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Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:09 pm

There has been slow, but steady progress made over the past few weeks. All the E23 threads on here embarassed me into getting on with it.

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All the external trim has been fitted. In the advert, the chap said it was complete. As I suspected, he was hallucinating. I've had to buy at least two interior trim bezels. Other than that, it was *absolutely* complete.

The door handles were indeed the predicted nightmare. Refitting the rear ones involved completely stripping out the door, glass, regulator, seals, trim etc. right down to the bare door. All four doors and two front locks plus refitting the door furniture removed by the previous owner, took pretty much two full days.

"Exactly the same as a six series", I thought, forgetting entirely about the two additional rear doors.

The hole you can see on the rear quarter is for a US style side marker light - God alone knows why, but they were fitted early in its life - and lost some time later. A couple of wanted ads elicited a response from a chap called Rich on here. Just before he replied, I checked out the ETK for the early 6 series US spec side marker - the very one. NLA, but a supercession part number was listed.

I asked Fairbairn's to check, but was told that they didn't have access to US model information, but a supercession should fit retrospectively. I ordered them and they arrived from germany, but three days later at a very reasonable £55. Unfortunately they were nothing like what I needed - way too modern - and they won't take them back because I gave them the part number and they were special order. Cheers! Back to Eastern for me from now on.

Back to Rich, who gets a very nice man in Canada to e-mail me and they should be - subject to Canada's postal system - heading across the Atlantic now.


The other lights took a wee while as some of the connectors were a bit ropey, but this old 732i Sport:-

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(sadly bought pretty much for its sport steering wheel) provided a couple of much better connectors which were soldered in place of the scotchlock butchery previously fitted. Getting everything working again took a wee while, but now all lights work - in fact everything needed for an MoT works, washers, wipers, horn, lights etc. The aircon doesn't. The headlamp wash wipe doesn't, the headlamp adjusters don't.

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All the interior trim has been refitted and in doing so - actually in looking for the first aid kit - an interesting discovery was made - electrically adjustable rear seats. - they work too. As do the C Post reading lamps in the rear and the sun blind too.

The old 732i donated its radiator, various wee clips and spring clips, some wiring, steering wheel, radio blanking panel, HT leads, windscreen trim, bits and pieces and most importantly, a test car to break things off to see how they go back on properly. This sort of thing is so much easier to do with another car that's only biding out its time nearby. I'll save what's useful - including the sport suspension - and should get what I paid for it or very close over the weighbridge.

Still needs brake hoses fitted - it has new copper lines throughout, brakes bled and the PAS leak needs fixed, and thereafter its off for a valet and MoT. A set of staggered Style 5s has been sourced and I'm hoping it'll be set to perform its first official duties at my son's graduation in mid July.

Its first venture outside under its own steam for many years saw it introduced to a typical Glasgow summer.

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Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:50 am

What a fabulous looking car. Well done on the work so far. Look forward to hearing more about this one.
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:57 am

Just don't go driving in it across USA, or that car will be nothing but trouble!
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:09 am

and i have a 745i engine tucked away if you wanted to make it something really speacial!!!
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:35 am

casper8r wrote:Just don't go driving in it across USA, or that car will be nothing but trouble!
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Quaser wrote:and i have a 745i engine tucked away if you wanted to make it something really speacial!!!
Turbo or M88? I've a spare M88 and have harboured evil 745i thoughts.
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Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:43 am

cecotto479 wrote:
casper8r wrote:Just don't go driving in it across USA, or that car will be nothing but trouble!
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Click on the bold part, it's a link ;)
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:13 am

No pictures this time, but a little more progress.

Like many elderly aristocrats, it had a bit of a problem with fluid retention. Basically it didn't retain its fluids.

Over a few days there would be an incontinent, very small, spreading pool of coolant on the garage floor. The radiator was well past its best and the 732i happily surrendered its decent (but non aircon - that'll not be working this summer anyway) radiator to the betterment of its older relative.

It's always good to replace the transmission fluid, but it's a bit of a pain so I've developed a handy shortcut.

Park the car with its nose out of the workshop, ideally over a slight downhill section. Whip out the radiator, allowing the coolant to drop and pour away out of the workshop and down the hill. Keeps the floor dry and clean.

Now here's the clever bit - before you do anything else take a phone call from a close friend discussing the recent death of his father in law, funeral arrangements, the fact that his 24 yr old daughter is on the other side of the world a 26 hour flight away, and that he's having to drive 200 miles to collect her and get back with a few hours before the funeral, oh, and that she doesn't know her grandad is dead yet. You may have to improvise a bit here depending on your circumstances, but 15 minutes with your mind firmly away from the job you're doing is required.

The next bit might be tricky for some of you too. You now need a Scottish summer rain storm. Then get into the car and drive it back into the workshop to fit the new radiator. Magically, it will pump all its transmission fluid out for you, saving you from lying underneath struggling with a drain plug. The ends of the cooler pipes placed firmly into a suitable receptacle might prevent it pissing all over the engine bay and garage floor, but I wouldn't be able to confirm that from personal knowledge. Would I?

