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G-Bear
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:21 pm
Not sure if this has already done the rounds.. But I popped into Euro Car Parts this morning in Watford and noticed a full assembly of Bilstein suspension under the counter..
They gave me a quote of £101 per front strut/insert and £78 for the rear shock plus VAT. All together being £429.60 including VAT. They were B8's for a 325i Touring.
He said that was the cheapest he could do but I'm sure Meatballs on here could shave a bit more off..
Just thought I'd share

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DanThe
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:32 pm
Great stuff, its about time, bloody good prices too

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:32 pm
Lets just hope they come complete with the cap nuts this time!
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:11 pm
Also known as collars? I was going to ask but was in a rush. I may have to pop in there tomorrow. If so I'll ask and report back.
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:00 pm
G-Bear wrote:Also known as collars? I was going to ask but was in a rush. I may have to pop in there tomorrow. If so I'll ask and report back.
The Bilstein news seems to be true, I heard about it first on this thread though! Will do some homework and find out what the score is for you all.
I have H&R collars in stock, £10 each inc vat
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:28 pm
If this is the case, then great. No more dealing with those utter morons at Bilstein UK!
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:30 pm
alternatively i have a complete set of h&rs and bilsteins for sale for half the price!

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:37 pm
Good news, maybe get us a full list of them with prices for us Matt. I'll be needing some b6 fronts soon

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:16 pm
And measure the B6 and B8 for length so we can stop the endless waffle about which ones are for lowered cars and which are for slammed ones

please?

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:42 pm
rich318i wrote:B8 for lower 100%
Nope
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:45 pm
Had to find this through google, looks like Mr 13 has deleted it from his account
Top is a standard 51mm strut damper (not showing true length) , middle is a B6 and bottom is a B8
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:58 pm
Bilstein website must be wrong then
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:24 am
Sorry Morat, as much as you wanted to end it, you have inadvertently started the subject again. So I just wanted to squeeze this in..
I'm sure these sorts of questions have fired around in the passed on this mass debate.. The yellow part of the B8 is shorter than the other two. I might be showing my ignorance here, but could it not be that the B8 overall compresses shorter once under the load of the car.
As rich318i said it is stated on their website that the B8 is better suited for lower springs.
Hopefully Meatballs82 can get some info off Bilstein..
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:55 am
G-Bear wrote:
As rich318i said it is stated on their website that the B8 is better suited for lower springs.
Hopefully Meatballs82 can get some info off Bilstein..
The Bilstein site is wrong, I know this from personal experience of buying and fitting both types of dampers, as will anybody else thats bought them.
Try to fit a -60 spring with a B8 and it will be loose at full extension of the damper
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:44 am
DanThe wrote:G-Bear wrote:
As rich318i said it is stated on their website that the B8 is better suited for lower springs.
Hopefully Meatballs82 can get some info off Bilstein..
The Bilstein site is wrong, I know this from personal experience of buying and fitting both types of dampers, as will anybody else thats bought them.
Try to fit a -60 spring with a B8 and it will be loose at full extension of the damper
We threw out all our literature when we stopped selling Bilstein last year, will find out the details next week and get some prices posted up, there's not alot of margin in them so may not be able to offer the usual zone discount %
Unless someone said group buy?!

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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:41 am
DanThe wrote:G-Bear wrote:
As rich318i said it is stated on their website that the B8 is better suited for lower springs.
Hopefully Meatballs82 can get some info off Bilstein..
The Bilstein site is wrong, I know this from personal experience of buying and fitting both types of dampers, as will anybody else thats bought them.
Try to fit a -60 spring with a B8 and it will be loose at full extension of the damper
I'm with danthe...
Although I haven't fitted them myself, my B8s came with eibach 35mm springs.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:44 am
Morat wrote:DanThe wrote:G-Bear wrote:
As rich318i said it is stated on their website that the B8 is better suited for lower springs.
Hopefully Meatballs82 can get some info off Bilstein..
The Bilstein site is wrong, I know this from personal experience of buying and fitting both types of dampers, as will anybody else thats bought them.
Try to fit a -60 spring with a B8 and it will be loose at full extension of the damper
I'm with danthe...
Although I haven't fitted them myself, my B8s came with eibach 35mm springs.
Cheers danthe.. A physical experience ties it up for me
So... a touch off topic but its my thread.. Would B8's be the best option for eibach pro's (35mm)? over B6's..
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:13 pm
Matt, does this mean you'll be stocking a full range of Bilstein stuff, anything available for my Golf?
G-Bear wrote:
So... a touch off topic but its my thread.. Would B8's be the best option for eibach pro's (35mm)? over B6's..
Yup, that's what I have fitted to my car.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:40 pm
Kedge wrote:Matt, does this mean you'll be stocking a full range of Bilstein stuff, anything available for my Golf?
G-Bear wrote:
So... a touch off topic but its my thread.. Would B8's be the best option for eibach pro's (35mm)? over B6's..
Yup, that's what I have fitted to my car.
Hope so, I especially enjoy taking money off you!

