, after reading the quality enhancement thats the conclusion i came up with lol