Garage floor cleaned up. Rad installed. Trans fluid refilled. All is well in the coolant department. Its prostate problem appears to be sorted.

Now we have a PAS fluid leak to sort out. It looks very much like it's dripping from the actual steering box. Bugger. That's all I need! A steering box swap. I take a look at the box on the partially dismembered 732i and decide that I really don't fancy this, but there is so much gunk in the engine bay after the transmission fluid "change" that I think the best way is to power wash it all down and then see where the leak is coming from properly.

I get the steering box area nice and clean, refill the reservoir and start moving the wheel from side to side. Nothing. After a few minutes of working the steering and no leakage, I move the car back inside optimistically wondering if some use and movement have lubricated and resealed the dry seals caused by years of standing with no fluid in the system and might it have fixed itself.

No. As soon as I park it, there's fluid dripping out of the steering box. On to the now well lubricated garage floor. Aaaagh! I was only moving at walking pace. How come the fluid is pooling on the chassis rail ABOVE the steering box? It's not been blown there by road speed!

Bloody useless brake bomb/servo system. It's coming from the servo. I have a few servos from E24s and E28s and I'm certain they're the same, but I've an E23, but 10 yards away and I know it's working and not leaking. 20 minutes removes it. Another 45 minutes has it fitted and finally, I can park it running or not and no puddles appear underneath it.

If only my grandmother was as easy to fix.
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Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:34 pm

They can't all survive:-

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Is it still raining outside?

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Finished, washed, polished and hoovered. MoT on Monday. Side repeaters on order from strike torn Canada. Number plates, two trim bits and a touch up stick due at Fairbairn's on Saturday.

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Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:25 am

Saw this and the utterly cracking red 02 at cecottos two weeks ago and they are both really nice machines. The red 02 is especially cool.
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:04 pm

What a fine looking car that is :cool:
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:41 pm

That really does look stunning, super :cool:
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:08 am

Well, good day yesterday.

A phone call here:-

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Followed by an early trip here:-

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then here

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here again

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then a trip here:-

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Clutching

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all combined to produce this

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- its first one of these since 1995.

Celebrated with another visit here:-

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:22 am

Quality. 8)
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:40 am

I have an alternative system for E23 ownership.

1.) See one on Ebay, a mere 200 miles away. Go down on the train with £130, get there for 10pm, and ring Pacerpete from the velour cocoon of a three owner and utterly straight Y reg 732i Auto and wind him up about the period Blaupunkt New York whilst fondling it's knobs.

2.) Run it for 2 months until the torque perverter oil seal goes pop 3 miles from home. Fill the box to the brim with some 20/50 in the boot and nurse it home.

3.) Remove anything of use/value. On an E23 this normally takes about 8 minutes, but I removed the mint cylinder head, rad, cluster, unused spare wheel etc. Field calls and PM's from various dickheads who 'deffo want the headrests/wheels/exhaust/whatever".

4.) Four days later when the promised monies for bits hasn't arrived, get the '23 hitched up to a SWB Isuzu Pooper Super Trooper Duty, drag it across the scales and claim £130.
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Mon May 14, 2012 9:31 pm

Love this car, here's some recent photos...


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Mon May 14, 2012 10:44 pm

still raining also it seems! Somehow the metric BBS look better to my eyes
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:cool: :cool: Looks very clean.
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Tue May 15, 2012 8:04 am

Still raining indeed. The metrics *probably* do look slightly better, but for use - pa rticularly when it's raining the style 5s and more modern.rubber are a vast improvement.
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Tue May 15, 2012 8:14 am

metrics aren't that bad you know to quote!
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Tue May 15, 2012 9:37 am

Very true. But I've always said that metrics are brilliant if, and only if, they are new in terms of age rather than condition.

I don't have any new ones at the moment.
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Thu May 24, 2012 3:09 pm

The odd couple:-

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Thu May 24, 2012 4:30 pm

That looks very tidy Boyd.
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Thu May 24, 2012 4:53 pm

Love it. Can see that it 'needed' new wheels, but I don't think I'd have chosen those. Still sweet as, though. Leatherzz yet?
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Thu May 24, 2012 7:50 pm

No. Not yet. They appear to be far, far up the passage.

I'm open to wheel suggestions.

Not Alpinas or Hartges.
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Thu May 24, 2012 9:57 pm

The metrics look great, so I'd stick with a cross-spoke, just a more 'period' one than you've got at the mo...

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Thu May 24, 2012 10:00 pm

I think BBS RS's are the only ones which you can hold a candle to unless its one of those rare cross spoke style wheels you find in Germany.

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BBS E series I think

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Thu May 24, 2012 10:11 pm

ACT 3pc forged splits period enough for you mr morrison :D


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and yes, they are on my e24

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Thu May 24, 2012 10:16 pm

Have to say Kos, the wheels and hight look much better than when you had the Alpina's and standard height.

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Thu May 24, 2012 10:18 pm

bss325i wrote:Have to say Kos, the wheels and hight look much better than when you had the Alpina's and standard height.

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