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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:02 pm

rich318i wrote:1k in total there mate for that upgrade, thats if you go for billy shock's B6 too
Yeah I know, I've looked into it before (thanks for the heads up mind), possibly B8's..
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:13 pm

B6's are nice with good springs. but nasty with low profile rims in london driving
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:21 pm

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G-Bear wrote: No.. just enjoying the extra torque from the engine on its own at the moment..
great. once you get round to getting a slipper you'll notice how much it better the drive is.
Definitely, I think most of the bushes could do with being replaced, and perhaps slightly stiffer on suspension, then an LSD may be on the cards... :)
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:24 pm

Yep speed bumps are something I have to factor in.. at the moment its a pleasure driving it standard (bumps wise). Its a bit boat like when pushed hard, but overall its pretty tight. (sorry to the OP for going off topic/highjack, I'll stop after this..) I thought B6 and B8's where the same for stiffness yet the B8's where better for lower springs.. I would probably go for Eibach Pro's.. all on 15 BBS with normal profile tyres..
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:36 pm

im running H&R E30 M3 spring's with 318i shocks was nice when i had my 1.8 in the car but now with the M52 now, need the B6's. as you say boaty. id love 16" BBS splits rims. JOB DONE!
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:48 pm

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Bristol_Jer wrote:An m30 engined e30 with budget tyres on in the wet with a 3.73 LSD fitted, now that is a handfull, rear tyres spinning up in 3rd without even trying :eek: Those shitty tyres didn't stay on the car for long!
S50 conversion with 4.27 diff (gearbox needs a 3.15 ish) on cheapo plastic tyres on 14" botttle tops - that was fun. Pull away in 3rd with wheelspin, spin the tyres in 5th. Tyres lasted quite well, the diff on the other hand.... :?
If you could get the grip down, acceleration must have been insane with that set-up! :thumb:
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:01 pm

had a 3.91 with mine and there was no first gear 10mph ish max at 5000rpm but was quick up to 4th but just feels like it works the gearbox to much. fun yeah but not worth it with a E36 box. got a 3.25 diff now and is nice
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:21 am

Wheelspin = less throttle.......

The v8 can be a handful in the rain even on 255s, but I get one fine with it and my silly ratio welded diff, itll light up 5th at around 80mph if your a knob, having driven plenty of 325s to must be driving like a bit of a bellend to get it swinging out all the time with an open diff..

jmc - always wanted a go in a s50, bet it ripped on that set up
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:57 am

im running H&R E30 M3 spring's with 318i shocks
you mean to tell me you have fitted an m52 conversion (or had it fitted for you) and you still run the smaller 47mm front struts.. which means you still have 318 brakes?? 8O
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:58 am

and e30 m3 springs are designed for 4 pot weight.! i know the m52 is very light for a dirty 6 but still heavier than the s14
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:13 am

M52 is actually pretty much the same weight as an S14.

You can still fit 325 brakes on 45mm struts. How do you think they managed them on the 320s?
I have 45mm struts on one of my E30s as it was originally a 320 but with better brakes, coilovers and an S54 to sit on top of them :)


E30s are pretty tail happy but unless you have silly power altogether (at least more than any S50 or anything like that) or just absolute shite tyres, I can't see how one would step out uncontrollably to the point that your getting worried and asking questions about it.


I reckon its just shite tyres really though unless your treating the throttle like a on/off switch and being silly with aggressive gear changes in the middle of corners
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:30 am

M52 is actually pretty much the same weight as an S14.
thats actually nice to know 8)
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:37 am

i am not worried nor is it uncontrollable, and yes i do have cheap shite tires, i enjoy it, just didnt expect so much rear action as said before my 5's were not as twitchy
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:40 am

more weight in a 5 though so that would help make them planted... e30's weigh fook all out back. my m52 is umm....... exciting in the wet 8O
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:58 am

Cloggy Saint wrote:Surely any rwd car is only "tail happy in the wet" if you're not driving it according to conditions. Less throttle = not tail happy :?
Exactly. My moneys on this car having cheap budget (or bald) tyres and the wrong ratio diff.

I've driven more 325's than any other and a standard car is no more tail happy than an e34 with decent tyres and the correct ratio diff.

And it's nothing to do with 14" bottle tops either. The 325 was available from new with them! Nothing to do with lack of LSD either. They were available without them from new as well.
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:09 am

Lsd would have an effect, Lack of LSD, from all 325 I have driven, would make it harder to step out as it would just do the wobbly spin the inside wheel, based on not driving to match the conditions

A 5 series has a longer wheelbase and that will make it harder to break the grip and slide
My old 5 series I used to drift you could have a sandwich inbetween each transition,
The longer the car the slower the rotation is
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Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:29 pm

My old 5 series I used to drift you could have a sandwich inbetween each transition
after seing your drift video Phil, i can picture you chewing on a sarnie while the back is just out there.. hold the sarnie in ya mouth, swing the car the other way and take another bite :lol:
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Who has heard this Phrase"Fun is not in a straight line" :?: clue to who uses it=205/45/18.
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:12 am

I had a surpise sideways moment on the way to do some overtime this morning, nothing major. First time it's happened since the first time it happened 6 months ago. And the first time was bad - really bad. My friend almost ended up 'at one' with a tree.
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Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:03 pm

i dont drift my car like a prat everywhere but i do like to hang her out there often enough to know what to do if or when she decides she wants to break free :D

prevention is much better than cure.! :cool:
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Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:07 am

Buy some good quality tyres OP ....
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