E30 welded diff

[yung-gun]

Good news guys. i bolted the diff back up

[VW-will]

With weld inside yeah? Sweet! Lmao!

[Barx325i]

mig spatter - lubrication for hero's

[yung-gun]

mig spatter - lubrication for hero's

Couldn't have put it better myself

[DanThe]

What you on about mig barx? Everybody knows real differs use arc sticks

[yung-gun]

And i'm not gonna use diff oil. I'm gonna get some Chuck Norris Jizz!

[drew555]

Stuffz

Like I said, it's the stereotype. Like you said, we get stereotyped too.

Neither stereotype is particularly accurate, but it's how we're seen by non-understanding Johnny Public.

Like the sterotype for a welded diff - they kill kittens, rape nuns and mutilate children before they even get to the car. If you get them on to the car they WILL kill you, throw you off the road, destroy all your mountings, make you slide around like a drunk duck on a frozen pond etc etc.

That's no more accurate than saying that Zoners are all polishing perverts who cry when they have to use their car in the rain or that drifters are completely reckless dangers to themselves and anyone around them.

Sure - you have some morons frequenting the boards here, and we have some peeps who seem to be looking for a driving ban - but by the same token the fact that welding a diff can have negative effects does not make them dangerous in themselves.

If you remember it's there and drive accordingly, it'll be absolutely fine. Chuck it in like a hero and it'll step out. That's the idea.

All the hating on welded diffs is ridiculous. Adding 500 extra BHP with a nitrous system and forget it's armed and you'll do more damage on the High Street than someone attempting to park a car with a welder.

Instead of telling people they're a 'moron' or 'retarded' for welding their diff - send them over to TD for some first hand information.

We send people here when they'er looking for Beemer bits or knowledge we don't have.

The Zone used to be a valuable source of E30 info, guides and experiences. In part it still is. Now it seems to be attracting opinionated buttheads who are so busy ramming their opinions down people's throats they don't bother to check if they are right.

If I know something for a fact, I'll stand my ground - but if I'm fighting an opinion when someone asked for facts then I'll happily step down (as I did with the 'difference between legal and lawful' a bit earlier on).

It's like me telling you lot what an MTEC splitter is worth - you know better than me, so you'll tell me to jog on - and I'll accept that.

Stick to what you're good at (there's plenty), and please - don't give out advice on a subject you're not qualified in (this is aimed at those who haven't owned and run a daily with a welder. The muppet who refused to MOT a car with a welder and based his opinion on a 20 metre drive in the yard is a penis of mammoth proportions. You drove the car a very small distance, presumably in a tight-ish area and now pontificate like you're an authority on the subject? GFTO, idiot).

I think I made my point.

[scjimbo]

Stuffz

Like I said, it's the stereotype. Like you said, we get stereotyped too.

Neither stereotype is particularly accurate, but it's how we're seen by non-understanding Johnny Public.

Like the sterotype for a welded diff - they kill kittens, rape nuns and mutilate children before they even get to the car. If you get them on to the car they WILL kill you, throw you off the road, destroy all your mountings, make you slide around like a drunk duck on a frozen pond etc etc.

That's no more accurate than saying that Zoners are all polishing perverts who cry when they have to use their car in the rain or that drifters are completely reckless dangers to themselves and anyone around them.

Sure - you have some morons frequenting the boards here, and we have some peeps who seem to be looking for a driving ban - but by the same token the fact that welding a diff can have negative effects does not make them dangerous in themselves.

If you remember it's there and drive accordingly, it'll be absolutely fine. Chuck it in like a hero and it'll step out. That's the idea.

All the hating on welded diffs is ridiculous. Adding 500 extra BHP with a nitrous system and forget it's armed and you'll do more damage on the High Street than someone attempting to park a car with a welder.

Instead of telling people they're a 'moron' or 'retarded' for welding their diff - send them over to TD for some first hand information.

We send people here when they'er looking for Beemer bits or knowledge we don't have.