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Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:18 pm
G-Bear wrote:So... a touch off topic but its my thread.. Would B8's be the best option for eibach pro's (35mm)? over B6's..
That's exactly what Bilstein supply in their B12 kit.
B8's and eibach 35mm pro kit springs.
I have them on my car and have fitted them to several customers cars.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:43 pm
bss325i wrote:G-Bear wrote:So... a touch off topic but its my thread.. Would B8's be the best option for eibach pro's (35mm)? over B6's..
That's exactly what Bilstein supply in their B12 kit.
B8's and eibach 35mm pro kit springs.
I have them on my car and have fitted them to several customers cars.
Any idea's why they dont use H&R springs?
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:48 pm
rich318i wrote:bss325i wrote:G-Bear wrote:So... a touch off topic but its my thread.. Would B8's be the best option for eibach pro's (35mm)? over B6's..
That's exactly what Bilstein supply in their B12 kit.
B8's and eibach 35mm pro kit springs.
I have them on my car and have fitted them to several customers cars.
Any idea's why they dont use H&R springs?
Because they consider the Eiback springs to be better

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Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:49 pm
Kedge wrote:rich318i wrote:bss325i wrote:
That's exactly what Bilstein supply in their B12 kit.
B8's and eibach 35mm pro kit springs.
I have them on my car and have fitted them to several customers cars.
Any idea's why they dont use H&R springs?
Because they consider the Eiback springs to be better

By the same merit there isn't anything wrong with H&R springs IMO
How do you pronounce 'either'? I say 'either', but some say 'either'. Either is correct.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:56 pm
Duke137 wrote:Kedge wrote:rich318i wrote:
Any idea's why they dont use H&R springs?
Because they consider the Eiback springs to be better

By the same merit there isn't anything wrong with H&R springs IMO
It's all down to personal preference really. I think I've read in the past the H&Rs have a harder ride than the Eibachs. Might even be a simple case that Bilstein get the Eibachs cheaper than H&R supply them.
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:11 pm
DanThe wrote:Had to find this through google, looks like Mr 13 has deleted it from his account
Top is a standard 51mm strut damper (not showing true length) , middle is a B6 and bottom is a B8
you got the B6 and B8 the wrong way round dan
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:07 pm
rich318i wrote:DanThe wrote:Had to find this through google, looks like Mr 13 has deleted it from his account
Top is a standard 51mm strut damper (not showing true length) , middle is a B6 and bottom is a B8
you got the B6 and B8 the wrong way round dan
No I havnt

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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:15 pm
DanThe wrote:rich318i wrote:DanThe wrote:Had to find this through google, looks like Mr 13 has deleted it from his account
Top is a standard 51mm strut damper (not showing true length) , middle is a B6 and bottom is a B8
you got the B6 and B8 the wrong way round dan
No I havnt

sorry mate but here it is
http://www.bilstein.de/uploads/tx_templ ... _b8_en.pdf
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:19 pm
Have you not been reading the thread at all?? This is a known mistake in the Bilstein litrature! Dan has already explained he's owned both shocks and found that to be the case. Also most zoners (inc myself) run the B8s with only a small drop as they're approx the same length as standard shocks!
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:27 pm
every web racing website over the world must be wrong also... thats called mis-selling and would be a big thing!! never mind them being a DTM player. think they would get their website right. Even ECP have better website then if that the case
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:49 pm
If your that adamant im wrong then have a drive over, bring me some beers, and I will show you the boxes the dampers came in with part numbers and everything, but im not about to dig them out of the loft and take pictures just because someone on the internet thinks im wrong.
Im guessing you have never had B8 or B6 dampers for an E30..
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:54 pm
i was under the impression that the B8 was the shorter 45mm one

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Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:58 pm
DanThe wrote:If your that adamant im wrong then have a drive over, bring me some beers, and I will show you the boxes the dampers came in with part numbers and everything, but im not about to dig them out of the loft and take pictures just because someone on the internet thinks im wrong.
Im guessing you have never had B8 or B6 dampers for an E30..
but as it all says.. websites that sell them, B8's are shorter at the top for the 40mm and shorter lowering springs
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:43 pm
rich318i your not going to let this one slide, eh. I think you best take some beers over to danthe's and meet him in the loft.
Kedge wrote:Duke137 wrote:Kedge wrote:
Because they consider the Eiback springs to be better

By the same merit there isn't anything wrong with H&R springs IMO
It's all down to personal preference really. I think I've read in the past the H&Rs have a harder ride than the Eibachs. Might even be a simple case that Bilstein get the Eibachs cheaper than H&R supply them.
I read a few times too that H&R are said to be stiffer springs..