Starting problem, starter motor seems to be sticking on.

[tylert]

Right so when i start my car my starter motor sticks on... i have taken my start motor apart cleaned and put it back together i have also replaced the ignition barrel/wires and still doing it, i took a short vid, hope its helpful :/


also when that car is started the starter motor is still spinning.

anyone had this problem?

[Brianmoooore]

There are two wires connected to the starter motor that terminate in ring terminals to fit a 8mm stud (13mm nut). Where, exactly, have you connected these wires?

[tylert]

There are two wires connected to the starter motor that terminate in ring terminals to fit a 8mm stud (13mm nut). Where, exactly, have you connected these wires?

i have 4 wires all together one thats a 13 that goes from the motor to the solanoid then 2 smaller 8mm bolts and another 13mmbolt ones and i really have no idea lol
the car was fine and i havnt moved any wires i can thake a picture if that would help?

[Brianmoooore]

I know there are four wires. It's only the positions of the two large ones I'm interested in.
A clear pic. would do.

[tylert]

I know there are four wires. It's only the positions of the two large ones I'm interested in.
A clear pic. would do.

ok ill run out and take one

[tylert]

I know there are four wires. It's only the positions of the two large ones I'm interested in.
A clear pic. would do.

[Brianmoooore]

Can't make out the second large terminal in that pic., but both of them should be on the same stud; the outer one.
Almost looks like there's something metallic shorting, or almost shorting the two large studs together.

[tylert]

Can't make out the second large terminal in that pic., but both of them should be on the same stud; the outer one.
Almost looks like there's something metallic shorting, or almost shorting the two large studs together.

the 13mm bolt closest to the actual motor has just 1 wire(the wires that comes out the motor), the red wire goes to the next 13mm bolt next to the one closest to the motor
dunno if this helps at all?

[Brianmoooore]

Helps considerably, and explains why your starter motor runs when the engine does.
You've connected it wrongly when you replaced the motor - the red wire goes to the outer stud as well as the large black wire.
You have the entire output of the alternator running the starter motor in an attempt at a perpetual motion machine, instead of charging the battery (which will soon go flat.)

[tylert]

This is a intermitent problem though it does it more so then not, but it been fine since i owned the car and only just started doing it,
also when i replaced the wires they went back in the same places as they was removed, but yea it doesnt do it all the time, thats why im wondering if that is the only problem?

[tylert]

so the green and the red should be together on the larger outer bolt?

[Grrrmachine]

Yep

[tylert]

ok ill try that see what happeneds thanks so the other larger bold closest to the starter motor should have nothing on? just to double check

[Brianmoooore]

so the green and the red should be together on the larger outer bolt?

Green??????

The only thing that should be on the large inner terminal is the strap or braid to the motor itself.

[tylert]

so the green and the red should be together on the larger outer bolt?

Green??????

The only thing that should be on the large inner terminal is the strap or braid to the motor itself.

ahh :/ kk well thats on it atm, im confused on what should be on what now :/

[Grrrmachine]

im confused on what should be on what now :/

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... ter#Wiring

[tylert]

im confused on what should be on what now :/

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... ter#Wiring

Yea then in that case my starter motor is wired up fine, i still having this problem and cant solve it, any other idea would help me alot as iv just about had enough :/

[parkin10]

i did have a problem like this
it was inside the starter motor the plastic that holds the starter motors gears in place at the end of the motor
a piece of the plastic housing had broken off and wedged it self behind the starter gear that engages the ring gear so the starter gear couldnt slide along the shaft after the engine had fired up
so starter off and strip it to see if its the same fault as mine
good luck

[Rallyprep_UK]

this is so strange, surely a wiring fault ?.

No more ideas ?

[johnl320]

When I rebuilt a starter not so long ago I made the mistake of putting a small amount of grease on the solenoid cylinder this acted like a seal and once activated the plunger was on occasion held back keeping the contacts closed, the pinion engaged and the starter turning. All lubricant needs to be removed from inside the solenoid, once I had cleaned it, it was fine, just thought I would mention it

[Rallyprep_UK]

hmmm thank you

[tylert]

this is so strange, surely a wiring fault ?.

No more ideas ?

well i cant see how it is, i started like a month ago out of no where nothing touched :/

[tylert]

Hey guys tryed a new starter motor.. STILL having this problem starting to get to the point where it will be set on fire...

[tylert]

ok thank you ill try that

[tylert]

ok so after a whole night to trying to fix it again nothing still have this problem, any other ideas?

[BenHar]

What were the results when you did the test Brian suggested?

Ben

[Brianmoooore]

What were the results when you did the test Willnz suggested?

Ben

[tylert]

dont have a volt meter thingy that test is getting done on saturday, but have checked all the wirse for after market alarms etc and all relays

[BenHar]

What were the results when you did the test Willnz suggested?

Ben

Oops, sorry Brian/Will.

I'm so used to Brian helping with electrics that I just assumed it was Brian.

Ben

[tylert]

right so after all of that it would seem its the starter motor, i will be fitting a brand new one tonight thanks for all the help guys