The Zone used to be a valuable source of E30 info, guides and experiences. In part it still is. Now it seems to be attracting opinionated buttheads who are so busy ramming their opinions down people's throats they don't bother to check if they are right.

If I know something for a fact, I'll stand my ground - but if I'm fighting an opinion when someone asked for facts then I'll happily step down (as I did with the 'difference between legal and lawful' a bit earlier on).

It's like me telling you lot what an MTEC splitter is worth - you know better than me, so you'll tell me to jog on - and I'll accept that.

Stick to what you're good at (there's plenty), and please - don't give out advice on a subject you're not qualified in (this is aimed at those who haven't owned and run a daily with a welder. The muppet who refused to MOT a car with a welder and based his opinion on a 20 metre drive in the yard is a penis of mammoth proportions. You drove the car a very small distance, presumably in a tight-ish area and now pontificate like you're an authority on the subject? GFTO, idiot).

I think I made my point.

Guys, Come on, life's too short. Lets play nice eh?

[rob0r]

Why would you fit a welded diff? To skid about like a c**k. No other reason. Do race cars have locked diffs? Proper race cars, not driftcock spec?

Some 80's Sierra touring cars ran spool diffs, the same thing in essence, a 100% locked diff.

so what happens then if mid way into a corner under power at speed with a welded diff a drive shaft snaps due to it being under so much load,with a hair line crack due to keep being twisted all the time,the car will suddenly become totaly unbalanced out of control,and no you will not catch it and bring back under conrol,at least with a lsd it will slip witch you can control both with the throttle and steering.i know some lad one local with a e30 running a 2.8+a welded diff(that keeps brakeing shafts,wonder why?)all insured as a 1.6 auto!cant wait to see that smashed up.throw the book at him.twats like that causes problems for otheirs who know how modify cars safely&corretly

The CV joint will blow before you snap a shaft, and when it happened to me mid drift it was easily catchable. This was an E21 driveshaft which are notoriously weak. I disconnected the driveshaft and one wheeled home . Next.

but as soon as you have a situation causing you to suddenly lift mid corner, that's when you realise the LSD is the tool for the job - MEANING, you can use the car to it's FULL potential on road. I'd be uber cagey threading a welder down the B roads.. Just one S bend 20mph too strong and it's ta-ta!!

You've never driven a corner hard with a welded diff have you? I can tell by the naivety in that statement. Guess what, I have! For years I went to the RAF Marham track days but recently they have banned drifting altogether, but I still took my 318is with a welder anyway and did some grip driving. It was faultless. One of my passengers had never driven with a welder before and he still raped it without consequence.





Curborough sprint track


My 325i touring with a welder on the very narrow Prescott Hill Climb



And have one at Pod for good measure


My welders are declared too

[sweep]

The touring above ..when jonh from sheffield owned it it had a welded diff in it,it locked up and nearly span the car into a on coming car,alas he came down to my yard begging for a open diff! on a daily basis things were falling of that prime example..serious bridge fodder im afraid.

Strange how none with nice clean cars fits weded diffs!?

[drew555]

Strange how none with nice clean cars fits weded diffs!?

Are you serious?

[drew555]

Guys, Come on, life's too short. Lets play nice eh?

And this is good advice.

[Gibson]

Well hopefully thats put that one to rest. Welders are legal if declared. We all know they arent as good as a £1500 Kaaz 2 way LSD but they also dont cost £1500 and the MOT guy (who i think was the guy who claimed to have a degree in mechanical engineering) is as dumb as a box of rocks. Guess what, i have a degree in mechanical engineering too and 10 years in and around the motortrade/motorsports industry and the relevant experience driving with welded diffs (which you clearly dont have) to know what the score is here. They are FINE!

Done. End of discussion. If you dont want one then feel free not to put one in your car. But stop shoving your cock/opinion down other peoples throats. Its wrong.

[sweep]

Juzt stupig.

[rob0r]

The touring above ..when jonh from sheffield owned it it had a welded diff in it,it locked up and nearly span the car into a on coming car,alas he came down to my yard begging for a open diff! on a daily basis things were falling of that prime example..serious bridge fodder im afraid.

Strange how none with nice clean cars fits weded diffs!?

The only thing to go wrong in my tenure was the engine overheated. So I put an M30 3.5 in it and as far as I know it's still going strong. When I bought it I had to rewire the wiring to the fuel pump, was that because of the welded diff?

Apart from that there was nothing else wrong with it, I owned it for near enough a year.

[yung-gun]

http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/show ... p?p=730974


Find the pic of the white skyline and read that post

"this car won the D1GB final last yr with a welded diff so..."


IMO thats a nice car with a welder.

[BATTS91]

Strange how none with nice clean cars fits weded diffs!?

Are you serious?

for real homie ? lol , vw-will his white shell was stripped and searched for rust and welding and non was found ! still had a welded diff !!!!

[snakebrain]

Done. End of discussion. If you dont want one then feel free not to put one in your car. But stop shoving your c**k/opinion down other peoples throats. Its wrong.

Now there's a man who could do with taking his own advice...

[yung-gun]

Done. End of discussion. If you dont want one then feel free not to put one in your car. But stop shoving your c**k/opinion down other peoples throats. Its wrong.

Now there's a man who could do with taking his own advice...

He didn't come on here to answer my question with "Fuckin scrap it or you'll die" infact these guys gave me a real bit of advice such as "replace the missing bolts mate and keep an eye on it for leaks"

My question wasn't should i put one on?

[DanThe]

Listen breadbins, ive never ever seen a NICE car with a welder, they are all smashed up shitters, if they are not bent, it seems its only a matter of time before they are bridge fodder

A mate of mine that rescues a few VW heaps for college types that have just got their student loans in, told me most differs he knows have never driven with an LSD, mainly because they cant afford one but they are still in denial and have an attitude that lsd's are for people that cant drive

[yung-gun]

I've driven all manner of cars. and I'm only 21! 231 bhp rx8, bmw 840ci, bmw 650ci. e93 335iM. e90 M3's fucking loads! and a 325 with a welder and i can't tell the difference!

[HairyScreech]

There's a few points floating around here that are very wrong, (although i assume im not qualified to make comment) however considering its another topic about welded differentials it would probably be better to simply say this is long past due a lock.

[Gibson]

Ive seen cars much cleaner than alot of the cars we use on here fragged for profit and scrapped. So that line just doesnt wash. Sorry. Hypocrites.

[DanThe]

Ive seen cars much cleaner than alot of the cars we use on here fragged for profit and scrapped. So that line just doesnt wash. Sorry. Hypocrites.

I totally agree, if your using cars that are long past their due then fair play to you and have some well earned fun, but trashing otherwise perfectly useable cars is just plain daft IMO, Fergs 323i Henna red car is a prime example, the oldest known E30 in survival with lots of history and some mong strips it out welds the diff and paints it matt black,,,, yeah, thats a great hobby that is

[DanThe]

I've driven all manner of cars. and I'm only 21! 231 bhp rx8, bmw 840ci, bmw 650ci. e93 335iM. e90 M3's ******* loads! and a 325 with a welder and i can't tell the difference!

M50 it then

[yung-gun]

I've driven all manner of cars. and I'm only 21! 231 bhp rx8, bmw 840ci, bmw 650ci. e93 335iM. e90 M3's ******* loads! and a 325 with a welder and i can't tell the difference!

M50 it then

and weld the diff ;)

[BATTS91]

The way forward in living with rwd , my open on m50 is doin my sweede in !

[drew555]

Fergs 323i Henna red car is a prime example, the oldest known E30 in survival with lots of history and some mong strips it out welds the diff and paints it matt black,,,, yeah, thats a great hobby that is

Both stereotypes in one post! Thank you for bearing out at least one of them ;)

Excellent.

The point is that to me Ferg's 323 sounds ideal for a donor. That'd be good with a bigger engine (323s just don't deliver like the 'proper' engines), welder (for more control on lock) and a hit with the slamming stick (even E30s are more predictable when not rolling like a Range Rover) - hey, I don't know the car, it may have had all that already.

I for one have no respect at all for the fact it is allegedly 'oldest surviving E30... IN THE WOOORLD'. Nothing makes it any more desirable or worth 'protected' status in my eyes. It's just another old Beemer - just older than the rest of it's stablemates.

Why not weld the diff, hit it with a coilover conversion and skid the hell out of it? If it's what you do, it's what you do. I'm not gonna call you out for 'preserving' it or whatever it is you're doing. Wanna make it a 'proper' track car? Rock on, it'd be cool.

We value the way a car drifts a lot more than it's 'pedigree' - it's what we use them for, so why the hell not? We're not BMW purists - they just happen to be RWD and cheap, good skidders.

His hobby is (probably, but maybe not) preservation of a legend. Making sure no-one 'vandalises' it with modifications that are not 'Zone approved'. Ensuring it has OEM oil exactly at the intervals BMW said so 25 years ago. It's too valuable to drive quickly, too rare to skid, but ideal for parking in a field and telling people how OLLLD it is. Yeah, that's a great hobby that is

E36s are getting a lot more cheap and avaliable than E30s in all honesty though, so we're using them a bit more nowadays. E30s are fast heading towards classic status - making decent ones economically unviable as cheap drift toys so hopefully when you're being welcomed into the classic car scene you'll get what you're looking for.

A massive hike in the value of the cars and parts, meets with old chaps in flat caps where you sit around lamenting the 'good old days' while comparing your OEM handbook (came with the car - FROM NEW and ALL the service stamps are from the SAME BMW garage where it was ORIGINALLY BOUGHT!!!1!!11!) while we are relegated to using more modern cars to get out hooliganistic jollies on.

Originally BMWs were built to be driven - and we drive the crap out of ours. We just do it differently. Track days get you moist, drift days make us wet. Again - horses for courses.


And back on topic a bit - someone mentioned people having not driven with a BMW LSD. I have, in a 535i sport. It was hideous. Unpredictable, one wheel smoke machine. Locked... locked... locked... DON'T WANNA LOCK NOW HAHA LOL! Welded it... sooo much better.

And again, we're of topic, nitpicking on either communities foibles in an effort to score some internet pointz. The fact remains that the information being peddled here about welded diffs is inaccurate yet being quoted as fact. All the telling us we're idiots for wrecking cars you'd sell your mum for won't change a simple fact.

As far as welded diffs are concerned - this forum as a whole does not know what they are talking about. A few seem to be sensible chaps who will listen to first hand experience and concede the point when others know better but the 'internet experts' with their over inflated egos and senses of self importance but very little actual knowledge seem to be in the majority.

In this instance, we're right, you're wrong. And we pulled you up on it. Learn from it and move on, this tripe is boring now, because it's going in circles and can only end in a slagging match - and to be honest, can anyone be bothered with that? You have cars to polish and brochures to compare and we have diffs to weld and perfectly good looking cars to ruin with matt black paint.

[DanThe]

[Brianmoooore]

Adrian flux.

I have been in touch with Adrian Flux, and they have informed me that they will NOT insure a car with a welded diff.

[yung-gun]

I love how pathetic you are. This thread was locked! so you unlock it to come in and say something like that! READ THE ORIGINAL POST! I DID NOT ASK ABOUT LEGALITIES INSURANCE OR ANY OF THAT! I ASKED FOR MECHANICAL ADVICE!

[yung-gun]

Just spoke to Sky insurance who said they cover all mods including Welded diff's currently on the phone to adrian flux!

[yung-gun]

Adrian Flux just confirmed that they DO cover welded diff's!

[drew555]

[yung-gun]

So go on mate. Lock it again!